dex Posted May 29, 2024 Report Posted May 29, 2024 Kickoff returns are going to look very different this year. Even the players aren't sure how much it could affect games. From Geoff Hobson: MONEY MAC REACT: With players able to line up opposite each other for the first time, Tuesday was also the first day everyone could see in person just how jarringly different the new kickoff rule is. "It doesn't feel too much like football," said Bengals kicker Evan McPherson. "But I'm sure it will." The receiving team and coverage teams lined up five yards from each other at the receiving team's 35-line yard line while the kicker lined up at his 35. He can't cross the 50 until the ball touches the ground or a player in the last 20 yards or the end zone. The other ten can't move until the ball hits the ground or player in the last 20 yards or the end zone. Plus, a kick in or out of the end zone is now penalized and moved to the receiving team's 30. McPherson is certain he can adjust, even though on Tuesday he attacked kickoffs the exact opposite of the way he's done it his entire life. Now, instead of booming, he's shortened his stride and chipping it inside the 5 to the corners. "It's definitely interesting. It brings a lot of placement into play. It's all touch. It feels weird for me," McPherson said. "I'm used to kicking it as high as I can, as hard as I can. Now I have to throw it inside to the 5-yard line in specific areas. It's definitely an adjustment. You have to play the wind a lot more now."
Griever Posted May 29, 2024 Author Report Posted May 29, 2024 9 minutes ago, dex said: "It's definitely interesting. It brings a lot of placement into play. It's all touch. It feels weird for me," McPherson said. "I'm used to kicking it as high as I can, as hard as I can. Now I have to throw it inside to the 5-yard line in specific areas. It's definitely an adjustment. You have to play the wind a lot more now." This is an interesting point he made. Kickoff results could vary wildly from an outside stadium w/ some inclement weather versus an enclosed structure...
Cricket Posted May 29, 2024 Report Posted May 29, 2024 I’m thinking that those teams with a really strong defense might opt to just kick it into the end zone every time, give the opponent the ball at their 30, and avoid the chances for a long return all together. I guess we’ll see how teams’ tactics change through the preseason and into the first few weeks of the season.
T-Dub Posted May 29, 2024 Report Posted May 29, 2024 40 minutes ago, Griever said: The collar and chains are giving a real "we talkin bout practice?" vibe.. This guy gave up more QB pressures than any other LT last season. I want to see him hitting the sleds like Mims not standing around cheesing.
texbengal Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 17 hours ago, T-Dub said: The collar and chains are giving a real "we talkin bout practice?" vibe.. This guy gave up more QB pressures than any other LT last season. I want to see him hitting the sleds like Mims not standing around cheesing. 100%; he needs to be significantly better. He said all the right things, and continues to. But his play needs to catch up to his talk. Maybe not a great comparison but he's similar to Sam Adams in that way... impressive to listen to, but...
T-Dub Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 10 hours ago, texbengal said: 100%; he needs to be significantly better. He said all the right things, and continues to. But his play needs to catch up to his talk. Maybe not a great comparison but he's similar to Sam Adams in that way... impressive to listen to, but... Trent Brown has played a lot of LT and been pretty good at it. There's no red shirt on Mims. If he's who they say he is I don't see him sitting the bench all year. This time last year I thought a combination of OBJr, Jonah, Collins & Carman would yield 2 good OT's. At this point I'm hoping there's at least one on the depth chart.
Mikeslumina Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 Anyone got pics of burrow with wrap on his wrist? Hopefully just taking day off icing it. I read about it on x but can’t find pics.
