Trey'd Hendrickson? I don't think so.

[Le Tigre]

7 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

 

The Bengals would be justified in just telling him to play out his contract if they wanted to. But a 1st rd pick or early 2nd is a better option long term

The former is the best option. The latter is a pipe dream. 
 

And just who would they take with these great pie-in-the-sky picks…who would move the needle at all in this, the watershed season in the “window”? 

[Le Tigre]

17 minutes ago, texbengal said:

Tre isn't a kid - but he also wasn’t a full time player for several years, so he’s a “young 30” and he’s been really productive and I think still has the ability to be for a few more years

That is an interesting observation. If you remember Nolan Ryan when he arrived in Houston, he had basically been a relief pitcher with the Mets. He had more than a few major league seasons of low-intensity use when he got to the Astros. All of a sudden, he is rocketing pitches in, and routinely going 9 innings. By the time he got to the Rangers, he was for certain going to be “wearing down after all those years”. Didn’t happen. Those seasons of low intensity bought him the Fountain of Youth in the later years. 
 

Good observation 

[New Jersey Bengal]

1 hour ago, Le Tigre said:

Then why did the Raiders fork out that shitload for Maxx…and THEIR defense is shit? 
 

Whatever “revamp” isn’t going to be happening this season. 
 

And the window closes a little faster 

Who else do the raiders have to pay besides Crosby?

[New Jersey Bengal]

Just now, New Jersey Bengal said:

Who else do the raiders have to pay besides Crosby?

No one

[Le Tigre]

2 minutes ago, New Jersey Bengal said:

Who else do the raiders have to pay besides Crosby?

 

The Raiders want to overpay for a player on a shit defense…on a shit team. And…? 
 

I guess. But they aren’t in a rapidly closing window with a generational QB either 

[Griever]

 

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Allowing Trey to explore a trade doesn’t guarantee a deal will happen.  These types of trades are not easy, as many teams will not give up picks and a new contract.  Plus, his age and run defense will turn some teams off, especially considering the price.  I’m not pretending like there won’t be interest but only that a deal is not straight forward.  
 

 

[Griever]

 

 

[|BlackJesus|]

[sparky151]

1 hour ago, New Jersey Bengal said:

Who else do the raiders have to pay besides Crosby?

 

They have a bunch of free agents and are in the market for a FA QB, ie Darnold or Rodgers. So their abundance of cap space won't go as far as they might wish.

 

18 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

Allowing Trey to explore a trade doesn’t guarantee a deal will happen.  These types of trades are not easy, as many teams will not give up picks and a new contract.  Plus, his age and run defense will turn some teams off, especially considering the price.  I’m not pretending like there won’t be interest but only that a deal is not straight forward.  
 

 

 

Yes, I think it's more likely than not that Trey is on the field for the Bengals this year. Holding out isn't really an option for him under the current CBA.

 

18 minutes ago, Griever said:

 

 

 

That piece lists the Falcons and Commanders as potential trade partners. Falcons have similar needs to Bengals so a swap of first round picks should be part of any deal. Maybe we get Bates back 😄

 

3 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

 

If we went the trade route, we might use the cap space on say Javon Hargrave and the draft pick on Edge#6 or so in the draft. Say Scourton or Umamielen. 

 

[|BlackJesus|]

Squeelers fans giving themselves credit ... 

 

[TigerJ@w]

It should be great to see them get 10 totals SACKS during the season. 

[T-Dub]

1 hour ago, BlackJesus said:

Squeelers fans giving themselves credit ... 

 

 

 

Explain to me how the team is "broke" and "can't afford it"?  Because of all the other theoretical moves they haven't made? The other extensions they haven't signed?

 

It's sounding like they can't sign this guy because that one is too expensive, but they can't sign that one because this one is too expensive.

 

Meanwhile, what they've actually done for real is extend a punter and a backup OL.

 

WTF is this logic

 

[|BlackJesus|]

Chicago could be a good place to send him ... Outside the conference. 

 

[Gary]

When our defense gets worse Burrow and the rest will go away. God damn I hate the cheap owners of the Bengals. I have always hated the cheap owners of the Bengals. Being a Sacramento Kings fan since about 1990 I went through about 23 years of having cheap owners, Jim Thomas, and then the Maloofs. At least now we have a multi billionaire ownership group who is willing to pay top dollar for decent players. The Browns should be kissing the King's ownership group's feet for singlehandedly making professional teams go up like 75% overnight. This makes the Browns Billionaires as well, and they should leverage some of this to make the freaking players happy and WANT to play in Cincy. Freaking Sacramento would be protesting if they were about to let go a guy like Hendrickson and would ride them out on a rail. DeAaron Fox was not a huge loss for the Kings, because Devin Carter is killing it in the G league, and Keon Ellis is turning into a amazing 3 and D PG which Fox would have never been because he can't shoot a 3pt shot, and his defense has gotten worse over the years. Keon is an elite level defender and can actually shoot when needed (which he isn't needed to all the time because we literally have a team that can put up 130 whenever they want. 

 

If you told the 4 year old me right before the 1981 superb owl (I am going to leave this auto correct, but I meant Super Bowl) when I became a Bengal fan because I would always pick the opposite team my dad likes (Dodger fan, and he's a Giants fan. I was a Laker fan when he's a Kings fan, but I couldn't stay a Laker fan after about 1990 because I got to go to a lot of Kings games living in Sacramento, and I fell in love with them.)

