CougarQuest Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1335549914' post='1123831'] I didnt say he couldnt pull, I said DD is better at it. [/quote] Better at pulling what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueridge Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='CougarQuest' timestamp='1335558100' post='1123970'] Just because Hobson put this on the Bengals.com site doesn't mean the Bengals coaches even knew that report existed, much less made any decision based on that report. [/quote] Even so, it just confirms what a great pick Zeitler was and that the Bengals were right to grade him higher than DeCastro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [b] OL Zeitler didn't allow sack in three seasons[/b] [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/team/CIN"][img]http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/nfl/logos/50x50/CIN.png[/img][/url] [b]5 minutes ago[/b] - by Paul Dehner Jr. [size=1] [/size] Most scouts pointed out Bengals first-round selection OG Kevin Zeitler has strength as a run-blocking guard in the Wisconsin scheme, however, he didn't allow a single sack in the last three seasons. "From a mental standpoint, it will be an easy transition," offensive coordinator Jay Gruden said. "From a technique standpoint it will be an easy transition." [size=1] [/size] [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/team/CIN"]Cincinnati Bengals RapidReports[/url] | [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports"]All National Football League RapidReports[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Dr Tarzan' timestamp='1335552011' post='1123879'] No, it has been quite justified.....I've given him credit when it was due...there [b]were[/b] games he played well, but just as many games he played like shit--not average or just OK--like total stinky, steaming dog-shit. Glad he's gone. [/quote] No it hasn't. He's still in the NFL. I assume by the deal he was given that he'll be in the run for a starting position. Like him or hate him Livings has certainly exceeded the NFL life expectations of UDFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CougarQuest Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='sparky151' timestamp='1335554505' post='1123916'] What else is he going to say? They're celebrating in Pittsburgh. Is he going to come out and say "we hoped DeCastro would still be on the board at 27. He wasn't and we're crushed but we hope the consolation prize will work out ok" [/quote] You'll notice the Bengals did not say that Dre was their highest rated CB nor even their 2nd highest rated CB. What was said was they had 3 CB rated for the first round and Dre was the last one available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CougarQuest Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='JC' timestamp='1335556028' post='1123942'] You go out and get Travelle Wharton and Kevin Zeitler. Give those guys a home-run threat to block for now! WHO-DEY! [/quote] Good off season so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='blueridge' timestamp='1335558675' post='1123982'] He wouldn't say it if he didn't believe it. If they are celebrating in Pittsburgh just because they drafted DeCastro, then people in In that shitty city are idiots. Bengals have a better O-line, O-line coach, and history of drafting O-lineman. If they preferred Zeitler to DeCastro - and they wouldnt have been the only team to do so-then they made the brilliant move to get their man and an extra pick. And, forgive me, but any person on this board who dismisses Zeitler as a "consolation prize" is a boot-licking jackass. And your pathetic love for DeCastro is ridiculous. [/quote] +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/18862759"]Intelligent OL Zeitler fits in up front[/url] by Paul Dehner Jr., CBSSports.com The Bengals employ cerebral offensive linemen, specifically C Kyle Cook and LT Andrew Whitworth . First-round selection Kevin Zeitler scored an exceptional 40 on the Wunderlic test, adding to the intelligent mix. "They're a lot smarter than I am," OC Jay Gruden said. "It's pretty disturbing, actually. Very comforting that they are smart, but will be more comforting when they actually block the guy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='oldschooler' timestamp='1335561019' post='1124019'] [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/18862759"]Intelligent OL Zeitler fits in up front[/url] by Paul Dehner Jr., CBSSports.com The Bengals employ cerebral offensive linemen, specifically C Kyle Cook and LT Andrew Whitworth . First-round selection Kevin Zeitler scored an exceptional 40 on the Wunderlic test, adding to the intelligent mix. "They're a lot smarter than I am," OC Jay Gruden said. "It's pretty disturbing, actually. Very comforting that they are smart, but will be more comforting when they actually block the guy." [/quote] I like Jay. That's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Numbers' timestamp='1335558136' post='1123972'] Akili Smith had a 37 on his Wonderlic. Yes, I realize he scored a 12 the first time he took the test. Craig Krenzel (38) Drew Henson (42) Brian Griese (39) The point is that Wonderlic defines how well a person can take a test but not how well it translates into an NFL career. In regards to Lapham's comment on Zeitler's "football IQ, attitude, versatility and ability to play center...." Is this based upon a portion of his Wonderlic score ? Perhaps a personal interview conducted by Lapham himself ? Versatility in that he can also play Center ? Lapham is basing versatility on what ? Look at Zeitler's record while in college. I think he might be ok but I am not seeing the versatility Lapham claims. He played pretty much only at Right Guard his entire time at Wisconsin. It's not just one thing, it is a host of issues with this pick. The talk is almost preprogrammed on autodial/autopilot. Almost script like. The tune the coaches are singing is one of a pick we got and not what was missed out on. No sense in crying about what could have been and instead celebrate what we have. No reason to complain I guess. We're stuck with this decision for a few years and for better or worse he is a Bengal now. Hopefully this kid