Mikeslumina Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 I been digging thru videos only thing I can find is this. It shows joe shaking his hand.They are doing some ranking, I guess a swag. It’s probably nothing but you can see joe shaking his wrist looking down at his hand. He might have just wrapped it for his off day hopefully.
dex Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/29/2024 at 11:04 AM, dex said: Kickoff returns are going to look very different this year. Even the players aren't sure how much it could affect games. From Geoff Hobson: MONEY MAC REACT: With players able to line up opposite each other for the first time, Tuesday was also the first day everyone could see in person just how jarringly different the new kickoff rule is. "It doesn't feel too much like football," said Bengals kicker Evan McPherson. "But I'm sure it will." The receiving team and coverage teams lined up five yards from each other at the receiving team's 35-line yard line while the kicker lined up at his 35. He can't cross the 50 until the ball touches the ground or a player in the last 20 yards or the end zone. The other ten can't move until the ball hits the ground or player in the last 20 yards or the end zone. Plus, a kick in or out of the end zone is now penalized and moved to the receiving team's 30. McPherson is certain he can adjust, even though on Tuesday he attacked kickoffs the exact opposite of the way he's done it his entire life. Now, instead of booming, he's shortened his stride and chipping it inside the 5 to the corners. "It's definitely interesting. It brings a lot of placement into play. It's all touch. It feels weird for me," McPherson said. "I'm used to kicking it as high as I can, as hard as I can. Now I have to throw it inside to the 5-yard line in specific areas. It's definitely an adjustment. You have to play the wind a lot more now." Following up on the new kickoff rules madness: Read that Kansas City is considering having safety Justin Reid so that Harrison Butker would not be put at injury risk having to make tackles. At Cincinnati's open OTA workout one of the media reporters (forgot which one) mentioned that punter Austin McNamara was practicing doing kickoffs along with McPherson. Thought it was odd at the time, but now it makes more sense when you realize that McNamara is much bigger than McPherson. McNamara is experienced at doing kickoffs having done it a ton in HS as well as some in college too.
sparky151 Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if some teams carry a kickoff specialist as a separate roster spot. The new kickoff rules call for a different skill set than making field goals and extra points. Apart from the kicker having to make tackles, you'll want someone who kicks it shorter than usual. Unless the other team's return game is so good, you just want to give them the 30 on a touchback. The KC special teams coach said in the XFL, the kicker was involved on the tackle between 25 and 40% of kickoffs. That seems high but if the NFL is like that, we definitely don't want McPherson involved.
|BlackJesus| Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 13 minutes ago, dex said: McNamara is much bigger than McPherson. Money Mac is here to kick clutch FGs and he's too valuable now to risk with this absurd new kickoff. So I agree with having the 6'4 McNamara do it. Or hell, if they can teach someone like CTB to pooch kick, that could also give them an edge.
T-Dub Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 15 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: Money Mac is here to kick clutch FGs and he's too valuable now to risk with this absurd new kickoff. So I agree with having the 6'4 McNamara do it. Or hell, if they can teach someone like CTB to pooch kick, that could also give them an edge. The way he described it did sound more like a punt, didn't it? Mixed with a Wall of Death IDFK but it def sounded brokedick. I think they've lost the plot with the whole kickoff thing, no clue what they're trying to make happen at this point.
Le Tigre Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 24 minutes ago, T-Dub said: The way he described it did sound more like a punt, didn't it? Mixed with a Wall of Death IDFK but it def sounded brokedick. I think they've lost the plot with the whole kickoff thing, no clue what they're trying to make happen at this point. Like with everything else NFL…this will be another rule change to make insane officiating calls. The Gene S’s of the television world will have the times of their lives.
sparky151 Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 The idea is to put kickoff returns back in the game without the high speed collisions. My guess is we'll see lots of TDs on returns this year as it doesn't take much of a gap to break a long return. The Bengals unfortunately don't seem to have much of stable of kick returners.
|BlackJesus| Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 It could be worth putting Ja'Marr back there for returns if the play is basically a glorified offensive sweep and race to a seam.
dex Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 3 minutes ago, Griever said: OTAs run from Monday through Thursday of next week. The first open workout will be Tuesday, also media day. Not sure if Wednesday and Thursday are open workouts or not. However, all 3 days of mandatory minicamp the following week will be open to the media and public,
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