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1 hour ago, Griever said:

 

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Shame we're not in a position that having the league's best edge rusher could put us "over the top"??

I guess we're trading Hendrickson because we don't plan to make a run deep into the post-season any time soon? Maybe there's some other guys we have at the peak of their careers that could get us even more draft picks for our rebuilding year.

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Posted
30 minutes ago, LostInDaJungle said:

Shame we're not in a position that having the league's best edge rusher could put us "over the top"??

I guess we're trading Hendrickson because we don't plan to make a run deep into the post-season any time soon? Maybe there's some other guys we have at the peak of their careers that could get us even more draft picks for our rebuilding year.

But heck...with that "bidding war" possible...just think of what can be had with that extra 2nd rounder! Why it might be only a matter of a few more seasons of Joe Burrow's window before the replacement can be up to the rarified air of 6 sacks per! 

 

And I haven't even started with what those comp picks in 2026/2027 will net. 

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4 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

If true (may not be), this seems too low

 

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Not enough. I wouldn't do it for less than a at least 1st 3rd of the 2nd round. I'd rather get the value of having him play insanely cheaply for one more year and take the 3rd round comp pick than that. Unless a significant impact player was included in the trade. 

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15 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

If true (may not be), this seems too low

 

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A late second round pick for the league's leading rusher. A pro-bowler.

If the Browns offered us Myles Garrett for our second round pick... How long would it take for you to cream your jeans? And Hendrickson (believe it or not) is better.

Absolute malpractice from the FO.

We can't even draft a Myles Murphy with a late second round pick. And knowing Katie, we'll spend that pick on a guy who had 10 sacks in his freshman year before he tore both ACL's beating his girlfriend while tripping on shrooms.

This is not a serious football team. You're buying merch for a nepo baby trust fund.

I bet all of the other Free Agent DE's are just salivating at the prospect of playing for the Bengals after this. A team that won't pay their stars and will trade you away if you're good enough. Gee, if only we also had the benefit of being in a small market with state income tax to pay...

To recap:
Sam Hubbard: Retired
Sheldon Rankins: Released
BJ Hill: Free Agent
Trey Hendrickson: Available for a high third round pick

That's last year's starting DL. Thank god we'll still have Geno Stone and Germaine Pratt to carry the defense.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, alleycat said:

It's such BS I can't even buy it. 

Even though I could actually see the Bengals taking it…I am also along the lines of “clickbait bonanza”

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26 minutes ago, alleycat said:

It's such BS I can't even buy it. 

 

Good news for you, your BS detector still works - ESPN's Jeremy Fowler claims it's a 1st round pick / strong 2nd day package:

 

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People I’ve spoken to believe Cincinnati wants either a first-round pick or a strong Day 2 package to ship Hendrickson, who will command well above $30 million per year on a new deal.

 

That's from: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44012706/2025-nfl-free-agency-tracker-live-updates-signings-trades-cuts-contracts

Posted
1 hour ago, Le Tigre said:

But heck...with that "bidding war" possible...just think of what can be had with that extra 2nd rounder! Why it might be only a matter of a few more seasons of Joe Burrow's window before the replacement can be up to the rarified air of 6 sacks per! 

 

And I haven't even started with what those comp picks in 2026/2027 will net. 

It's a little crazy hearing people say that if we "make" him play out his contract, we'll still get a 3rd round comp pick for him 2 years from now.

Like you have faith that he's good enough to rate the highest compensation tier in 2 years, but he's not worth resigning??

And then they start with the "Well, all he does is rush the passer. We should trade him and spend $8M less on Myles Garrett. He's the same age and ended last season barely able to walk! And with the money we save we can get a great DT who shall remain unnamed."

First of all... It's a small list of guys who even want to be in Cincinnati. Chase Young isn't going to take a discount rate to play here. He's going to want a premium over many other more attractive destinations. And that's true of most Free Agents. Trey actually WANTS to be here. Or he did. So the notion that instead of paying him we'll just be able to go ,out and scoop up all of the top prospects in this year's (thin) FA class... OK. So, BJ Hill and Chase Young? They didn't have 10 sacks between them last year. And I say this as a guy who likes Chase Young.

