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The defense hald a 'players only' meeting this week to address the bad play. I heard the safeties were late to the meeting.

Go Eagles beat The Perverts Go Washington beat the Rats Go Las Vegas Sois beat the Squeelies Go Us beat the Gnats... by 3.5 points at least.

Burrows number going up and Chase.....and Hendrickson....cant really afford an unhappy Hendrickson

New Luminas...

It will take a complete collapse for ZT to get fired. More likely that they end up in the neighborhood of .500 and we don’t see any major changes. We can always dream about landing a head coach with name recognition or good pedigree but the front office will always keep that from happening. Things are just run differently here and plenty of coaches want no part of it.

Miss a Giants week thread so put this here https://www.fox19.com/2024/10/11/bengals-wont-face-giants-star-malik-nabers-sunday-night-football-report/ Bengals won’t face Giants star Malik Nabers on Sunday Night Football: Report NEW YORK (WXIX) - The Bengals secondary will not have to worry about star rookie Malik Nabers on Sunday Night Football. The New York Giants announced Nabers will not play in the primetime matchup at Metlife Stadium, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter. Nabers, the No. 6 overall pick in the 2024 NFL Draft, is missing his second straight game due to a concussion. Like Ja’Marr Chase, Nabers looks to be the next great wide receiver from LSU. In four games this season, Nabers has 35 catches for 386 yards and three touchdowns.

It's very different. If the teams swapped defenders, Anarumo would be back to Loudini.

Bengals should have between 50 and 70 mil to spend next offseason plus up to 9 mil in carryover from this year. Chase is already on the cap at 22 mil for his 5th year option so an extension, even at 35 mil per year won't eat up too much of the space. Bengals are unlikely to do it but could easily afford to add a 20 mil player, a 15 mil player and a 10 mil player in free agency to our defense, then throw some early draft picks there too and rebuild it.

I'd have to look it up but I think it depends on position as far as which ones have a higher chance of being successful. Both Lines and QB are not as high as everything else, and then you start looking at what positions are more successful based on what round you take them. You can get a decent CB in 2 but only towards the top of 2, your chances are far better at getting a GOOD CB in 1, for instance. DT's can be found later, OGs past the first round, LBs, and RBs past the first round, S in the first or 2nd, TEs later. Once you get past round 4 every position usually ends up just being role players at best.

Still question how they're rated athletically, as a group average. They've had a good run of DB's but I'm not feeling it this year. They've recycled Bell again & he hasn't gotten any better. I thought he was supposed to communicate more than Jordan Battle? All that yapping isn't making up for the difference in natural ability. It's not just the DB's either. Too many slow players that can't or won't tackle. DL injuries don't explain why they're playing so soft. That aside, my biggest concern? Neither the HC or DC have given me the impression they're taking ownership for their record.

This thread is goofy. I guess some of y'all are newer here but if you see a post from @soisyou should automatically assume you're being trolled. 😆 No offense, I am amused.

