Jamie_B Posted February 27 Author Report Share Posted February 27 Watching a ZimWhodey vs Joe Goodberry discussion and this guys name got brought up, someone to keep an eye on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Griever Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 For those interested...I can put notable remarks in this thread unless there is a scouting combine thread somewhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 Assistant coaches speak tomorrow fyi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 20 minutes ago, Griever said: unless there is a scouting combine thread somewhere I made one ... https://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?/topic/90773-2024-nfl-scouting-combine/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 2 hours ago, Jamie_B said: Watching a ZimWhodey vs Joe Goodberry discussion and this guys name got brought up, someone to keep an eye on. …and I’m sure Ja’Marr would be more than happy to let him have jersey # 1. 🥷 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 6 hours ago, High School Harry said: Hot off the presses https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/26/bengals-dish-50m-contract-key-free-agent-leonard-williams-idea/ B/R suggests Bengals dish $50M contract to key free agent The Cincinnati Bengals feel like a team about to make another big splash in free agency. After all, while boasting droves of cap space after the Tee Higgins franchise tag, the Bengals have a host of needs to address. Chief among those is the defensive line, so it’s fitting that Bleacher Report’s Gary Davenport suggests the Bengals go and get their best team fit, Leonard Williams: Leonard Williams isn’t the best defensive tackle hitting the market in 2024. He’s just the best interior lineman with a real shot at leaving—Chris Jones of the Chiefs, Justin Madubuike of the Ravens and Christian Wilkins of the Dolphins will probably be extended and/or tagged by their current teams. The projected contract on that deal? Three years and $50.5 million, with $36.5 million registered as guaranteed. Williams, a former top-10 pick, just put up four sacks over 10 games in Seattle and has that interior pass-rush burst the Cincinnati defense needs. What’s especially important for the Bengals to find is versatility and depth in addition to pass-rush ability. DJ Reader is a free agent and injured, leaving B.J. Hill as the most productive interior player. Williams, even at that price tag, would be a big upgrade. ******ummmmm... no Ummm why? I thought the team wanted to grab a run defender and interior rusher? He can provide both. They don't come cheap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 22 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Ummm why? I thought the team wanted to grab a run defender and interior rusher? He can provide both. They don't come cheap. too pricy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, High School Harry said: too pricy. 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, High School Harry said: too pricy. He's easily affordable. But if we're going to pay big money for a DT, he needs to provide good pass rush as well as run stopping. Seattle had a poor defense last year which didn't much improve after their offseason spending binge and trade for Williams. I'd rather get Madubuike or Wilkins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 27 Author Report Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, sparky151 said: He's easily affordable. But if we're going to pay big money for a DT, he needs to provide good pass rush as well as run stopping. Seattle had a poor defense last year which didn't much improve after their offseason spending binge and trade for Williams. I'd rather get Madubuike or Wilkins. I have a feeling Madubuike and Wilkins are both going to get tagged. I think the best plan based on the most likely scenarios is try to see where Reader is at and resign him, then look to the draft for another long term NT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 3 hours ago, Jamie_B said: I have a feeling Madubuike and Wilkins are both going to get tagged. I think the best plan based on the most likely scenarios is try to see where Reader is at and resign him, then look to the draft for another long term NT OK but who do they get to actually start when Reader isn't healthy yet and the rookie NT plays like a rookie NT? This notion that they draft a RT & NT in the first 2 rounds and everything's golden is pure fantasy. They'll be lucky to draft a quality day one starter at either position. There's no way around the fact that they can't have the 5th most cap space at the end of this offseason and still expect to return to the SB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 9 minutes ago, T-Dub said: OK but who do they get to actually start when Reader isn't healthy yet and the rookie NT plays like a rookie NT? This notion that they draft a RT & NT in the first 2 rounds and everything's golden is pure fantasy. They'll be lucky to draft a quality day one starter at either position. There's no way around the fact that they can't have the 5th most cap space at the end of this offseason and still expect to return to the SB. I dont know what to tell you. This FA class for NT and RT isn't that great, at least with RT you can get a bridge guy, but there really isn't even a bridge NT that I can see. Should they have waited this long to find a Reader replacement after Shelvin failed to be that? No they should not have, but they did and now we are at a you have to build the team you can. I'm not opposed to spending money but I also don't want to overpay for guys either, you have to spend money on the right players and I don't know that there is a NT that we can find. That means a rookie might start, that's the reality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 12 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: I dont know what to tell you. This FA class for NT and RT isn't that great, at least with RT you can get a bridge guy, but there really isn't even a bridge NT that I can see. Should they have waited this long to find a Reader replacement after Shelvin failed to be that? No they should not have, but they did and now we are at a you have to build the team you can. I'm not opposed to spending money but I also don't want to overpay for guys either, you have to spend money on the right players and I don't know that there is a NT that we can find. That means a rookie might start, that's the reality. What's overpaying mean exactly? This team has a SB window and the market is what it is.. Maybe that means paying more than they want for a NT; oh well. There's a need and there's whoever is available. I'm sure they don't want to pay big bucks for an average player, but that's the price of not planning ahead. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, T-Dub said: Maybe that means paying more than they want for a NT What NT is it that they’re supposed to overpay for exactly? There is no one hitting the FA market that’s even remotely close to being in the same league as DJ Reader. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 4 minutes ago, T-Dub said: What's overpaying mean exactly? This team has a SB window and the market is what it is.. Maybe that means paying more than they want for a NT; oh well. There's a need and there's whoever is available. I'm sure they don't want to pay big bucks for an average player, but that's the price of not planning ahead. Overpaying means giving money to guys like Nick Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 5 hours ago, sparky151 said: He's easily affordable. But if we're going to pay big money for a DT, he needs to provide good pass rush as well as run stopping. Seattle had a poor defense last year which didn't much improve after their offseason spending binge and trade for Williams. I'd rather get Madubuike or Wilkins. Madulbulie will be more expensive and Wilkns will re-sign imo. Shame if they pass on Williams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 11 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Shame if they pass on Williams Why? What am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 50 minutes ago, spicoli said: Why? What am I missing? A quality DT to improve the Dline. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 3 hours ago, spicoli said: What NT is it that they’re supposed to overpay for exactly? There is no one hitting the FA market that’s even remotely close to being in the same league as DJ Reader. Of course there's not but the hope is the draft pick eventually lives up to that. All they need from a FA is to not be a liability while that draft pick gets up to speed. Seems obvious that a rookie is probably not going to hit the ground running as an every-down starter in the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Griever Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 At the bottom of the list is the Bengals...are those F...Minuses?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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