unleashed Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 I know the obvious answer will probably be Alexander but I think Fitzgerald has to be in there too. Yeah we got a couple stop gaps with Lawson and Howard but with his past experience with the ravens, i really had higher hopes for our LB play after Fitz came in... If you guys could pick one or two guys who would it be? Not saying they will happen, just for conversation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboi Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 fitzgerald, he has not done anything seen leaving baltimore, with any of the linebackers here.paul alexander has had sucess in the past but nate living,mike mcglynn,dennis roland on this team is inexcuseable.both should fire right along with jay hayes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASTYNATI Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Alexander and Jon Hayes. The false starts and average play of this unit during the Marvin Era is laughable. It's time to move on. Jermaine Gresham is being wasted, Hayes isn't able to develop anyone. The friendships and loyalty around Bengals camp are really what is holding this team back from getting to the next level it seems. Cut the dead weight and bring in coaches with aggressive, winning attitudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsfan850 Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 while marvin is here the hayes will never be let go, i read somewhere that they are lifelong friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASTYNATI Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='bengalsfan850' timestamp='1327256254' post='1091182'] while marvin is here the hayes will never be let go, i read somewhere that they are lifelong friends [/quote] If this is proved true add him to the list I want replaced. Friendship is no excuse for mediocrity. Jon Hayes has proven he cannot develop and coach players at this level. It's time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legoland Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='NASTYNATI' timestamp='1327260229' post='1091189'] If this is proved true add him to the list I want replaced. Friendship is no excuse for mediocrity. Jon Hayes has proven he cannot develop and coach players at this level. It's time to move on. [/quote] It was proved true the minute Marvin hired them. They touched on it in the HBO training camp stuff jay Hayes and Marvin have been friends for a loooong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrlnutz Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='NASTYNATI' timestamp='1327239510' post='1091130'] Alexander and Jon Hayes. The false starts and average play of this unit during the Marvin Era is laughable. It's time to move on. [b]Jermaine Gresham is being wasted[/b], Hayes isn't able to develop anyone. The friendships and loyalty around Bengals camp are really what is holding this team back from getting to the next level it seems. Cut the dead weight and bring in coaches with aggressive, winning attitudes. [/quote] Yet another poster who doesn't understand how complicated it is to learn an NFL offense. Gresham is learning the game, he's not being wasted. How many quotes from Lewis and Gruden about Gresh doing things for the first time in his life this year without the benefit of an off-season do you people need to read before you'll even consider waiting another year to make a judgement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unleashed Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='Squirrlnutz' timestamp='1327264969' post='1091216'] Yet another poster who doesn't understand how complicated it is to learn an NFL offense. Gresham is learning the game, he's not being wasted. How many quotes from Lewis and Gruden about Gresh doing things for the first time in his life this year without the benefit of an off-season do you people need to read before you'll even consider waiting another year to make a judgement?[/quote] I understand Gresham has only had one training camp to learn, but you also have to look at guys like Gronkowski and Hernandez. Yes they play for the pats and they have Brady, but they are light years ahead of Gresham in terms of production. People just had high hopes for jermaine and its hard not to be disappointed a little. That being said, I think next year will be a big one for 84 with a full offseason with dalton and gruden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='unleashed' timestamp='1327266402' post='1091225'] I understand Gresham has only had one training camp to learn, but you also have to look at guys like Gronkowski and Hernandez. Yes they play for the pats and they have Brady, but they are light years ahead of Gresham in terms of production. People just had high hopes for jermaine and its hard not to be disappointed a little. That being said, I think next year will be a big one for 84 with a full offseason with dalton and gruden. [/quote] Brady could fit a football through a cat's ass hole. Gresham would have 1,000 yards over there. Green would have had 2,600. Nothing against our man Dalton, but Tom Brady has turned a couple TE's and a 5'10" 190 lb receiver into some of the biggest playmakers in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='unleashed' timestamp='1327213710' post='1091109'] I know the obvious answer will probably be Alexander but I think Fitzgerald has to be in there too. Yeah we got a couple stop gaps with Lawson and Howard but with his past experience with the ravens, i really had higher hopes for our LB play after Fitz came in... If you guys could pick one or two guys who would it be? Not saying they will happen, just for conversation... [/quote] Jim Anderson, running backs coach, has been around forever and it is not out of the realm of possibility that he retires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='High School Harry' timestamp='1327269178' post='1091245'] Jim Anderson, running backs coach, has been around forever and it is not out of the realm of possibility that he retires. [/quote] Doug Martin doesn't need a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrlnutz Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='unleashed' timestamp='1327266402' post='1091225'] I understand Gresham has only had one training camp to learn, but you also have to look at guys like Gronkowski and Hernandez. [b]Yes they play for the pats and they have Brady, but they are light years ahead of Gresham in terms of production.