If we could rely on draft picks to replace Trey's production... We would be starting Ossai and Murphy.

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2 minutes ago, LostInDaJungle said:

Like you have faith that he's good enough to rate the highest compensation tier in 2 years, but he's not worth resigning??

This is the thing that grates me: that the “OMG he’s 30” crowd has no belief he will not be at least somewhat near high level 2-3 years from now. He is a pass rush specialist—his use isn’t the same amount as Garrett…and who wouldn’t sign Myles Save Us All Garrett?

 

All I see are the beginnings of the old Bengal fan mantra of “Don’t need him anyway”. It’s on its way, if it isn’t already here. 

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12 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:

Just what is a “strong Day 2 package”? 

 

It seems somewhat self explanatory.  Day two of the draft is the 2nd & 3rd rounds.

 

Something like high 2nd + 3rd round picks or 2 low 2nds or....   it obviously would depend on the team.

Here are some examples (not that these teams are interested)
-- NY Giants #34 (2nd round) & #65 (rd round)

-- Buffalo #56 (2nd round) & #62 (2nd round)

-- Chicago #39 or #41(2nd rounders) & #72 (3rd round)

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Thanks. It is “self-explanatory”

 

Now…what does that translate to team improvement in 2025, when trading the league-leading sack and All-Pro player? 

Posted
3 hours ago, LostInDaJungle said:



We can't even draft a Myles Murphy with a late second round pick. And knowing Katie, we'll spend that pick on a guy who had 10 sacks in his freshman year before he tore both ACL's beating his girlfriend while tripping on shrooms.
 

 

:D

 

 

I know the popular wisdom is that Mike is locked away in a bingo hall somewhere but that shit is 100% his influence.

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4 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

If true (may not be), this seems too low

 

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Yep. Higgins probably has more trade value than Hendrickson because he's younger. But Trey leads the league in sacks over the last 1 and 2 year periods. He was runner up for DPOY. Trading for him is the sort of move a team makes when they are going all-in. Teams like Washington or Chicago or NE can take advantage of their rookie deal QBs to find a difference maker.

 

He shouldn't be cheap. We're not trying to dump him here, unlike KC moving Joe Thuney or Seattle trading Geno Smith. He's got at least a couple or three good years left in him of double digit sacks. Personally I think the team should just extend him and strengthen our roster with a key building block for the defense. If they are going to trade him they should be looking for a late first round value in exchange. Some teams would prefer to draft a rookie, who will certainly be cheaper and might have as many sacks over the next 4 years as Trey. Other teams would like more of a sure thing and will spend the money to make it happen.

 

Some people like Florio claim that the more a team pays Trey on his contract, the less they'll offer the Bengals in trade compensation. That's not how it works. If you value him highly enough to pay him $30M+, then you should pay for the right to sign him to that contract.

 

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7 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

If true (may not be), this seems too low

 

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Who DA fuck is JPA football?  And does his mother know he's converted the Chicken coup into a Studio??  You could make a WHOLE LOT MORE MONEY PRODUCING EGGS!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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https://www.cincyjungle.com/2025/3/7/24380548/bengals-trey-hendrickson-contract-offer
 

offering Trey $30 million a year and he still is not happy?  I have no clue who and what to believe anymore in all of these contract negotiations.  $30 million seems fair to me and yet Trey isn’t happy?  The posturing by leaking BS to the media serves what purpose for the player and agent?
 

 Likewise, ownership not saying anything other then little Duke Tobin perplexes me because we all know Duke has no say in these financial decisions.  It is being constantly clear that the Brown family wants it their way with no compromises.  Every negotiation the Brown family has with players or county there is posturing by the Brown family that they appear inflexible.  If this is their strategy it isn’t working because it appears they are not working towards an end state and alienating the fan base as well as their negotiating partners. 

 

I guess winning a Super Bowl is more important to the fan and less for the ownership, players and agents

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