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When in doubt go with the older player IMO. The younger guys can come in later.

Bengals by 10+. I don't think Dallas is going to be good this year. They always seem to lose big games too. I see the Bengals winning this one 35-20 or something to that affect. I think the Bengals are going to be the #1 scoring offence this year too.

Eh...it's his career. Players don't have many avenues to pressure owners to deal. I harbor no ill will toward Bates for playing hardball, but I also realize the Brown family has paid their own players generously in the past. This has to be about guaranteed money. Bates' agent got the Deshaun Watson deal, so I suppose we're gonna see a dance.

Look how well he squeezes a ketchup bottle. Always a good sign. Or so I've been told.

Dax was the goal all along ...

I really think he gonna end being a steal pick.

Remember that those numbers don’t make any indication regarding what’s between the ears. But, it does look like the team is well set to handle losing Bates.

Bates might want to sign whatever deal the Bengals gave him, before they realize Dax is better.

I haven't been here as long as most, but I'll weigh in. I'm a creature of habit and I'm used to the site as is. I rarely stray from the Bengals topics and can navigate around pretty easily to see what interests me. So, I wouldn't change a thing. and Mem............love your stuff! I don't do twitter so you keep me up to date there - thanks!

I recently saw the following article on Profootballtalk and was surprised it didn't recieve more response / feedback here. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/05/14/mike-brown-took-a-stand-against-rams-leaving-st-louis/ Obviously Mike Brown's competence related to both: 1. Football operations and decision making. & 2. (Genuine) committment to winning over the years (see 90's) can undoubtedly be questioned. One thing that I don't think can be is his loyalty....often to the detriment of the team and organisation. At the same time as much sh*t as he takes for constantly being "the fly in the NFL ointment" I kinda "dig" that he often stands for "old school" values and ideals. The article above is an example of that and ???? surely bodes well for the Bengal long term future in Cincinnati. Opinions?

Don’t stop doing what you’re doing. Almost all of us really do appreciate your efforts.

There is an alternate reality in some level of hyperspace where Burrow does get that pass off and Chase catches the ball wide open and walks into the end zone and it goes down as the greatest play in Super Bowl history. I can see and hear it vividly in my mind. Absolute pandemonium in the stadium. They would likely call it "the check" and it would surpass "the catch" by Dwight Clark or whatever that bullshit groundball play is by Franco Harris. Painful to think about though. Hopefully it fuels Shiesty to do it again next season.

How else could they keep a bunch of stealer fan assholes from voting?

it prevents it from just being a social media popularity contest. only youngest players would get in otherwise.

I don’t begrudge bates for trying. I do think it’s misplaced. I am glad bengals had a good plan in place. I would guess he will show up before third preseason game. Maybe see him on field by regular season week 3. don’t care. This team is bigger than all the players except one. And bates ain’t that one.

finally got these both back.

All of the media bullshit is speculation. Soon enough, because he hasn’t been a good lad and happily showed up for voluntary workouts with no contract, he’ll become the Devil incarnate to everyone. Business, it’s business. And it’s a dance. Each side knows it, and it will resolve.

Definitely in the top 5 ...

I was thinking 15 years in federal prison being Bubba and Billy Joe Bob's girlfriend.

Dude needs to be careful what he wishes for.

We went from Walter White to Heisenberg in about 1 season. WE are the danger. WE are the one who knocks.

All well and good but I have one of those jobs where if I ain't there, I ain't paid. And I'm a greedy kind of guy. So I will just bitch about it and go in. A though day at work is a small price to pay for a Bengals game.

yea but no one cares, hell i barely care, i totally get all the checkpoints and neat little connections and facts and itll be a big game for those local fans. but national tv wise. no one cares. all of the connections and stuff doesnt make the matchup any better, there is no connection between the teams, different division, hell different conference, and one team is pretty bad. i am like 1% more excited about the saints game than i am about the jets game, just to see if a decent amount of fans have bengals stuff on locally. you need national nfl fans to: 1. even care about college football, at all. 2. care who won the national championship 3 years ago. 3. and then care that two stars from that college, 75 miles from this nfl team, is playing against that nfl team. IMO youre slicing off like 25% of national audience caring with each one of those things. again, i think its cool, and will be neat, but some bears fan or broncos fan isnt going to give 2 shits about that game whether our boys went to LSU and got a ring or not. just my opinion after hearing some talking heads bring it up. 95% of people who will care are either going or going to watch it no matter when its on.. so no gain putting it on primetime.

thats where your messing up, gotta call off work the next day, sleep in, get up and rewatch the win. thats what my kid said man that would be an incredibly exciting game. bengals social media has improved so much the last few years, minus that fucking youtube schedule release video today. bengals fan in front of me talked shit about fat randy all playoff game, local fans didnt really realize he was a former bengals aside from one or two, but there was a overwhelming sense of "just run the clock and lets get to OT" vs him trying a 50+ yarder FG, like no one was hoping or expecting him to even give that a shot if they got there. offtopic: sat in that parking lot for over an hour waiting to get out, my son and i just laughing at all the titans fans fighting eachother and having a very bad time. that arthur meme is for the ages. i have tiny fucking hands, and a former co worker who has huge fucking hands would put it in company chat at work whenever i was pissed about something. still funny.

this confirms what the dude was saying about thanksgiving and MNF and SNF games, to maximize ratings, those games all get watched roughly the same no matter who is playing, and for the 1pm and 4pm slot, rating will spike much higher for a killer matchup, so if youre getting 10-15 million viewers SNF and MNF either way, but can turn a 4pm slot from 3 million to 12 million viewers, thats a huge win.

absolutely no one cares about that game except some local saints fans who are LSU fans, a school 75 miles away, bengals fans really could care less that the game more than any other, they have no tie to LSU, or the saints. ... "this matchuo is neat but has absolutely no national appeal" is what someone said, i forget who. and they are right when i thought about it.. "HERE WE ARE, MONDAY NIGHT< WHERE TWO GUYS....PLAYED COLLEGE AT A COLLEGE NEARBY HERE...... to play an unrelated nfl team" - the announcer. * shruggs*

Soft front half, brutal back half

I'm not deeply into the scene or anything, but from what I've stumbled on these guys are mainly tied to the MMA world... they've had some incredible "gets" in that space (Khabib), and as we know Joe seems to enjoy MMA and made a rather public appearance at an event so I assume it all came out of that.

well if his agent is pushing for guaranteed money , there are 12.9 million guaranteed dollars waiting for him , all he has to do is sign it..

Perhaps but publicly the team said they will likely have to change the way they do contracts for Joe Burrow. They didn't say that about Jessie Bates.

100% For better or worse. Still though…kid is absolutely getting paid. So..

dunno. doesn't matter. If his agent thinks threatening to sit out will move the needle, well, his agent is wrong. His only choice will be to eventually sign the tender and play this year. I guess he could fully sit out, but that would be surprising to me. I mean, 13 million is...well...13 million. The good news is I won't have to stress about it. They have a replacement plan ready to go.

I knew you'd probably get to this before me Mem. Looking forward to hearing from Joe

Headed to NO with a group. I’m up to meeting up with those from the group. Although we won’t play golf with LeTigre. He should be a pro!!!

The only way I can see that happening is if Harris and/or Huber "retire" before the start of the season. Not taking the punter in the draft was a vote of confidence for OSU Drue and the long snapper is being portrayed as the Mother Teresa of football.

Yes