Jamie_B Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='Bengals1181' date='15 August 2009 - 12:09 AM' timestamp='1250305747' post='791485'] Hard Knocks is a reality sports documentary television series produced by NFL Films and HBO. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Knocks_(TV_series) Documentary: Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or [b]inserting fictional matter,[/b] as in a book or film. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/documentary (so much for you claiming you don't want them to fake it). Players talk. What's worse for the Bengals image as far as the league goes? Not providing it for players, which is not a huge deal, or providing them this year since the cameras are around and Bengals players telling players around the league that "the team only gave us tv's this year because HBO was there". Seriously, you're trying to make this into a big deal and its not. [/quote] You know what its late and I dont have the patience for your dumbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengalpunk Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='Jamie_B' date='14 August 2009 - 08:44 PM' timestamp='1250293440' post='791076'] I cant believe you dont understand this, it is pretty logical Year after year after year this teams gets the "notoriously cheap" label put on them This year they have hbo cameras in front of them with the chance to put froward an image that is contrary to that label so that they can change that image and they go and do something that only reinforces it The Krafts and Roonies or whoever dont matter here, I dont care what the other 31 teams do or dont do in camp, they dont get that label and they dont have the chance to change it this year only to make a boneheaded move like that, because even the little things count when it comes to putting on a good perception, it's free marketing so put your best foot foward [/quote] Well I guess if I was a coach I would want my players focused on football and nothing else so a TV would be considered a privilege and not a necessity but hey I am not a football coach so what do I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bengal Migration| Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Jamie. Please. Go. Get. Laid. A page and half of you whining about players not getting free TVs? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Forget it, if people cant understand my point and the validity in it (well some did anyway) I cant help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Lucid| Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='Jamie_B' date='15 August 2009 - 09:37 AM' timestamp='1250339873' post='791552'] Forget it, if people cant understand my point and the validity in it (well some did anyway) I cant help you. [/quote] Well I can't help you if you think having TV's or not has an impact on the quality of this football team, or if you don't understand the validity of the point that no matter what the Bengals do they will be perceived as a joke until they start winning. All the stagecraft in the world will not help them change their image to 1/10 the degree that a playoff win would. And absolutely none of this (having criminals on the team, giving out small towels, locking the Gatorade closet, no TV's at camp, etc) would matter in the slightest if we had a different record on the field. 90% of this crap we get handed in the media and "perception of the franchise" is simply window dressing to our abysmal performance on the grid iron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='Lucid' date='15 August 2009 - 10:01 AM' timestamp='1250341286' post='791560'] Well I can't help you if you think having TV's or not has an impact on the quality of this football team, or if you don't understand the validity of the point that no matter what the Bengals do they will be perceived as a joke until they start winning. All the stagecraft in the world will not help them change their image to 1/10 the degree that a playoff win would. And absolutely none of this (having criminals on the team, giving out small towels, locking the Gatorade closet, no TV's at camp, etc) would matter in the slightest if we had a different record on the field. 90% of this crap we get handed in the media and "perception of the franchise" is simply window dressing to our abysmal performance on the grid iron. [/quote] So then was was the point of doing the show? Didnt they want to use it as a tool for changing their image? Because I thought thats why they said yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Lucid| Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='Jamie_B' date='15 August 2009 - 10:04 AM' timestamp='1250341493' post='791562'] So then was was the point of doing the show? Didnt they want to use it as a tool for changing their image? Because I thought thats why they said yes... [/quote] I think they feel maligned by the media.. I don't think the intent was to "put on a show". I for one am glad that I trust that what I am seeing is real.. Who wants a "dog and pony show"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted August 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='Jamie_B' date='15 August 2009 - 09:04 AM' timestamp='1250341493' post='791562'] So then was was the point of doing the show? Didnt they want to use it as a tool for changing their image? Because I thought thats why they said yes... [/quote] My understanding is that it was to change their "thug" image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='Lucid' date='15 August 2009 - 10:11 AM' timestamp='1250341900' post='791568'] I think they feel maligned by the media.. I don't think the intent was to "put on a show". I for one am glad that I trust that what I am seeing is real.. Who wants a "dog and pony show"? [/quote] I dont but I dont want them to not address the little things that can help them change that image too. I really cant believe some people dont get this. [quote name='oldschooler' date='15 August 2009 - 10:15 AM' timestamp='1250342124' post='791571'] My understanding is that it was to change their "thug" image. [/quote] I dont know old, I thought it was image period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='oldschooler' date='15 