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Geno Atkins vs. Larry Warford/Rob Sims

 

There are a few ways to slow Atkins down and take advantage of his tendencies.

He likes to shoot gaps in the offensive line, so sometimes he can be too aggressive, which exposes him to draw plays or specifically designed running plays that draw him downfield.

Last week, the Bills were able to take advantage of Atkins' tendencies on a few occasions. The Lions should be able to do the same because they have the excellent Reggie Bush, who can excel running from the shotgun on delays or draws and catching screen passes.

Even though Stafford isn't mobile, the Bengals defensive line will have to always be wary of rushing down the field because they won't want to give Bush space over the middle of the field.

On a screen pass last week, Bush was able to score an 18-yard touchdown when the Browns' defensive line was caught in no-man's land.

 

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Left guard Sims throws a key block to initially spring Bush free up the middle, while both Warford and center Dominic Raiola are running downfield to block on the second level. Considering the Lions have their own very aggressive and talented defensive line to practice against and design their game plan around, their offense should be able to handle the talented Bengals defensive front. 

The winner of this matchup won't be determined by pure physical talent. It will be determined by who is smarter on the field and on the sidelines.

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1814855-nfl-week-7-breaking-down-this-weekends-biggest-matchups

 

 

 

I think our DL is too disciplined for this type of middle screen to ever go off on us.

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The most important thing this Bengals team is doing, is learning how to win.  11- 3 in the last 14 games.  It's becoming a part of this team.  Regardless of how, this is not a "losing" team.

 

Don't tell Skip Bayless that.  He basically said on First Take today that he is taking the Lions because the Bengals don't know how to win games and basically the games that they have won, they "barely" did it.  Such nonsense.

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Don't tell Skip Bayless that.  He basically said on First Take today that he is taking the Lions because the Bengals don't know how to win games and basically the games that they have won, they "barely" did it.  Such nonsense.

Heard ken broo say this exact thing on 700 wlw this afternoon.
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Don't tell Skip Bayless that.  He basically said on First Take today that he is taking the Lions because the Bengals don't know how to win games and basically the games that they have won, they "barely" did it.  Such nonsense.


4 wins in 6 games proves otherwise. A win is a win anyway.
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Heard ken broo say this exact thing on 700 wlw this afternoon.

 

Now you know who is on the mailing list for reasons to crap on the Bengals.


4 wins in 6 games proves otherwise. A win is a win anyway.

 

When Brady barely beat the Bills, it was grit and 'will to win' overcoming his crappy WR talent.

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Heard ken broo say this exact thing on 700 wlw this afternoon.


That makes the connection I've felt for years. Broo is the Cincinnati Skip... He's always been douchie, I've just had trouble putting a name to it.
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Dalton on all passes further than 10-yards:

23 of 66 = 34.8%

512 yards (7.76 YPA) (22.3 YPC)

5 TDs, 3 INTs

69.8 QB Rating


Take away 11-20 range, where Dalton has thrown 3 INTs and looking at 21+ (aka deep ball accuracy)

5/20 = 25%

192 yards (9.6 YPA) (38.4 YPC)

2 TD, 0 INT

100.4 Rating


The further Dalton throws, the more likely it is he'll throw a Touchdown.

0-10 yards: 2.0%

11-20 yards: 6.5%

21+ yards: 10.0%


But, its Risk vs Reward. Dalton's Interception percentage increases the further he throws also.

0-10 Yards: 2.0%

11+ Yards: 4.5%


AJ Green has caught 46.2% of all of Dalton's completed passes when inside their OWN 20. That's most likely area for Green to catch passes.


In the Red Zone, AJ Green has been the recipient of 38.5% of all Dalton's completed passes. That's the second-highest area on the field.


Between the 20s is where we need more Green. He has caught only 21.2% of Dalton's 2013 completions in that area.

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Bernard's averaging 4.3 per carry on his first 10 carries. (52 for 221 yards) After his 10th carry, that average drops to 2.0 (8 for 16).

 

 

Gio Bernard Running Direction: -

LEFT: 26 for 76 (2.9) -

MIDDLE: 8 for 26 (3.3) -

RIGHT: 26 for 135 (5.2)

 

Green-Ellis averages 3.9 yards on his first 10-carries (56 for 219). After that, his average drops to 2.3 yards per carry (33 for 76).

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Green, Johnson bring similar styles, effects to game

 

 

CINCINNATI – The first time A.J. Green had a football thrown his way in an NFL game he ended up making a tackle instead of a catch.

"I hope I get off to a better start than that," said the Bengals wide receiver about going back to Detroit on Sunday to play the Lions.

That first pass attempt from quarterback Andy Dalton was in a preseason game, the first game for both Dalton and Green in their rookie season of 2011. That game -- a 34-3 Detroit victory at Ford Field -- didn't count. Sunday does. Both teams are 4-2 and in first place in their divisions; the Bengals have a one-game lead over Baltimore and Cleveland in the AFC North, while Detroit is tied with Chicago in the NFC North.

Green has done pretty well since that first game. He's caught 199 passes for 2,871 yards and 22 touchdowns. Each game he gets the full attention of opposing defenses. Rarely does he see single coverage. Chicago did it a lot in the season opener with cornerback Charles Tillman; Green ended the game with nine catches for 162 yards and two touchdowns.

Calvin Johnson knows the defensive treatment Green gets all too well. Detroit's opponents have been game-planning against Johnson that way since he came into the league as the No. 2 overall pick in 2007. All he's done in that time is catch 512 passes for 8,173 yards and 58 touchdowns. Johnson has led the NFL in receiving yards the last two seasons, including a league record, 1,964 yards last season when he caught a league-leading 122 passes. 

