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just watched the Detroit/Cleveland game.

 

 

I hope the offense is practicing hard counts.  Detroit DLinemen jumped offsides 3 times trying to time the snap.

 

 

Also, the Bengals need to be sure to keep their composure.  This is a very arrogant Detroit team that loves to trash talk and showboat.  Hopefully they learned their lesson from the Chicago game, which was also a similar type of team.

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just watched the Detroit/Cleveland game.

 

 

I hope the offense is practicing hard counts.  Detroit DLinemen jumped offsides 3 times trying to time the snap.

 

 

Also, the Bengals need to be sure to keep their composure.  This is a very arrogant Detroit team that loves to trash talk and showboat.  Hopefully they learned their lesson from the Chicago game, which was also a similar type of team.

Without the D-line talent though. Chicago has the overrated Peppers and that's it. Suh is a force but often defeats himself, so Cook better wear his big boy pants for this one.

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Without the D-line talent though. Chicago has the overrated Peppers and that's it. Suh is a force but often defeats himself, so Cook better wear his big boy pants for this one.

Ain't dat da troof...

 

Fairly evenly matched...

Lions at home...

Good at forcing turn overs...

 

A boy named Sue is under the microscope for being a cheap

shot dirty player which might work in our favor unless he kills

Andy or Gio.

 

Also want to watch for Bengal false starts which tend to happen

due to... anticipation?

 

Can Andy do a hard count to pull them offsides once in awhile?

 

Definitely not a game to play close and let up...

 

In many respects it may be the best game on the schedule.

At least to date.

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Morning Stripes: Versatile Bengals offense

 

October, 17, 2013
By Coley Harvey | ESPN.com

 

We've touched on the versatility the Cincinnati Bengals show in the passing game.

Quarterback Andy Dalton may have a favorite receiver in superstar A.J. Green, but as recent games have shown, he's far from being the only playmaker in the Bengals' complex offensive scheme. Marvin Jones, Mohamed Sanu, Tyler Eifert, Jermaine Gresham and Giovani Bernard have all played key roles in boosting Dalton's accuracy, yard-after-catch and touchdown numbers.

And apparently, the more those guys not named "Green" get the ball in places where they can score, the better things are for the Bengals.

What exactly do I mean? Well, you'll just have to read on a little further into this edition of the Morning Stripes:
  • We begin with a look at just how good the Bengals have been, from a record standpoint, since the start of last season when any combination of Jones, Sanu, Gresham or Bernard have caught touchdown passes. We took Eifert off that list because the rookie has yet to have his first touchdown reception. A big hat-tip to the Dayton Daily News' Jay Morrison for the find here. In a post on his blog, Morrison wrote that when any combination of the aforementioned four catches a touchdown pass, the Bengals are 9-1 since the start of last season. They are 3-0 when Sanu, Jones or Bernard score a touchdown. They are 4-1 when Gresham scores one. When A.J. Green catches a touchdown, they are 12-8. That's just more evidence about how this offense likes to distribute the ball.
  • Bernard is the pass-catcher among the group who has two of the more entertaining Bengals touchdown receptions of the season. The first of those scores came way back in Week 2 when he turned a corner and turned on the jets after catching a screen pass near the line of scrimmage and sprinted, untouched, for a 27-yard score. It was the first time a national audience had seen his speed in the NFL on full display. The second of those particular scores came last weekend, when he caught a shovel pass from Dalton and juked and swerved around defenders for a 20-yard touchdown reception at Buffalo. The way he plays is a lot like the running back Cincinnati's defense will see this weekend: Reggie Bush. Bengals.com's Geoff Hobson considers the Bernard-Bush battle to be one of the key matchups of Sunday's game between the Bengals and Lions.
  • FoxSports Ohio's Kevin Goheen has an interesting take on the Lions' habitual line-crosser, defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, and the need for Bengals linebacker Vontaze Burfict to avoid going down the same path as Suh, the Pro Bowl-caliber player who is known more for his post-play antics than his actual play. Suh was fined $31,500 on Wednesday for a late hit on Cleveland quarterback Brandon Weeden. Burfict earlier this season was fined $31,000 for two separate incidents in a game against the Packers, and he was slapped with three 15-yard penalties at Buffalo last weekend.
  • There's not much news in this link, but it's about Andy Dalton and it's on the New York Times' website, so I figured I would link it. The Bengals don't often lead the NFL roundup on the Times' site, so here you go. If Dalton can finally get that first-round-playoff-exit monkey off his back this January, you'll probably be seeing him not only on the Times' site, but in the newspaper a time or two more.
  • Speaking of Dalton, you surely heard Wednesday that he was named the AFC's Offensive Player of the Week. In case not, here it is from WXIX (Fox19) in Ohio. It's the second time he has claimed that honor and the third time he has received weekly recognition. He also received such acclaim his first year as he was deemed the conference's offensive rookie of the month in October 2011.