Story by Bill Bender Will Bengals fire Zac Taylor? Why coach is on hot seat after another slow start The Bengals are 1-4 and tied for last place in the AFC North heading into a 'Sunday Night Football' matchup against the Giants in Week 6. That increases the pressure on sixth-year coach Zac Taylor to engineer a turnaround. Cincinnati lost to division rival Baltimore 41-38 in Week 5, and Taylor has taken criticism for how overtime unfolded. Bengals linebacker Germaine Pratt recovered a Lamar Jackson fumble on the first possession, but Cincinnati settled for a 53-yard field-goal attempt. Evan McPherson missed the attempt, and Baltimore responded with the game-winning field goal. "I got to put us in a better position, really," Taylor said via ESPN.com. "There's a lot of talent on the team, and as the coach, you've got to find ways to maximize that and make sure we're walking off with wins, and I haven't done a good enough job with that." Yet another slow start under Taylor and put Cincinnati behind in a tight AFC playoff race. How much heat is Taylor under now? A closer look at the coach's hot seat: Bengals record with Zac Taylor Taylor is 38-48-1 since taking over as Cincinnati's head coach in 2019, but that record is misleading. The first two seasons, which amounted to a 6-25-1 record, were part of a rebuild. Cincinnati took Joe Burrow with the No. 1 pick in the 2020 NFL Draft and receiver JaMarr Chase with the No. 5 pick in the 2021 NFL Draft. That helped reverse the fortunes of the franchise. The Bengals finished 10-7 in 2021, and they made a run to Super Bowl LVI, where they lost to the Los Angeles Rams 23-30. Cincinnati finished 12-4 the following season and made the AFC championship game. The Bengals lost to the Chiefs 23-20. In 2023, Burrow suffered a season-ending wrist injury and the Bengals finished 9-8. Now, Cincinnati is 1-4 and in danger of missing the postseason for the second straight year. Cincinnati's slow starts under Zac Taylor Despite that success, Cincinnati has become known for slow starts the past few seasons. A look at the Bengals' record through five games each of the last four seasons: YEAR RECORD THROUGH 5 GAMES 2021 3-2 2022 2-3 2023 2-3 2024 1-4 The Bengals started 0-2 in 2022 and 2023, and they were 0-3 this season before beating Carolina 34-24 in Week 4. Those slow starts have been a frequent criticism of Taylor. Zac Taylor contract Taylor is under contract with the Bengals through 2026. He signed an extension in 2022 after leading Cincinnati to an appearance in the Super Bowl. Terms of the buyout were not disclosed, and per reports, Taylor makes $4.5 million per season. Of coaches whose salaries are available, only four coaches have a lower annual salary. How hot is the coaching seat under Zac Taylor? There are other factors that have played into the Bengals' slow start. The franchise has downplayed contract disputes involving three star players. Chase has no plans to negotiate a long-term deal during the season and would potentially be a free agent in 2026. Tee Higgins is under a franchise tag this season, and edge rusher Trey Hendrickson requested a trade during the offseason. Taylor cannot be blamed for those situations. Defensive coordinator Lou Anarumo, who has been with Taylor over the past six seasons, is feeling more pressure now. Cincinnati ranks 31st in scoring defense (31.0 ppg.) and 26th in total defense (365.4 ypg.) and the Ravens racked up 520 total yards in Week 5. The Bengals have dealt with several injuries on defense, the latest coming when cornerback Dax Hill suffered a torn ACL. Still, this team misses D.J. Reader, who signed with Detroit this offseason. This is the same team that lost 26-25 to Kansas City in Week 2 in a matchup decided by a controversial pass interference call in the game's final drive, and the Bengals are the last team to beat the Chiefs in the playoffs. Burrow leads the NFL with 12 TD passes and has a career-high 72.3-percent completion percentage. There still is time to get back in the AFC playoff mix over the next four games, a stretch that includes the Giants, Browns, Eagles, and Raiders. A coaching change seems unlikely given Brown's history of retaining coaches, especially if the relationship between Taylor and Burrow remains steady and gets the Bengals back on track, but at some point, Taylor needs to start winning to ensure his job is secure.

They are 1-4, and need to win at least 4 of their next 5 games to get to 5-5 with 7 to go. I think this is manageable. Best case scenario would be to win the next 4 in a row, so that even if they lose in Baltimore, they are .500 going into the home stretch.

In addition to Thibodeaux, Giants WR Malik Nabers has also been ruled out for Monday night.

Not enough money if they want to employ 3 generations of extended family in jobs they can do from anywhere while playing with their phones.

Still no reason not to add back a productive Tee. I will never buy the “not enough money” bullshit

Going up next year.. When they will have $50M or more to spare. The continual poor-mouthing from this FO is ridiculous. Their franchise is a fucking nepotism factory and everyone knows it.

The Bengals do not own a hot seat.

Jason Williams is basically a negative, new saying troll. I'm sure there's something out there but he basically always trashes the Bengals. I think he was at one time a sports writer but "promoted" to another department. Still, he rears is ugly little head to mud sling and pile on the poop at every opportunity. Quite honestly... I didn't even read it. Just saw Arkansas's post and threw it on there for anyone interested, And I like Stephen A, the reincarnation of George Jefferson.