[/b] People just had high hopes for jermaine and its hard not to be disappointed a little. That being said, I think next year will be a big one for 84 with a full offseason with dalton and gruden. [/quote] Tom Brady shits out more NFL knowledge and experience than Dalton has and will have in the next 3 years. Gronk and Hernandez walked into a great situation on arguably a top 5 offensive Dynasty in the history of the NFL. They almost never block, they call a route and if there isn't a favorable matchup Tom will yell something and they run a different route. Gresham has never had to read a defense. He never really had to block until he came in last year. Andy Dalton likely had trouble figuring out who was his 2nd read for most of the season, let alone dictating audibles and hot routes to Gresham. They were learning cadence, breaking the huddle, formations and motions on the fly. For crying out loud they had issues with Gresham lining up on the wrong side of a formation at the beginning of the year, how can anyone expect that same guy to be a focal point of the offense? I really wonder how deeply people think about these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='Tigris' timestamp='1327269372' post='1091247'] Doug Martin doesn't need a coach. [/quote] Not sure what you mean. How about Chuck Norris doesn't need a coach, the coach needs Chuck Norris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='High School Harry' timestamp='1327269776' post='1091250'] Not sure what you mean. How about Chuck Norris doesn't need a coach, the coach needs Chuck Norris. [/quote] Something along those lines. It was my failed attempt to highjack a thread. Or is it hijack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 [quote name='Tigris' timestamp='1327269989' post='1091252'] Something along those lines. It was my failed attempt to [b]highjack[/b] a thread. [b]Or is it hijack?[/b] [/quote] I think it's "Hi, Jack." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 [url="https://twitter.com/#!/joereedy"]joereedy[/url] [color=#999999][size=3]Joe Reedy[/size][/color] Even with Coyle interviewing in Miami, [url="https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23bengals"][s]#[/s][b]bengals[/b][/url] head coach Marvin Lewis says there is "one other staff opening" not related to Coyle ... [url="https://twitter.com/#!/joereedy/status/162263521319596032"]1 minute ago [/url][size=2][url="https://twitter.com/#"][b]Favorite[/b][/url] [url="https://twitter.com/#"][b]Retweet[/b][/url] [url="https://twitter.com/#"][b]Reply[/b][/url][/size] [url="https://twitter.com/#!/joereedy"]joereedy[/url] [color=#999999][size=3]Joe Reedy[/size][/color] [color=#999999][size=2] [/size][/color] [font=Arial,] Lewis did not say what the opening is, but all indicators point to LB coach Jeff FitzGerald's contract not being renewed ...[/font] [url="https://twitter.com/#!/joereedy/status/162263821036175360"]1 minute ago [/url][size=2][url="https://twitter.com/#"][b]Favorite[/b][/url] [url="https://twitter.com/#"][b]Retweet[/b][/url] [url="https://twitter.com/#"][b]Reply[/b][/url][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 [url="https://twitter.com/#!/joereedy"]joereedy[/url] [color=#999999][size=3]Joe Reedy[/size][/color] [color=#999999][size=2] [/size][/color] [font=Arial,] FitzGerald was believed to be gone last year but stayed on for one more season. And no, Jack Del Rio is not coming here as LBs coach[/font] [url="https://twitter.com/#!/joereedy/status/162264266999738369"]1 minute ago [/url][size=2][url="https://twitter.com/#"][b]Favorite[/b][/url] [url="https://twitter.com/#"][b]Retweet[/b][/url] [url="https://twitter.com/#"][b]Reply[/b][/url][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Where is Zach Thomas these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalBengalEd Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 No surprise since we have the worst lb crew in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#22 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 I thought his work with Howard and Lawson was pretty good.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 If Jeff Fitzgerald leaves.... Bring in Pat Fitzgterald!!! He'll never leave Northwestern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 What's Adam Zimmer's status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 ^^^^^^ Still an assistant with the Chiefs ? No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 [quote name='schotzee' timestamp='1327524397' post='1092144'] ^^^^^^ Still an assistant with the Chiefs ? No? [/quote] yes, not sure in what role. He was a LB coach at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 [quote name='Lewdog' timestamp='1327522758' post='1092126'] Where is Zach Thomas these days? [/quote] or Dat Nguyen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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