B.A.B. Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 If thats the case, then I say we wait until after next year. He keeps up the production, we lock him up before he goes apeshit during his contract year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coup000 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1326337673' post='1088815'] Can someone tell me a non-qb that got signed to a long term deal like that after 2 years? [/quote] Robert Geathers signed a 6 year extension after 3 years in the league, 2 years before he would be a unrestricted free agent. Andrew Whitworth drafted in 2006 signed an extension before the 2008 season. That's 2 on our own team. Ready to admit it is a common practice yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coup000 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='B.A.B.' timestamp='1326337900' post='1088819'] If thats the case, then I say we wait until after next year. He keeps up the production, we lock him up before he goes apeshit during his contract year. [/quote] You wait until next year and it will take a huge bonus because his agent will be in his ear talking about only having to wait 12 months for a huge payday. Sign him now and you have the time value of money working for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='coup000' timestamp='1326338101' post='1088820'] Robert Geathers signed a 6 year extension after 3 years in the league, 2 years before he would be a unrestricted free agent. Andrew Whitworth drafted in 2006 signed an extension before the 2008 season. That's 2 on our own team. Ready to admit it is a common practice yet? [/quote] Ill give you Whit, but you sure you want to use Gathers as your example? He's been pretty average since signing that deal.[quote name='Lewdog' timestamp='1326337813' post='1088818'] I'm thinking they do it in the middle of next year...so technically it will be during his third year. They'll have to do it before a certain point so that they can put Cap money on the up coming year instead of future years. It would be really smart to do, because if AJ and Dalton continue doing what they are, they will eventually eat a lot of cap soon. [/quote] Yeah I could see them doing it midseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='dabengals12' timestamp='1326335997' post='1088800'] [b]So with that logic, keep him unhappy for another season?[/b] Then it festers all next offseason, then he says tata. Do you think that we are the ones seeing the All Pro hype? What happens when a player outperforms his contract and is made to wait? You get a disgruntled player who will use any little injury to sit out extended stretches to bide their time to get to FA... ala Forte. Correction... We are the only ones... [/quote] why do you assume he's upset now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Montana Bengal' timestamp='1326336951' post='1088809'] I read somewhere else suggesting Steinbach could come back. I can't remember...maybe Reedy? Did he leave on bad terms? [/quote] John Thornton suggested signing Steinbach if he were to be cut, and is healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coup000 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I wasn't arguing that signing Geathers was the best decision we've ever made just that it is a fairly common practice. And Geathers was a pass rush specialist who was turned into a starter after he signed. Geno played significant snaps this year and his play didn't drop off at all, it may have even improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1326337673' post='1088815'] Can someone tell me a non-qb that got signed to a long term deal like that after 2 years? [/quote] Chad got an extension in 2003, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1326338588' post='1088826'] John Thornton suggested signing Steinbach if he were to be cut, and is healthy. [/quote] That's right! Thanks....I knew I wasn't going crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='scharm' timestamp='1326338780' post='1088829'] Chad got an extension in 2003, I think. [/quote] Wasnt that done mid year? The OP is talking about doing it now, which was my point of contention. I have no issue if done mid-year if he's still playing at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange 'n Black Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Carson also got his big extension at the end of the 05 regular season, after 2 seasons of play. It's not out of character at all for this team to pay its premier guys. That said, Geno will probably get his due at some point this coming season - doubtful in this offseason. Whit, Geathers, Peko, and Hall all got re-upped with years left on their deals. I wouldn't be surprised to see Carlos and Gresham in the mix for extensions either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Geno "sackin" Atkins. I just came up with that. You guys can use it anytime you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='scharm' timestamp='1326339342' post='1088835'] Geno [b]Sackins[/b]. I just came up with that. You guys can use it anytime you want. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColorChanginClique Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Eric Steinbach was pretty damn good. Kind of a beast in comparison to the Guards we ended the season with Hmm.....I'd love him to come back if he's healthy and can play at the same level he has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsOwn Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='coup000' timestamp='1326338101' post='1088820'] Robert Geathers signed a 6 year extension after 3 years in the league, 2 years before he would be a unrestricted free agent. [/quote] That went well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coup000 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='BengalsOwn' timestamp='1326340522' post='1088844'] That went well [/quote] God, you're a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Lewdog' timestamp='1326337067' post='1088811'] I don't think so. Just was too big of a contract for Mike Brown to match. Besides Steiny loves him some Budweiser and Ohio River fish'n! [/quote] Oh for criissake. We had FOUR Offensive line players to resign that year. Somebody was going to get squeezed out. Steiny was the least valuable, and thus was let move on. This is why you stagger your contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsOwn Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='coup000' timestamp='1326340578' post='1088845'] God, you're a moron. [/quote] So, I take it that you think signing Robert Geathers to a long term deal, after he had one good year, has been proven to be a smart move? The Robert Geathers contract should be a reason why you don't do it. Same with the Ocho contract. And Palmer's deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I'd bet that they re-up him during the season. I think they will wait on Carlos to see if he can stay healthy for a full season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsfan850 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 from what i understand steinbach was underwhelming even in his last healthy years, i'll pass on that ass hat, lets draft new blood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kochman Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='bengalsfan850' timestamp='1326347416' post='1088864'] from what i understand steinbach was underwhelming even in his last healthy years, i'll pass on that ass hat, lets draft new blood [/quote] X2 All I heard on Cleveland AM radio was how bad he played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalBengalEd Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='BengalsOwn' timestamp='1326340522' post='1088844'] That went well [/quote] Geathers is terrible. The next big play he makes will be the first. Geno looks like a stud though sign him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maanster Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 We can't afford to lose Pat Sims, Jon Fanane and Frostee Rucker. All three are free agents this year. Clearing geathers big salary would go a long way in locking them up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='BengalsOwn' timestamp='1326341218' post='1088852'] So, I take it that you think signing Robert Geathers to a long term deal, after he had one good year, has been proven to be a smart move? The Robert Geathers contract should be a reason why you don't do it. Same with the Ocho contract. And Palmer's deal. [/quote] I do. Starter on a good defense for multiple seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1326339944' post='1088839'] Geno [b]Sackins[/b].[/quote] Sounds too much like he teabags quarterbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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