August 2009 - 10:15 AM' timestamp='1250342124' post='791571'] My understanding is that it was to change their "thug" image. [/quote] I think the Eagles just helped us with our "Thug" image. Hopefully, when a person thinks of a thug team in the NFL, they will think first of the Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='Jamie_B' date='15 August 2009 - 02:00 AM' timestamp='1250312452' post='791519'] You know what its late and I dont have the patience for your dumbass. [/quote] I'll take that as an admission that you're whining about triviality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='Jamie_B' date='15 August 2009 - 10:04 AM' timestamp='1250341493' post='791562'] So then was was the point of doing the show? Didnt they want to use it as a tool for changing their image? Because I thought thats why they said yes... [/quote] it was to change their "thug" image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='Jamie_B' date='15 August 2009 - 10:27 AM' timestamp='1250342845' post='791572'] I dont but I dont want them to not address the little things that can help them change that image too. [b]I really cant believe some people dont get this.[/b] I dont know old, I thought it was image period. [/quote] I get your point, but harping on something as trivial as TV's is silly. Sure, they can take steps to improve their image, but there are better ways to go about it than providing TV's at training camp. As Lucid said, I like that I know that what I'm seeing is REAL, for better or for worse. And I'm sure that players around the league (who would definitely find out) wouldn't appreciate and think better of the Bengals if they knew that the team made changes to how they do business only because HBO was there. If they provided TV's this year, they'd have to provide them every year, and honestly, regardless of the cost, I don't think them providing TV's at training camp is that big of a deal, [u]especially when they are allowed to bring their own![/u] You're right that the team has an image problem as far as being "cheap", and I hope they choose to take steps to improve that image. Providing TV's wouldn't really do much to accomplish that however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='Bengals1181' date='15 August 2009 - 12:02 PM' timestamp='1250348572' post='791622'] [color="#FF0000"]I get your point,[/color] but harping on something as trivial as TV's is silly. Sure, they can take steps to improve their image, but there are better ways to go about it than providing TV's at training camp. As Lucid said, I like that I know that what I'm seeing is REAL, for better or for worse. And I'm sure that players around the league (who would definitely find out) wouldn't appreciate and think better of the Bengals if they knew that the team made changes to how they do business only because HBO was there. If they provided TV's this year, they'd have to provide them every year, and honestly, regardless of the cost, I don't think them providing TV's at training camp is that big of a deal, [u]especially when they are allowed to bring their own![/u] You're right that the team has an image problem as far as being "cheap", and I hope they choose to take steps to improve that image. Providing TV's wouldn't really do much to accomplish that however. [/quote] Was that so hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='Jamie_B' date='15 August 2009 - 12:11 PM' timestamp='1250349068' post='791625'] Was that so hard? [/quote] I didn't say I agreed with it. You're being stupid. You're just too stupid to realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted August 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 @[url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton"][color="#2fc2ef"]JohnThornton[/color][/url] is the brown fam as cheap as we think they are, or is it normal for NFL teams to charge for TVs?[url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad/status/3321686209"] [/url][url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad/status/3321686209"][/url][url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad/status/3321686209"]about 13 hours ago[/url] from [url="http://ubertwitter.com/"]UberTwitter[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton/status/3320973599"]in reply to JohnThornton [/url] [url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad"]http://twitter.com/downsbrad[/url] @[url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad"][color="#55161c"]downsbrad[/color][/url] nobody gives away Tvs for free it was only $180 for three weeks. Some guys don't even want Tvs [url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton/status/3322072022"]about 13 hours ago[/url] from [url="http://www.atebits.com/"]Tweetie[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad/status/3321686209"]in reply to downsbrad [/url] @[url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad"][color="#55161c"]downsbrad[/color][/url] but most guys bring their own[url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton/status/3322642376"]about 12 hours ago[/url] from [url="http://ubertwitter.com/"]UberTwitter[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad/status/3322284959"]in reply to downsbrad[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton"]http://twitter.com/JohnThornton[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='oldschooler' date='15 August 2009 - 12:13 PM' timestamp='1250352817' post='791657'] @[url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton"][color="#2fc2ef"]JohnThornton[/color][/url] is the brown fam as cheap as we think they are, or is it normal for NFL teams to charge for TVs?