 

So yah, that's how I became a Bengal fan at 4 years old when I went against my dad's favorite team the 49ers in the first Super Bowl I watched. I became die hard Bengal fan in 1985 when the Bengals Beat the Cowboys 50-24. We didn't see many Bengal games in Sacramento, but this game was the game of the week and I was supposed to ride my bike to my friends house down the street to play, but I saw the game on and was glued to the TV. In 1989 I cried when the Bengals lost the SB. 

[-GoBengals-]

8 hours ago, sparky151 said:

I doubt Trey is traded. He may even be extended, depending on what offers he gets. 

 

It would be a setback for the defense if he leaves. But he's also a poor run defender so maybe Golden didn't feel he was a good fit for his defense? 

 

Bengals should certainly make a run at Josh Sweat if Trey does leave. And they should get good pick compensation back for him. It's not that he's irreplaceable, it's that nobody trusts the team to adequately replace him.

 

100% agree, and you arent really going to replace the sack leader, 31 teams last season didnt have the sack leader.. and all but like 5 of those teams were also better than us on defense. 

 

Id expect him to find that no teams are willing to give an early 2nd or late first for him AND pay him high money.. and he comes back and stays for close to what his market value really is. The crosby deal is a depareate team cligning to all they have on the roster and overpaying by a landslide.. meanwhile Joey Bosas are being cut.

 

Hopefully its sorted out, losing him would blow ass, but trey is the 67th ranked run defense DE. there are 64 starting DE's.

 

pass pressure if phenominal. no question, truly a great player and seemingly person, great motor, great attitude, plays through all the pain... but he isnt without flaws as well.

 

8 hours ago, alleycat said:

If true, this would be bad. Will certainly alter the entire calculus of the "window" we have, unless, somehow, magically, we got multiple impact picks or players in return. 

 

I guess if we "traded" Trey for Myles Garrett, that could be a net positive, but other than that, I don't see a whole lot of upside from this, except drastically reducing our cap, so-as to make the Tee-Chase-Burrow experience live on longer...but what's the point of that if we can't field a competitive Defense to capitalize on what they can do?

 

 

This is a bit dramatic. Trey is great, he gets sacks, there are some things he doesnt do great, but if you open up that need as well it alters the draft needs and free agent targets, but the things that killed the defense was poor tackling, getting run all over (which trey isnt great at) and the secondary in shambles.

 

if i could trade trey for a top 10 safety and a top 20 corner, id do that in a heartbeat and we would probably win 4 more games than last year. while trey was the most exceptional player on defense he isnt the most important.. not giving up endless 3rd downs and letting the team run on us to kill clock is far more important. and frankly just health and a better use of talent should be a vast improvement.

[Griever]

Kinda stupid, but kinda funny. The most unrealistic part of this is that the Bengals would never have this many scouts 😂

 

 

[Dautcom08]

14 hours ago, sparky151 said:

 

Goodberry did a piece on this pointing out

 

 

 

People actually listen to that goon?  His self glorified football opinions are absolute ass.  He's got a REALLY kewl Bengals logo though LOL.  I guess the guy who publishes PFF grades and calls them his own analysis forgot when the defense was revamped with free agency signings such as Trey, Reader, Hilton, Bell, Awuzie all in nearly one fell swoop.  They have a chance to do something similar this offseason if Trey does indeed find his 32 year old pass rush only $32M a year worth elsewhere to clear cap + bring more draft capital.  I love Trey but this defense needs more than just what he brings on the edge 1-2 times a game that results in a sack.

 

The sky is not falling with a potential Trey trade as much as anyone doesn't want to say it.

[Dautcom08]

31 minutes ago, Griever said:

Kinda stupid, but kinda funny. The most unrealistic part of this is that the Bengals would never have this many scouts 😂

 

 

 

I've muted this worthless account on X.  Please stop sharing it here, thanks in advance.

[LostInDaJungle]

[Griever]

11 minutes ago, Dautcom08 said:

 

I've muted this worthless account on X.  Please stop sharing it here, thanks in advance.

I hear ya, no "fan-alysis" in this one at least. Just some AI voiceovers

[LostInDaJungle]

13 hours ago, New Jersey Bengal said:

Who else do the raiders have to pay besides Crosby?

Who else do the Bengals have to pay other than Hendrickson?

[Dautcom08]

13 hours ago, Le Tigre said:

 

The Raiders want to overpay for a player on a shit defense…on a shit team. And…? 
 

I guess. But they aren’t in a rapidly closing window with a generational QB either 

 

But they've reached out to the Falcons about trading for Kirk Cousins.  Their template should be mirrored everywhere.

[New Jersey Bengal]

1 hour ago, LostInDaJungle said:

Who else do the Bengals have to pay other than Hendrickson?

Cmon

[LostInDaJungle]

1 hour ago, New Jersey Bengal said:

Cmon

Cmon. What, are they going to spend the entire cap on Offense? They expect to have a few breakout stars on defense in the next two years that will require big signings? They have to go out and spend big during a dog-shit FA class? They have to keep Sheldon Rankins? They're going to use that money to sign an even older Myles Garrett?