There are similarities galore when it comes to Green and Johnson, who train together in the offseason. Not the least of those similarities are their personalities. Wide receivers are the diva class of the NFL; Green and Johnson are much more Marvin Harrison than Chad Johnson.

Their teams might be lining up against each other on Sunday, but Green isn't facing Johnson and Johnson isn't facing Green. Not as if either player does much chest thumping as it is, but there won't be any on Sunday when it comes to each other.

"I just go out there and play my game and he will do the same. I don't try to get caught up in all that stuff," said Green.

Johnson said the two haven't talked much this week. When they do talk, it isn't about stats.

"We talk about the things that are going on within the season," said Johnson. "Everybody has their struggles. Each team has a struggle that's personal, or like I said the team. We talk about things like that more so."

Green played his college football at Georgia. Johnson played a Georgia Tech. That gives them another similarity.

"Both have caught passes from Matt Stafford," said Detroit head coach Jim Schwartz.

Stafford's junior season at Georgia – his final season with the Bulldogs – was Green's freshman season in Athens. Green was named SEC Freshman of the Year after catching 56 passes for 963 yards and eight touchdowns. Stafford was the No. 1 overall pick in 2009. His first two seasons were injury-riddled but he's played like a top draft choice the last three years.

Stafford has benefitted from Johnson in the same way Dalton has benefitted from Green. 

"Both of them don't have to be open for a quarterback to throw the ball to them," said Schwartz. "They are tall with great hands and leaping ability. Both are different as far as other skill sets. Both have the quarterback's confidence that if they are covered they can get it to them. They have the confidence to throw it up and make a play."

Green had his second 100-yard game of the season last week at Buffalo, catching six passes for 103 yards. He caught an 18-yard touchdown pass from Dalton in the first quarter, going high over his defender to grab the ball and give the Bengals a 10-7 lead. 

Johnson is battling a knee injury that kept him out of a game two weeks ago at Green Bay and limited him last week at Cleveland. He had just three catches for 25 yards on eight targets against the Browns. He has been limited in practice all week but the Bengals won't be decoyed. They will stick with their normal plan.

The presence of Johnson on the field makes it tougher for defenses to choose how to defend running back Reggie Bush, tight end Joseph Fauria and other weapons Stafford has at his disposal. 

Sound familiar?

"Obviously he's a great player," said defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer. "You take your shots with him and you're careful with him. There are times when you're not careful with him.

"They've got a lot of weapons offensively and I think the quarterback (Stafford) helps because he gets them the ball in good spots. Obviously having Johnson out there, if guys pay too much attention then Bush beats you."

 

http://www.foxsportsohio.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/story/Green-Johnson-bring-similar-styles-effec?blockID=952151&feedID=3724

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Per @ColeyHarvey, plays that the Bengals have run with Giovani Bernard on the field: 205. Plays without Giovani Bernard: 203.

 

 

 

Just saw that Andy has never thrown a TD in a dome.

 


We're fucked

 

 

 

lol.  He's 1-0 in dome regular season games  though. We're saved!

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Ref Watch: Scott Green

 

A look at Sunday's Bengals-Lions referee, Scott Green:
 
This week's referee is Scott Green. This marks the seventh Bengals game where Green has been the referee. The most recent one was Week 9 last season when the Bengals hosted the Broncos.
 
Green's crew had the Niners-Cardinals game last week. That crew called 16 penalties with three declined. Of the 13 accepted penalties, 10 were on San Francisco and three on Arizona. The breakdown -- False start 3, Offensive holding 2 (1 was declined), Neutral Zone Infraction 2 (1 was declined), Defensive pass interference 2, Defensive holding 2 (1 was declined), Defense offside 1, Roughing the passer 1, Illegal block above the waist 1, 12 Men on field 1, Delay of game 1 . Breakdown by quarters -- First 0, Second 7, Third 2, Fourth 7. 
 
Green's crew has called only five games, but they are tied for fourth in the league with 85 penalties called. The 72 accepted are tied for fifth with the 122 yards per game third. Green's crew has called 10 pass interference penalties, which is tied for third in the league. For those wondering about holding, the combined 19 offense and defense flags are fourth most. 
 
The Bengals have been called for 40 penalties which is tied for 13th in the league. However the 373 yards in penalties are eighth. There have been 12 offensive holding calls, which is seventh in the league. With Green's crew having a penchant for pass interference calls, they have only two (one offensive, one defensive) which is tied for least in the league. With the three penalties last week at Buffalo, Vontaze Burfict is tied for second in the league with six penalties along with Kansas City OT Brandon Albert and Jets OG Willie Colon. Jacksonville's Jason Babin leads with seven. Burfict's 63 yards penalized is seventh. Jermaine Gresham's four penalties are tied for the league lead among tight ends. 
 
For Detroit, their 45 penalties are sixth and 400 yards fifth. Their six defensive pass interference penalties are ninth and five defensive offside calls 10th. Lions CB Bill Bentley is tied for second in the league with 69 penalty yards. Ndamukong Suh's four penalties are second among NFL defensive tackles and Nick Fairley's three are tied for third.
 
 
Note, some of the math isn't spot-on (for example, penalties by quarter: 0+7+2+7 = 16) but overall it's a decent breakdown of the raw data.  It has been my experience that the Bengals tend do to poorly in games refereed by crews that like to "take charge" and throw an above-average number of flags.  Scott Green's crew are one of these.  The worst are the Carey brothers... Mike is 3rd overall, but I think that's just because he likes to be on TV a lot.  His older brother Don is 1st overall, I think he's jealous of all the screen time little Mikey gets.
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