Bengals respect Suh, but wary of his antics

 

October, 16, 2013
By Coley Harvey | ESPN.com

 

CINCINNATI -- Andrew Whitworth, the outspoken Pro Bowl veteran and unofficial spokesman of the Cincinnati Bengals' offensive line, has the perfect solution for handling Detroit Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh and the post-play antics that have caused most around the NFL to consider him a dirty player.

When they face the 307-pounder and the rest of the intimidating defensive line that boasts two other first-round draft picks Sunday afternoon, Whitworth believes he and his teammates need to have one concern: block him.
"It doesn't matter the extra antics that he does. They don't help him win," Whitworth said. "What helps them win is if you are worried about him and everyone takes a shot on him. Some of the stuff you've seen makes you ask, what will teams do? But if you are worried about whether or not you can get a cheap shot in, too, then you are playing into their game.

"The truth is, we need to worry about stopping him from getting to the quarterback and blocking him in run plays and scoring points. It really doesn't matter what else he does."

The NFL certainly cares about what Suh does post whistle. On Wednesday, ESPN's Adam Schefter reported that Suh was fined for the seventh time of his four-year career for a hit on Cleveland quarterback Brandon Weeden last weekend. This time, Suh will be short $31,500, Schefter reported.

One of Suh's earliest fines came in August of 2011, when the NFL docked him $20,000 for a hit during a preseason game on Cincinnati's then-rookie quarterback Andy Dalton. The play in question came in the first quarter of Dalton's first game in a Bengals uniform. Suh broke past the offensive line, galloped into the backfield toward Dalton, and in one motion, grabbed the quarterback -- who had just gotten rid of the football -- around the neck, forcing his helmet to come off. Even as the helmet came dislodged, Suh's momentum continued, resulting in him picking up Dalton and slamming him, helmet-less, into the ground.

The Bengals remember the play quite well, but good luck getting any of them to talk about it this week. Many of them don't want to feed a story line that they don't think exists.

"He's a good player," Dalton said Wednesday, asked about the preseason hit. "He's an aggressive guy. He's a disruptive guy. So you've got to find ways to slow him down. You've got to do certain things because he's pretty good. We know where he's going to be, but it's a big challenge for us."

He had nothing else to say about the takedown.

Bengals center Kyle Cook, who was working on a double-team on another Lions defensive tackle when Suh ripped past and into Dalton two years ago, was similarly noncommittal when asked if Suh was a dirty player.

"He's a good player," Cook said, staying tight-lipped. "He's a good player."

Pushed a little further, Cook provided a slightly deeper answer.

"He plays with passion, obviously," Cook said. "Some people think his passion is stretched out at times to where he does some things that he probably wishes he didn't do but in the moment he thought were in the game."

Whether or not they are distressed about Suh's after-the-whistle play, the Bengals do truly seem to respect him.

"You are going to play lots of guys who have antics and a lot of that crap. It's going to happen," Whitworth said. "He happens to be a real good player who also has it so more people know him because of that. ... He's just a football player who plays the game intensely. You don't want him to take some cheap shot on you on an interception where you don't see him coming, but you can't really do anything about it. Truth is, let's just talk about blocking their guys and winning the football game."
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AP PhotoNdamukong Suh and Geno Atkins lead two of the league's best front fours.

The Detroit Lions have a chance to solidify themselves for a playoff push. So do theCincinnati Bengals. They may be in different conferences, but this game should be a good test for both teams as to where they stand in the larger picture of the NFL. 

