oldschooler Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, oldschooler said: Kudos Chad! He's our quarterback and I'm gonna keep faith we can win championship (s) with him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 OMG DALTON DEFENDURRRR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 "Hey look at me! Remember me? I'm Ocho Cinco! I'm relevant again" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 44 minutes ago, Bunghole said: "Hey look at me! Remember me? I'm Ocho Cinco! I'm relevant again" Don't be dissing Chad when he's defending our boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 5 hours ago, schotzee said: Don't be dissing Chad when he's defending our boys. Since when is Andy Dalton "our boy"? He might be your boy, he might be Marvin's boy but he ain't MY boy. If it were up to me Carson Palmer would still be starting. He guarantees us a better draft pick next season, Andy might play too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 I read here but hardly ever post. Just putting my 2 cents in - don't give a crap what Chad Johnson thinks or says, he had some of the worst judgement when it came to football, can't imagine that he's gotten any wiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saphead Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 Andy might have a bright orange full bush of pubic hair, but that's OUR bright orange full bush of pubic hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 19 hours ago, Bunghole said: Since when is Andy Dalton "our boy"? He might be your boy, he might be Marvin's boy but he ain't MY boy. If it were up to me Carson Palmer would still be starting. He guarantees us a better draft pick next season, Andy might play too well. He may be your father boy, but he wasn't your daddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 Andy is what Andy is. Still love Chad though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 I think I read somewhere from a talent scout that the only thing Andy needs to do to improve as a QB is to work on making his arms a little longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 QB1: 9 yrs, 0-3 in the playoffs, record of 60-65, 62% completion rate, passer rating 88.3. QB2: 7yrs, 0-4 in the playoffs, record of 63-44-2, 62.3% completion rate, passer rating of 88.7 QB1 signed a 5 year $135mil contract with $60 mil guaranteed. Most analysts want to have his children QB2 gets shit on by almost all analysts who seem to think he is one of the worst QBs in the league. QB1: Matt Stafford QB2: Andy Dalton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thezerawkid Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, SF2 said: QB1: 9 yrs, 0-3 in the playoffs, record of 60-65, 62% completion rate, passer rating 88.3. QB2: 7yrs, 0-4 in the playoffs, record of 63-44-2, 62.3% completion rate, passer rating of 88.7 QB1 signed a 5 year $135mil contract with $60 mil guaranteed. Most analysts want to have his children QB2 gets shit on by almost all analysts who seem to think he is one of the worst QBs in the league. QB1: Matt Stafford QB2: Andy Dalton. This. And, damnit, people keep in mind what his numbers look like when he has more than three seconds to throw the ball and a semblance of a running game. His numbers, and their zenith, are fairly stellar. It is not now, nor has it ever been, an Andy Dalton-centric matter that this club can’t get over the hump. Incredible to me how many fans can’t seem to get this through their skulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thezerawkid Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, SF2 said: QB1: 9 yrs, 0-3 in the playoffs, record of 60-65, 62% completion rate, passer rating 88.3. QB2: 7yrs, 0-4 in the playoffs, record of 63-44-2, 62.3% completion rate, passer rating of 88.7 QB1 signed a 5 year $135mil contract with $60 mil guaranteed. Most analysts want to have his children QB2 gets shit on by almost all analysts who seem to think he is one of the worst QBs in the league. QB1: Matt Stafford QB2: Andy Dalton. This. And, damnit, people keep in mind what his numbers look like when he has more than three seconds to throw the ball and a semblance of a running game. His numbers, and their zenith, are fairly stellar. It is not now, nor has it ever been, an Andy Dalton-centric matter that this club can’t get over the hump. Incredible to me how many fans can’t seem to get this through their skulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 23 hours ago, Jamie_B said: Andy is what Andy is. Lol. Leaarning the Marvin speak? We are where we are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 I get the people that don't like Andy.. but the people that still defend and want the fucking quitter here blow my mind. JFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 2 hours ago, SF2 said: QB1: 9 yrs, 0-3 in the playoffs, record of 60-65, 62% completion rate, passer rating 88.3. QB2: 7yrs, 0-4 in the playoffs, record of 63-44-2, 62.3% completion rate, passer rating of 88.7 QB1 signed a 5 year $135mil contract with $60 mil guaranteed. Most analysts want to have his children QB2 gets shit on by almost all analysts who seem to think he is one of the worst QBs in the league. QB1: Matt Stafford QB2: Andy Dalton. yea..but that cannon arm.