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Joey Votto agrees to 10-year, $225 million deal with Reds

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Just saw this on ESPN. Glad this is close to getting done.

But what would this mean as far as signing Brandon Philips is concerned?

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Already being discussed in the Predictions thread, but I do think it's worth its own thread.

I think the Brandon deal hinges to some degree on how the Votto extension is structured, and how the attendance goes the rest of this year, or possibly a restructure of the FS Ohio deal.

But, frankly, if I can only keep one, it's Votto.

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I think a Votto deal means no Phillips' deal. A [url="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23Reds"][s]#[/s][b]Reds[/b][/url]' insider: "Phillips is a very good. But he's not going to contend the MVP every year."[/font][/color]

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votto's total deal for 10 total years will be worth almost exactly $200M for 10 years, i'm hearing[/font][/color]
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A big reason Votto's close to signing as extension? "I'm about to sign a huge deal, John, and you're the only media I have answer to."[url="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23reds"][s]#[/s][b]reds[/b][/url][/font][/color]

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[url="https://twitter.com/#!/BNightengale"][b]Bob Nightengale[/b]‏[s]@[/s][b]BNightengale[/b][/url]

Breaking: Joey Votto gets 10-year, $225 milion extension, even eclipsing Prince Fielder, tying him to [url="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23Reds"][s]#[/s][b]Reds[/b][/url] through [b]2023[/b]. More in USA TODAY





I'm pretty sure that "through 2013" is a type-o. So I edited to make it accurate.

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[url="https://twitter.com/#!/BNightengale"][b]Bob Nightengale[/b]‏[s]@[/s][b]BNightengale[/b][/url]

Votto will get no-trade clause throughout the staggering deal with [url="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23Reds"][s]#[/s][b]Reds[/b][/url], 4th biggest in [url="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23MLB"][s]#[/s][b]MLB[/b][/url] history [url="http://t.co/SsENqLtf"]http://usat.ly/HiDPZs[/url]

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[url="https://twitter.com/#!/BNightengale"][b]Bob Nightengale[/b]‏[s]@[/s][b]BNightengale[/b][/url]

Joey Votto's $225 million contract is easily largest in [url="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23MLB"][s]#[/s][b]MLB[/b][/url] history for player who wasn't a free agent. It will kick in for 2014 season.

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Now hopefully they can re-sign BP too.

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This dude is saying it's a 10 year $200 million deal ....



[url="https://twitter.com/#!/JonHeymanCBS"][b]Jon Heyman[/b]‏[s]@[/s][b]JonHeymanCBS[/b][/url]

have to say, great job by [url="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23reds"][s]#[/s][b]reds[/b][/url] owner bob castellini to keep votto in small-market cincy for 10 years, 'til votto is 38




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so votto's extension would appear to be 8 yrs, about $173M. that would bring the total to $200M



[url="https://twitter.com/#!/JonHeymanCBS"][b]Jon Heyman[/b]‏[s]@[/s][b]JonHeymanCBS[/b][/url]

votto's total deal for 10 total years will be worth almost exactly $200M for 10 years, i'm hearing

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[url="https://twitter.com/#!/FOXSportsOH"][b]FOX Sports Ohio[/b]‏[s]@[/s][b]FOXSportsOH[/b][/url]

Multiple reports have Joey Votto signing extension with Reds - for the next 1,944 games (plus playoffs).

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The fans need to make this deal manageable by filling the stadium this year (and the next several)!

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Yeah, but can he pitch?




















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Seriously, I'm stunned they were able to sign him, as well as incredibly pleased...

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Great news. Hope they can keep Phillips but thats going to be tough now.

Love this new ownership, they go out and make things happen.

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The good news is I wont have to change the second part of my name for 12 years!

Im happy with this deal. Its risky, but it would make me sick to see some team like the yankees or red sox take him in 2 years if he hadnt signed the extension.

I think the biggest risk though is this city's fans and media. This city can get kinda harsh towards guys, ie booing griffey or booing palmer while he was still here. If votto were to get hurt or even if we just dont win as much as we should, a lot of the blame will get put on him. And he is kinda weird and abrasive to the media, so if they start to turn on him it could get ugly.