Both teams lead their divisions, and both won on the road last week. And in the wacky world of the NFL, Detroit has beaten both teams Cincinnati has lost to (Chicago and Cleveland) while the Bengals have beaten one of the two teams the Lions lost to (Green Bay). 

As for this week’s game, Bengals reporter Coley Harvey and Lions reporter Michael Rothstein break down what should be an interesting matchup. 

Rothstein: Detroit's cornerbacks continue to either be banged up (starters Chris Houstonand Rashean Mathis) or really young (rookie Darius Slay). How much of a problem is A.J. Green going to pose in this situation? Does he feast on these matchups? 



Harvey: Given the Lions’ lack of experience and consistency at cornerback, that could be a problem for Detroit this weekend. Or maybe it will be a good thing. Here’s what I mean: Green does well when he’s going one-on-one against particular defensive backs, and he seems to relish having opportunities to expose both really good and really poor corners. Against Buffalo’s Leodis McKelvin on Sunday, Green caught six passes for 103 yards and a touchdown. He was targeted 11 times as the Bengals went more to their receivers than they had the week before. As good as McKelvin is, though, he’s no Charles Tillman, whom Green caught nine passes against in Week 1. He also isn’t Joe Haden, who allowed Green to catch seven balls but held him to just 51 yards in Cleveland three weeks ago. So Detroit having a revolving door at corner could be problematic since Green has had his opportunities against some of the league’s best this season. 

 

As far as the inexperience and inconsistency at the position being a good thing for the Lions, I say that because that might prompt Detroit to double-team Green. As we’ve seen this season, Green struggles when safeties are able to come over the top and help out in coverage against him. If double coverage ends up being a cornerstone of the Lions’ game plan, Green could have a tough day. 

We’ll stick with receivers, and I'll ask you, Michael, about Calvin Johnson. We know he’s hobbled a bit with that knee injury, but how much do you think he’s looking forward to squaring off with a guy like Green, who also is considered one of the game’s best receivers? 

Rothstein: Johnson seems to enjoy seeing other top receivers on the field, but he gets more excited to see topflight opposing cornerbacks like Patrick Peterson. For instance, he and Peterson swapped jerseys after their Week 2 game. 

His knee is a concern. He didn't quite look like himself against Cleveland on Sunday, dropping a couple of passes and not being his typical deep threat. But when he is out there, teams still have to pay extra attention to him because he is the top receiver in the game. 

Johnson's presence changes a lot, even if he can't go deep. Detroit can still use him on underneath routes, and he's still likely to draw the double-team or added attention, especially in the red zone. As long as he can do some things and run some routes, Johnson will be out there and making a difference. 

That leads me to this question -- how will Cincinnati's defense handle both the questionable health of Johnson combined with everything else Detroit's offense has to offer? 
 

Harvey: Cincinnati’s top corner, Leon Hall, likely will draw the bulk of reps against Johnson, even though, at 5-foot-11, he stands some six inches shorter than his 6-5 counterpart. It’ll be interesting to see how Hall and the other defensive backs handle the threat of the deep ball, assuming Johnson can run better and get underneath those passes this week. If he’s forced to go underneath, the Bengals feel confident their cover linebackers -- Rey MaualugaVontaze Burfict and Michael Boley -- and cover safety Taylor Mays can disrupt short- to intermediate-range passes. 

 

When it comes to stopping Reggie Bush in the run game, the Bengals have the type of defensive front that will make such a matchup intriguing. Last week, against the No. 3 rushing offense in the NFL, they gave up 130 yards on the ground but limited Fred Jackson to just 35 yards on 10 carries. With fewer big-play threats in the Lions backfield, the Bengals have to be glad they’re keying primarily on one running back this week. That said, it’ll be interesting to see what they do with linebacker James Harrison. He factored heavily in the run defense last week, but with the passing threat Detroit possesses, he likely won’t be on the field as much this week. 

Speaking of defensive players, Ndamukong Suh continues to be a disruptive force in the Lions’ interior. Statistically speaking, though, it seems he wasn’t very productive last week. Any idea what happened there, Michael? 

Rothstein: That hasn't been unusual. His numbers have not been astronomical, but he picks up double-teams on almost every play, it seems. So just the attention he draws assists everyone. There have been hurries that have led to interceptions as well. He is playing extremely well and very consistent. 