[url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad/status/3321686209"] [/url][url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad/status/3321686209"]about 13 hours ago[/url] from [url="http://ubertwitter.com/"]UberTwitter[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton/status/3320973599"]in reply to JohnThornton [/url] [url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad"]http://twitter.com/downsbrad[/url] @[url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad"][color="#55161c"]downsbrad[/color][/url] nobody gives away Tvs for free it was only $180 for three weeks. Some guys don't even want Tvs [url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton/status/3322072022"]about 13 hours ago[/url] from [url="http://www.atebits.com/"]Tweetie[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad/status/3321686209"]in reply to downsbrad [/url] @[url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad"][color="#55161c"]downsbrad[/color][/url] but most guys bring their own[url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton/status/3322642376"]about 12 hours ago[/url] from [url="http://ubertwitter.com/"]UberTwitter[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad/status/3322284959"]in reply to downsbrad[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton"]http://twitter.com/JohnThornton[/url] [/quote] lol... pwned.. seems like jamie really really likes a to bitch lately... about just about anything.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='oldschooler' date='15 August 2009 - 01:13 PM' timestamp='1250352817' post='791657'] @[url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton"][color="#2fc2ef"]JohnThornton[/color][/url] is the brown fam as cheap as we think they are, or is it normal for NFL teams to charge for TVs?[url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad/status/3321686209"] [/url][url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad/status/3321686209"][/url][url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad/status/3321686209"]about 13 hours ago[/url] from [url="http://ubertwitter.com/"]UberTwitter[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton/status/3320973599"]in reply to JohnThornton [/url] [url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad"]http://twitter.com/downsbrad[/url] @[url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad"][color="#55161c"]downsbrad[/color][/url] nobody gives away Tvs for free it was only $180 for three weeks. Some guys don't even want Tvs [url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton/status/3322072022"]about 13 hours ago[/url] from [url="http://www.atebits.com/"]Tweetie[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad/status/3321686209"]in reply to downsbrad [/url] @[url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad"][color="#55161c"]downsbrad[/color][/url] but most guys bring their own[url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton/status/3322642376"]about 12 hours ago[/url] from [url="http://ubertwitter.com/"]UberTwitter[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/downsbrad/status/3322284959"]in reply to downsbrad[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton"]http://twitter.com/JohnThornton[/url] [/quote] and that should end this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Lucid| Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Jamie Maybe you should think about this the next time you are trying to read into a situation that you really don't know about, before you start acting like you know and everyone else are just being idiots. [quote] Jamie_B, on 14 August 2009 - 06:19 PM, said: No it's you who doesnt get it. As stated Roy Williams reaction said it all.[/quote] HMMM?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 [quote name='Bengals1181' date='15 August 2009 - 12:13 PM' timestamp='1250349190' post='791629'] I didn't say I agreed with it. You're being stupid. You're just too stupid to realize it. [/quote] I never asked you to. Now get bent. All of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CougarQuest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 [quote name='Jamie_B' date='15 August 2009 - 06:50 PM' timestamp='1250373048' post='791741'] I never asked you to. Now get bent. All of you. [/quote] [img]http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/pamprin.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 [quote name='CougarQuest' date='15 August 2009 - 09:26 PM' timestamp='1250382392' post='791764'] [img]http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/pamprin.jpg[/img] [/quote] Yeah a couple people need them whenever anything is said about the bengals that isnt in a positive light, even if its neutral or inconsequential, but if its not positive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Lucid| Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 [quote name='Jamie_B' date='16 August 2009 - 01:10 AM' timestamp='1250395859' post='791813'] Yeah a couple people need them whenever anything is said about the bengals that isnt in a positive light, even if its neutral or inconsequential, but if its not positive... [/quote] Sorry Jamie... This isn't "all the homers" (have you checked your sig BTW recently?) against the realist who refuses to dawn the orange colored glasses. You are simply wrong about this one. And if you can't admit it, it says a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble In the Jungle Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 [quote name='cp2024' date='13 August 2009 - 12:35 AM' timestamp='1250134535' post='790322'] Jim Lipencott is one weird shaped dude. [/quote] [quote name='T-Dub' date='13 August 2009 - 12:37 AM' timestamp='1250134679' post='790325'] He's got those shorts hiked up to his armpits [/quote] took this picture with my cell, but damn this is one weird shaped guy. and they need to figure out a different way to cut guys for sure! this picture was during him signing that OL guy from Kent State (Randy Jackson) [IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y277/nammari/GetAttachment-1.jpg[/IMG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 [quote name='Rumble In the Jungle' date='16 August 2009 - 04:34 PM' timestamp='1250451299' post='791948'] took this picture with my cell, but damn this is one weird shaped guy. and they need to figure out a different way to cut guys for sure! this picture was during him signing that OL guy from Kent State (Randy Jackson) [IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y277/nammari/GetAttachment-1.jpg[/IMG] [/quote] Thats what we call a kangaroo pouch. He keeps his lil' cubs warm in that sumbitch. It can get pretty cold when you don't have a practice bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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