Here's Dehner, agreeing with Williams: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5834617/2024/10/11/afc-north-whiparound-week-6-2024/ Dehner Jr.: Remember where President Biden’s approval numbers were when he dropped out of the race? That’s about where Zac Taylor is residing after Sunday’s overtime loss. Fans want his head after the conservative overtime play calls. That doesn’t mean his seat is hot. The heating pad is in the closet, unplugged and not working. This is Cincinnati, where change moves at a glacial pace with head coaches. He’s calling plays for the most potent offense in recent franchise memory and has a history of leading runs late in the season. The sheen has certainly come off at 1-4, but nobody with any sense of the organization thinks for a second his seat is hot.

One man's junk Is another mans junk..😎

Piece by Dehner in The Athletic: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5835035/2024/10/11/bengals-defense-week-6-anarumo/ My objective this week was to talk to people from different perspectives of the Bengals conversation who know ball. I specifically chased the answer to three questions about the Cincinnati defense: What is the biggest problem, how would you fix it and is this salvageable? The knowers of ball: • Brian Baldinger: NFL Network analyst, called Bengals against the Chiefs and Ravens on radio and is a 13-year NFL veteran as an offensive lineman. • Diante Lee: The Ringer NFL/CFB analyst with specific expertise in defense. • Dave Lapham: Bengals radio color analyst for nearly four decades. • Steve Palazzolo: Co-host “Check The Mic” on 33rd Team, analytics background, formerly of “PFF NFL Show.” • Lou Anarumo: Bengals defensive coordinator. • Hilton and Logan Wilson: Defensive veterans from the Super Bowl/AFC Championship Game run and current starters. What is this defense’s biggest problem? Lapham: Up front, they are just not getting off blocks. They are getting locked up and staying locked up. They aren’t aggressively getting off blocks well enough and they are getting moved out of there. It doesn’t look to me like they are making a lot of mental errors in terms of lining up in the wrong gap or evacuating a gap on their own. They are getting moved. That’s an issue. Lee: This defensive line has taken a definitive step back. Losing DJ Reader is a big piece of that. Having B.J. Hill in and out of the lineup has been a piece of that. Sam Hubbard looks like he’s not as productive right now as in years past. That’s left Trey Hendrickson on an island in terms of trying to get to the quarterback. That’s been a big issue for them all year long is seeing Trey Hendrickson play his ass off and getting a pressure but not really affecting the quarterback because the rest of the pocket is clean. much more at the link

Cam Taylor Britt got beat to the meeting by a double move. The Dline never made it there before the meeting ended.

He probably has incentives in his contract that he could potentially earn. If they don't allow him to practice and play, they would be in violation of his contract and probably ordered to pay those. If he's sitting on the bench, that's the coach's prerogative but if the front office tells him to stay away, it violates the CBA. Remember TO with the Eagles doing pushups in his driveway in front of the media?

He's 16-29-1 in one score games during the regular season. He doesn't know how to go for the jugular.

Good for him. Quite telling that a former recent 3rd rounder wasn't even brought back on the Bengals' PS. Says a lot - total bust. That said, they didn't do him any favors with him yo-yoing his weight to try and make him more stout at the LOS. He just couldn't hold up at all. But hey, he got a 1/2 sack ... and a fumble recovery last year, IIRC. 'Course, he was probably already on the ground and it just rolled over to him,

The Bengals typically play to the level of their competition. Therefore ONE “Oops” play or bad call or no-call can determine the winner. No 🥷

You don't need to be a football writer to see what is going on.

Somone with some sense. Now of course the coaches weighing in on what we are picking is fair game to criticize them for.

I imagine they work Battle in more, and Turner is obviously the starter now. Hope all the young guys step up

The young DL are going to get a lot of snaps so at least we will find out if they will make the grade or not.

Trey and the Linebackers are the only ones playing well right now. Maybe BJ Hill, but really Hill is only playing to the top of his skill level, which is slightly above average. Hopefully some of the young players can start to step up, because I worry thats the only way the defense is going to get better. If the young guys can start playing better.