But at the end of the day we are trying to win a championship. If he can bring that to cincy he will be loved forever by us fans.

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So pretty much, Fox sports is paying Joey Votto $20million a season to show our games on tv. :)

I assume this will be the deal when it expires and right about when Votto's huge contract kicks.

$140,000 a game. what a life.

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[b] [url="http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2012/04/03/some-thought-on-vottos-deal/"]Some thoughts on Votto’s deal[/url][/b]

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You can read several things into Joey Votto’s mega-millions deal with Reds:

–The club is convinced its revenue stream will increase. A Reds insider told me as much. Part of that comes from national television, part of MLB other new media revenue sources.

–The club is convinced that it will be to get a new local deal with Fox Sports Ohio before the current one expires in 2016. The Reds won’t be getting anywhere near with the Angels and Rangers got. But, say they get a $10 million a year bump, that covers the difference between Votto’s salary this year ($11 million) and what he’s getting when the 10-year, $225 million extension kicks in.

Was it risky to agree to such a huge deal? Certainly. Votto isn’t likely to be the same player at 38 as he is at 28. But he takes great care of himself. He plays a position that is less taxing than outfield or the middle infield.

But it would have been just as risky to let Votto walk. The current ownership is trying to rebuild credibility with the long-suffering fan base. It’s hard to do that when you let your best player walk.

The comparison a lot of people are making is with the Ken Griffey Jr. deal. That didn’t work out for the Reds because Griffey was injured so much. If Votto suddenly becomes injury-prone, this deal won’t work out either.

But there are differences. The current owner, Bob Castellini, understands baseball a lot better than Carl Lindner did. Lindner thought that getting Griffey was enough. The Reds added Griffey’s big salary and kept the overall payroll about the same.

Castellini knows the Reds need more than Votto. I think Castellini plans to move the payroll toward $100 million over the next couple of years. If they do that, Votto is affordable because the Reds are fairly deep in young (read cheap) talent.

While Castellini said a deal with Votto did not preclude a deal with Brandon Phillips, Phillips’ words “I just want to play baseball” and body language yesterday told me the Reds aren’t offering him what he wants.

The Reds have other options among middle infielders. Didi Gregorius could be ready by next season. Billy Hamilton could be ready by 2014. They also have Henry Rodriguez. He hit .305 and .320 the last two years. One baseball operations type told me Rodriguez could hold his own at the plate right now.



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All would be a dropoff from Phillips. He’s a very good player. But, I’ll repeat what a Reds insider told me: Phillips isn’t going to compete for the MVP every year. Votto is.

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wow...just wow, I remember when they traded for Griffey I thought that was probably the biggest signing we would see in cincy. Never thought Votto would sign an extenstion here, but glory be! He did! :dance:

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[url="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23Reds"][s]#[/s][b]Reds[/b][/url] also have an option year for 2024(!) in new Votto deal, which is now official[/font][/color]

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[url="https://twitter.com/#!/Jamieblog"][b]Jamie Ramsey[/b]‏[s]@[/s][b]Jamieblog[/b][/url]

Votto Press Conference will be streamed live on [url="http://t.co/WfoZTxo9"]http://MLB.com[/url]. Use this link --> [url="http://t.co/Y91XK61f"]http://atmlb.com/bIm5Xm[/url]

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[color=#333333][font=HelveticaNeue,]Three years ago, Votto and I stayed in the same condo complex in Arizona. I drove as nice a car. [url="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23taxbracketschange"][s]#[/s][b]taxbracketschange[/b][/url][/font][/color]

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I think the length of the contract is ludicrous. Its likely he won't be playing out the entirety of the deal (because really its 12 years as he still had two years left on his old deal) and the Reds are on the hook for the entire contract no matter what. Good grief baseball players have it good with their guaranteed contracts. I hope this doesn't bite the Reds in the ass down the road. If they manage a championship or two it will have been worth it though.

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[color=#333333][font=HelveticaNeue,]Votto's contract is for $12, $14, $20, $22 million. Then $25 million for the other 6 years. $20 mill option, $7 mill buyout. [url="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23reds"][s]#[/s][b]reds[/b][/url][/font][/color]

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