Has Andy Dalton said anything about Suh this week? They had a prior run-in, and a hit onBrandon Weeden last week is being looked at by the league. 

Harvey: Dalton was asked about the body slam Suh gave him during the 2011 preseason opener. But being the polite politician that he is, the quarterback didn’t show any ill will toward Suh. Quite the contrary, actually. Like several of his offensive linemen, Dalton simply called Suh a good player and credited the way he passionately plays the game. Though few linemen wanted to make the Dalton-Suh incident a storyline this week, they will have that play in the back of their minds, rest assured. 

Oh, and is there a week when the league isn’t looking at one of his hits? 

Final question for you, Michael. Why does Bush have only one rushing touchdown this year? Is that a function of being part of a good passing offense or something else? 

Rothstein: It’s a misleading number, Coley. He would have had two rushing touchdowns in Week 1, but both were reviewed and taken away at the 1-yard line. Joique Bell rushed both of them in instead. And he has two receiving touchdowns, so he is finding the end zone. Detroit is more of a passing team that likes to employ screens with its running backs, so that could be why those numbers look strange. But Bush is having a good season, no doubt. 
 

Predictions

The final word on Sunday's matchup at Ford Field:

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Coley Harvey: Cincinnati has to win on the road. Last week, it proved that it can. With a defense that's up to the challenge of stifling an offense full of offensive weapons, the Bengals just need to have another strong outing from Andy Dalton in order to win. They'll get it.
Bengals 24, Lions 23

 

Michael Rothstein: Went back and forth on this. A.J. Green is going to be a major factor and should beat up a banged-up Detroit secondary. But the Lions have played well for three of four halves at home this season, and Ford Field should be a raucous atmosphere with the Lions making a playoff push. A David Akersfield goal late is the difference.
Lions 31, Bengals 28

 

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I don't like the way the media is targeting Burfict.  He has had exactly one incident that was outside of the action, ie the ball tap,  everything else was him just trying to play a rough game hard.  No cheap shots, spears, just making jarring tackles that officials are suspicious of being illegal.  I can think of only one where I don't think I would debate as an infraction.  Every other one has been either marginal or completely bogus.

 

To put him in the same league or same breath as Suh is just stupid.  Almost all of his fines and infractions are just plain obvious, no brainer types.

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I also don't buy that the Suh-Dalton incident will be on their minds.   I'm sure that the line is more pissed at themselves than they will ever be with Suh for even letting him have the opportunity to body slam AD.  Media only Non-issue.

 

 

I don't think they'll be motivated to get even with Suh, but I do think they'll be motivated to make sure it doesn't happen again.

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 just making jarring tackles that officials are suspicious of being illegal.

 

That's very much the problem with the new/reemphasized "safety" (ie please don't sue us again) rules - they're selectively enforced.  Isn't it against the rules now for an offensive player to lead with their helmet? I don't think I've seen that called once - it's still a flag on the defender for, basically, tackling someone who lowered their head. Generally they're just throwing flags if a hit looks bad enough without much concern for whether or not it was inside the rules. Every week players are getting fined for hits that didn't draw a flag while others are getting flagged for stuff that never gets fined once it's reviewed.  It's way too much of a judgement call to ask of refs that can't even seem to spot the ball properly on a consistent basis.

 

Of course, the league could've put a chip in the ball years ago and done away with any guesswork about whether it crossed the goal line or was out of bounds etc. Same deal with the strike zone in baseball. Refusing to do so makes it obvious that both leagues are using the officials to steer a chosen narrative.

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Only absence from #Bengals practice today: Cornerback Terence Newman. Second straight practice he's missed.

 

 

Any news on what's wrong with him? Could mean playing time for Dre. Not a bad thing necessarily as long as he doesn't have to cover Megatron...

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Any news on what's wrong with him? Could mean playing time for Dre. Not a bad thing necessarily as long as he doesn't have to cover Megatron...

 

 

during the game I thought they said knee.  Yesterday he was listed with an abdomen injury, but also read an article that said hop.

 

so who knows, lol.

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  1. #Lions QB @Staff_9: None of us were happy with the way last year turned out and it's all about getting better & learning from mistakes.

     
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