Another key point is - a team should never assume every high pick (top 3 rounds) will work out. Over time, a 50% success rate is good so you really do need to keep drfating at the Ol and DL spots. I think the bengals fall for thier own drfat hype - "he will work out" kind of thing. It was prettu clear after year 2 that Cartman and Zach Carter were busts. No need to wait longer, move on. Add more in the draft and in FA.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/columnists/jason-williams/2024/10/10/bengals-dont-change-coach-zac-taylor-isnt-getting-fired-nfl-week-6/75612266007/ Williams: Cincinnati Bengals don't change. It's why Taylor isn't getting fired Jason Williams Cincinnati Enquirer Subject: Cincinnati Bengals coach Zac Taylor on hot seat? Message: Zac Taylor is getting hammered for the play-calling in overtime and a lot of fans want him fired. Do you think he’s on the hot seat? Reply: Most teams would’ve fired Zac Taylor after a start like this. But this is yet another reminder: The Bengals don’t do things like most teams. They don’t make trades They play hardball in every contract negotiation, which they conduct on their timeline and not anyone else’s. They refuse to build their own practice complex away from the stadium. They refused to hire more scouts to try to do better in the draft. And they hate paying people not to work for them. That goes for cutting under-performing players they owe a lot of money to. That goes for firing coaches with multiple years left on their contracts. I’ve had to remind readers and friends about the way the Bengals operate lately. That two-year run to the Super Bowl and back to the AFC Championship game didn’t mean the Bengals had suddenly changed how they do business. Reminder: That success is because they failed so much they had no choice but to draft Joe Burrow and Ja’Marr Chase. Now that we’ve had a quick history lesson, Taylor is not on the hot seat – nor should he be. He’s under contract through the 2026 season. If the Bengals go on to have a disastrous season, they likely give Taylor at least 2025 to turn things around. If 2025 is a disaster, maybe – maybe – the Bengals would fire Taylor. The Bengals did part ways with Marvin Lewis after the 2018 season with one year still left on his contract. Calling for Taylor to be fired is an irrational, knee-jerk reaction. For goodness sake, Taylor took this team to its glory days in the 2021 and 2022 seasons. He did a hell of a job last season getting the Bengals to finish 9-7 and on the brink of making the playoffs after losing Burrow to injury in mid-November. Taylor is an offensive guy, and the Bengals rank fourth in the NFL in points. Taylor is certainly not perfect. The Bengals have never been ready to play to start the season during his tenure – evidenced by a 1-10 record in Weeks 1-2 under Taylor – and preparation is definitely on him. Taylor's play-calling in crunch time and in goal-line situations is head-scratching at times. But the Bengals are losing because they can't stop anyone. And this awful defense isn't really on Taylor – or Lou Anarumo, one of the best defensive coordinators in the league. The Bengals' front office put a bunch of mostly subpar defensive players on the roster, and the coaches can only do so much.

Thanks.

So, a few years ago the Bengals were (somewhat rightfully) dragged for using an old cart as a makeshift podium for press conferences. Reporters would put their mics and phones on it to record answers so it was dubbed "the mic cart". Haven't seen it in a while, but I think the "BENGALS" helmet is the easter egg so to speak...throwbacks coming?

Sounds like Milton on tap if Zack and Chase don't play?

CTB can be beat off the line with a double move far too much for my liking

Vonn Bell has never been an all pro not even at his peek. He is good, but not all pro, not even pro bowl level.

Too early in the season. That would be sign of throwing in the towel. I don't think anyone is ready to just give up yet after 5 games. Not every team has Lamar Jackson. So if they continue to play as well as they did we are going to win a lot more games over the remainder of the season. I think this is the first game where they really started to click on offense. Now its off to the races.

That's only allowed in the secret invite-only private forum. BYOBabyoil

Pass that over here, dude. 😆

Biggest concern has to be the safeties. Both are slower than Sunday Easter Mass. Stone ran a pedestrian 4.62 at the combine. Bell is probably a few steps slower now. Those 7 interceptions from Geno Stone last year are fools gold. Haven't seen one play from Stone this year where is was in position to get one.