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 21 hours ago, SF2 said: QB1: 9 yrs, 0-3 in the playoffs, record of 60-65, 62% completion rate, passer rating 88.3. QB2: 7yrs, 0-4 in the playoffs, record of 63-44-2, 62.3% completion rate, passer rating of 88.7 QB1 signed a 5 year $135mil contract with $60 mil guaranteed. Most analysts want to have his children QB2 gets shit on by almost all analysts who seem to think he is one of the worst QBs in the league. QB1: Matt Stafford QB2: Andy Dalton. Very similar. Also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 On 5/4/2018 at 9:14 AM, thezerawkid said: This. And, damnit, people keep in mind what his numbers look like when he has more than three seconds to throw the ball and a semblance of a running game. His numbers, and their zenith, are fairly stellar. It is not now, nor has it ever been, an Andy Dalton-centric matter that this club can’t get over the hump. Incredible to me how many fans can’t seem to get this through their skulls. It will never cease to crack me up when I hear about ANYONE talking about "Well, if Dalton had more time, a run game, etc..." that he would be good. Yeah, said every QB ever to play in the league. Why for whatever reason is this deficiency somehow only something Andy Dalton struggles with? ANY other QB in the league by and large is NOT going to be successful in the absence of decent blocking, a decent run game, etc. EVERY OTHER QB IN THE LEAGUE needs these things. Why is Dalton singled out like he needs some kind of "extra help" or something? He's no different than anyone else playing the position in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 On 5/5/2018 at 8:20 PM, Bunghole said: It will never cease to crack me up when I hear about ANYONE talking about "Well, if Dalton had more time, a run game, etc..." that he would be good. Yeah, said every QB ever to play in the league. Why for whatever reason is this deficiency somehow only something Andy Dalton struggles with? ANY other QB in the league by and large is NOT going to be successful in the absence of decent blocking, a decent run game, etc. EVERY OTHER QB IN THE LEAGUE needs these things. Why is Dalton singled out like he needs some kind of "extra help" or something? He's no different than anyone else playing the position in the NFL. They certainly give Stafford a pass citing these problems yet Dalton, who has better lifetime numbers in almost EVERY category doesn't have what it takes. Dalton has better everything stat wise compared to Derick Carr. Carr is the Messiah, just needs a better team. Stats almost exactly like Bradford except Andy has a much better winning percentage. Everyone feels so bad for a HOF talent in Bradford who just can't stay healthy. Dalton sucks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thezerawkid Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 On 5/5/2018 at 8:20 PM, Bunghole said: It will never cease to crack me up when I hear about ANYONE talking about "Well, if Dalton had more time, a run game, etc..." that he would be good. Yeah, said every QB ever to play in the league. Why for whatever reason is this deficiency somehow only something Andy Dalton struggles with? ANY other QB in the league by and large is NOT going to be successful in the absence of decent blocking, a decent run game, etc. EVERY OTHER QB IN THE LEAGUE needs these things. Why is Dalton singled out like he needs some kind of "extra help" or something? He's no different than anyone else playing the position in the NFL. That’s horseshit. There’re plenty of guys who play the position and never post numbers that even sniff Dalton’s. Particularly during his good seasons. “EVERY OTHER QB IN THE LEAGUE” is absolute bullshit. Please, by all means cherry pick to make a point, don’t fucking make the entire tree barren while you’re at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted May 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, thezerawkid said: That’s horseshit. There’re plenty of guys who play the position and never post numbers that even sniff Dalton’s. Particularly during his good seasons. “EVERY OTHER QB IN THE LEAGUE” is absolute bullshit. Please, by all means cherry pick to make a point, don’t fucking make the entire tree barren while you’re at it. Somewhat harsher than my thoughts but I agree Dalton is paid like a bottom tier starter and offers a lot more than some that are top tier paid QBs. I don't think anyone is going to argue Dalton is elite but he's not paid like an elite either. And he's plenty enough to win with. Plus he's going on his 3rd different OC in the past 4 seasons. I'm confident we can win with Dalton. But he does need help and should not expected to be Aaron Rodgers or Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thezerawkid Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, oldschooler said: Somewhat harsher than my thoughts but I agree Dalton is paid like a bottom tier starter and offers a lot more than some that are top tier paid QBs. I don't think anyone is going to argue Dalton is elite but he's not paid like an elite either. And he's plenty enough to win with. Plus he's going on his 3rd different OC in the past 4 seasons. I'm confident we can win with Dalton. But he does need help and should not expected to be Aaron Rodgers or Brady. Exactly. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 I'm not sure you guys are disagreeing with me here. FFS, even Rodgers and Brady need decent protection to be successful. I fail to understand how any of this is "horseshit" or "cherry picking". Dalton is not unique in this regard. Like any other NFL QB, he needs time after the snap to judge what he's going to do with the ball. Where are we not communicating here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thezerawkid Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 I think this is the issue: Brady gets great protection. He wins. Rodgers, even though there are massive injuries to the guys in front of him most years, still gets time to throw the ball. He wins a lot too. When Dalton has had time to throw the ball he has won a lot of games for us. You claimed his deficiencies exist regardless, as if our argument somehow doesn’t apply to him. I think we are totally disagreeing here. ”It will never cease to crack me up when I hear about ANYONE talking about "Well, if Dalton had more time, a run game, etc..." that he would be good” We are saying he *is* good, but because he lacks time to throw he ball he struggles. Your above comment clearly indicates you just think he’s not good regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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