can live up to the hype given to him by numerous posters here on this board. Other than what has already been said, I will join around the campfire and sing kumbaya with the rest of the group... [/quote] Clearly someone else didn't read the 30 page scouting report I listed demonstrating, by looking at stats, that this guy was not just the best Guard to come out the last three years, but one of the best O-Lineman to come out of college football in the last 20. Please go read it, then get back to us. I know, I know, I'm becoming a broken record and I'll stop. But watching his clips plus reading that report, well, how could you not be thrilled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcat Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='oldschooler' timestamp='1335561019' post='1124019'] [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/18862759"]Intelligent OL Zeitler fits in up front[/url] by Paul Dehner Jr., CBSSports.com The Bengals employ cerebral offensive linemen, specifically C Kyle Cook and LT Andrew Whitworth . First-round selection Kevin Zeitler scored an exceptional 40 on the Wunderlic test, adding to the intelligent mix. "They're a lot smarter than I am," OC Jay Gruden said. "It's pretty disturbing, actually. Very comforting that they are smart, but will be more comforting when they actually block the guy." [/quote] [quote name='Oldcat' timestamp='1335562327' post='1124037'] I like Jay. That's funny. [/quote] Agreed. That was very funny! And are not Oline usually the most intelligent guys as a position group year in year out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Yeah, O-line and QB are the most mental positions in terms of analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='CougarQuest' timestamp='1335558658' post='1123981'] Exactly. I don't get the name calling to fellow Bengal fans during the draft. I've seen it several times the past 24 hours. What a bunch of dumb fucks bwaaahahahahahahaha [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [b][color=#FF3300][size=6]Zeitlergeist[/size][/color] should start week 1. [/b] [b]A starting RG was our #1 need imo going into the draft. [/b] [b]It wasn't my first choice (Glenn), but after researching it I like it. [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 alleycat, I love the enthusiasm. Keep it up! Go Zeitler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nati Ice Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='BlackJesus' timestamp='1335567904' post='1124132'] [b][color=#FF3300][size=6]Zeitlergeist[/size][/color] should start week 1. [/b] [b]A starting RG was our #1 need imo going into the draft. [/b] [b]It wasn't my first choice (Glenn), but after researching it I like it. [/b] [/quote] The board needs more of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I also heard this guy saved a box full of kittens from a burning building on the 5th story without using a ladder, the steps, or the elevator, all before arriving at the NFL draft dressed and ready to enter the Green room without a drop of sweat. That had to make him a high pick than DeCastro alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Just reported Decastro thought milli vanilli really sung on the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Oldcat' timestamp='1335554177' post='1123909'] The fact that we risked losing DDC by trading down shows that even if he was our #1, it wasn't by much. [/quote] agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='B.A.B.' timestamp='1335554211' post='1123910'] If Decastro was their top rated guard, don't you think we would have stayed put and grabbed him? [/quote] no. and now it's time to move on, young man. that SOB is a stealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Mel Kiper Jr. just reported that Zeitler was so versatile he was the man behind the mask on all of the Scream movies including the funny ones. So he can kill people and be funny at the same time. I bet you didn't find that in his scouting report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Lewdog' timestamp='1335569823' post='1124196'] Mel Kiper Jr. just reported that Zeitler was so versatile he was the man behind the mask on all of the Scream movies including the funny ones. So he can kill people and be funny at the same time. I bet you didn't find that in his scouting report. [/quote] Page 27. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Just reported Decastro thinks horses are just bigger smarter dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='CougarQuest' timestamp='1335558658' post='1123981'] Exactly. I don't get the name calling to fellow Bengal fans during the draft. I've seen it several times the past 24 hours. What a bunch of dumb fucks bwaaahahahahahahaha [/quote] i'll admit to doing it, but the asshole begged for it before he brought it out of me, much as he always does. yeah, didn't accomplish much, but he got what he asked for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1335558813' post='1123988'] [b] OL Zeitler didn't allow sack in three seasons[/b] [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/team/CIN"][img]http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/nfl/logos/50x50/CIN.png[/img][/url] [b]5 minutes ago[/b] - by Paul Dehner Jr. Most scouts pointed out Bengals first-round selection OG Kevin Zeitler has strength as a run-blocking guard in the Wisconsin scheme, however, he didn't allow a single sack in the last three seasons. "From a mental standpoint, it will be an easy transition," offensive coordinator Jay Gruden said. "From a technique standpoint it will be an easy transition." [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/team/CIN"]Cincinnati Bengals RapidReports[/url] | [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports"]All National Football League RapidReports[/url] [/quote] bam, that's all we need. i'd put a little more meat on him (steady diet of steak and potatoes), keep him on the weights, work on his get off and refine his technical flaws...then get him ready for the season opener. like alexander said, i think he's going to win a lot of people over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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