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Good news. He's been pretty solid despite Pollack's coaching/schemes & I doubt a late 7th round pick was going to be ready to take over any time soon. Lucky to get a serviceable backup that late in the draft.

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2 hours ago, T-Dub said:

Good news. He's been pretty solid despite Pollack's coaching/schemes & I doubt a late 7th round pick was going to be ready to take over any time soon. Lucky to get a serviceable backup that late in the draft.

 

 

Odds are usually stacked against late-rounders, but then Ted was a 6th round pick so who knows?

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11 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

Odds are usually stacked against late-rounders, but then Ted was a 6th round pick so who knows?

Did not realize that about Ted and good point for Lee.

 

I think I can safely say that it is time for Trey Hill to find his life's work.

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1 hour ago, High School Harry said:

Did not realize that about Ted and good point for Lee.

 

I think I can safely say that it is time for Trey Hill to find his life's work.

 

I have seen a few different Bengals talking heads that are not paid by the team say they really liked the pick, so well see I guess.

 

Used car sales here he comes. 

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2 hours ago, High School Harry said:

Did not realize that about Ted and good point for Lee.

 

I think I can safely say that it is time for Trey Hill to find his life's work.

How good is Tre Hill?

Backup center to a guy who never misses a snap.

 

I know nothing about his NFL abilities to date.

 

Drafting another center would lead one to believe he's on the block but I've never seen enough of his play to make a decision.

 

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16 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

How good is Tre Hill?

Backup center to a guy who never misses a snap.

 

I know nothing about his NFL abilities to date.

 

Drafting another center would lead one to believe he's on the block but I've never seen enough of his play to make a decision.

 

 

 

Yeah that's a part of it too isnt it, the complains about Hill are weird when Ted almost never misses a snap, so how can anyone know what we have in Hill?

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1 hour ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

Yeah that's a part of it too isnt it, the complains about Hill are weird when Ted almost never misses a snap, so how can anyone know what we have in Hill?

 

Hill has played in preseason and garbage time. He isn't good. That's why they left Karras in after getting hurt vs Buffalo. He was still better on one leg than Hill. 

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On 6/13/2024 at 6:54 AM, Griever said:

 

 

so his podcast is just his twitter in long form, as i was bitching in my podcast post. this which former bengals would make the best mayor of cincy was a 5 minutes bit on the podcast, it was stupid as fuck. they talk about shit like its marvel fan fiction. 

 

On 6/13/2024 at 8:43 AM, JC said:

Just awesome. Obviously takes two to tango and he probably could made more on the open market, but seems like he opted to bypass that and try to win a Super Bowl here.

 

He could probably make a ton of money in coaching one day. 

 

i wonder what he is worth, its probably not far off, but it only takes one team willing to overpay.

 

On 6/13/2024 at 9:34 AM, HereSince68 said:

This gives the new kid, 7th rd pick Matt Lee, more time to develop - or not...

 

the oline is the most complicated group on the field, the weakest link is a strong indicator of the ceiling of success for the entire group, an interior weak link, makes both players next to him worse, and requires schemes to plan for the poor play or lack of ability. then throw in injuries and subs and shit goes downhill fast. you can have a squad with 4 guys who are killers one on one ahd have to play zone because of one player, taking everyone out of their strength.  trying to watch the development or growth of a 7th round 2nd-3rd string center is nearly impossible. would love to be in the film and meeting rooms for those guys.

 

On 6/13/2024 at 1:30 PM, Jamie_B said:

 

 

Yeah a misread on my part

 

poorly written, i thought the same. 

 

On 6/13/2024 at 5:52 PM, T-Dub said:

Good news. He's been pretty solid despite Pollack's coaching/schemes & I doubt a late 7th round pick was going to be ready to take over any time soon. Lucky to get a serviceable backup that late in the draft.

 

lol.

 

here are the draft rounds of all 32 starting centers last year, as i was curious: 2, 6, 5, 1, 1, U, 2, 2, 6, 6, 2, 4, 4, 2, 2, 1, 6, U, 2, 1, U, 3, U, 4, 3, 3, U, U, 4, 2, 2, 2, U

 

so...

1st round - 4 - 12.5%

2nd Round - 10 - 32%

3rd round - 3 - 9.3%

4th Round - 4 - 12.5%

5th Round - 1 - 3%

6th - 4 - 12.5%

7th - 0 - 0%

Undrafted - 6 - 18.8%

 

obviously a snapshot in time last years line ups, but ther are more undrafted starting centers than there are any round other than 2nd round. interesting data.

 

On 6/13/2024 at 8:01 PM, Jamie_B said:

 

 

Odds are usually stacked against late-rounders, but then Ted was a 6th round pick so who knows?

 

pulled the data above becuase i was curious, probably a rare group for that position, but they are all over the place, a huge number undrafted.

 

On 6/14/2024 at 10:03 AM, claptonrocks said:

How good is Tre Hill?

Backup center to a guy who never misses a snap.

 

I know nothing about his NFL abilities to date.

 

Drafting another center would lead one to believe he's on the block but I've never seen enough of his play to make a decision.

 

 

this same logic goes towards coaches, especially pollack, we dont know the scheme, i mean i can promise he isnt calling a scheme that calls for Volson to get throw around like a ragdoll by the lions 3rd teamers, but thats the performance he was given. 

 

On 6/14/2024 at 10:20 AM, Jamie_B said:

 

 

Yeah that's a part of it too isnt it, the complains about Hill are weird when Ted almost never misses a snap, so how can anyone know what we have in Hill?

 

fans logic:

 

team lose? yes

coach bad, players bad, coordinators bad, must fire.

reality isnt important.

 

On 6/14/2024 at 11:38 AM, sparky151 said:

 

Hill has played in preseason and garbage time. He isn't good. That's why they left Karras in after getting hurt vs Buffalo. He was still better on one leg than Hill. 

 

one could also say.... hill has played in garbage time with garbage teammates and no scheme per se since they dont play together much, so its a tough judge, other positions are easier, bad throws, bad reads, but he could give up a sack and it be the linemen next to hims bad read on responsabilities but he looks dumb or bad. its tough. really was hill plowed over? falling down" holding? offsides? our scope of judgement is limited.

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