claptonrocks 251 Posted October 7 Author Report Share Posted October 7 3 hours ago, spicoli said: Anybody have the OL grades yet? For the season? I can give you a personal observation by watching on the tube.. I do watch alot of line play.. Left to right. B..D..C..C..C Sample..C÷.. They were average which we aren't accustomed too but they gave JB and Mixon some time and openings.. All JB and his weapons need is a C rating.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sea Ray 43 Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 I thought the O line was pretty dominant in the second half. Perhaps Redmond is at least serviceable as a RG which is a far cry above what we'd seen from Johnson and Price Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 384 Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 Article in the Athletic: Ted’s Film Room: The Browns quarter-season MVP is Bill Callahan https://theathletic.com/2119843/2020/10/07/teds-film-room-the-browns-quarter-season-mvp-is-bill-callahan/ Gee, get a good OL coach and suddendly the OL is better... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 251 Posted October 7 Author Report Share Posted October 7 49 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Article in the Athletic: Ted’s Film Room: The Browns quarter-season MVP is Bill Callahan https://theathletic.com/2119843/2020/10/07/teds-film-room-the-browns-quarter-season-mvp-is-bill-callahan/ Gee, get a good OL coach and suddendly the OL is better... You realize the Browns had a projected top ten oline before the season.. He did coach up Wyatt Teller whos current pff is around 91!! Not knocking ole Bill but the talent was there for him .. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 251 Posted October 13 Author Report Share Posted October 13 I believe the Oline will insert Adenijji at LG this wek.. Jordan hasnt made progress.. Id put him at LG to work that side with Jonah wholl help him more than Hart . Let Redmond stay at RG.. So far hes been up then down.. Hopefully we see up this week.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spicoli 506 Posted October 14 Report Share Posted October 14 Pretty disappointed in Jordan. I really thought he’d have a solid season after finishing strong last year. At this point Adenijji couldn’t be any worse in that spot, I’m all for a switch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PatternMaster 847 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 On 10/13/2020 at 7:35 PM, claptonrocks said: I believe the Oline will insert Adenijji at LG this wek.. Jordan hasnt made progress.. Id put him at LG to work that side with Jonah wholl help him more than Hart . Let Redmond stay at RG.. So far hes been up then down.. Hopefully we see up this week.. Why do expect any offensive lineman to look good week in and week out with this coaching staff... through 20 games I've haven't seen any progression of any player on this team, especially on the offensive line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spicoli 506 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 2 hours ago, PatternMaster said: Why do expect any offensive lineman to look good week in and week out with this coaching staff... through 20 games I've haven't seen any progression of any player on this team, especially on the offensive line. I haven’t seen anyone on the OL get better that’s for sure but there are certainly other guys on the team that have shown improvement....Hubbard, Bates, Phillips...Sample is definitely getting better. Even Boyd is playing at a higher level, IMO...those are a few examples. The two young LBs are definitely getting better. I feel like Jonah will be playing at a high level as the season progresses.....just sayin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 251 Posted October 16 Author Report Share Posted October 16 On 10/15/2020 at 1:52 PM, spicoli said: I haven’t seen anyone on the OL get better that’s for sure but there are certainly other guys on the team that have shown improvement....Hubbard, Bates, Phillips...Sample is definitely getting better. Even Boyd is playing at a higher level, IMO...those are a few examples. The two young LBs are definitely getting better. I feel like Jonah will be playing at a high level as the season progresses.....just sayin. Ive allmost thrown my hands up with these O-Stooges called a line... Adenijji probably isnt quite ready but noone outside of Jonah seems to be anyway.. Give the kid a shot at LG .. Jordan is looking like a big bust.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dub 7,624 Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 16 hours ago, claptonrocks said: Ive allmost thrown my hands up with these O-Stooges called a line... Adenijji probably isnt quite ready but noone outside of Jonah seems to be anyway.. Jonah still has looked serviceable at best to me, I've yet to see anything special and definitely nothing that would validate being an 11th overall draft pick. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mgbrown66 48 Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 A serviceable left tackle is ok for now. He will only get better. but if we pick high enough to get the kid out of Oregon then you do it and move Jonah to the right side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dub 7,624 Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 19 minutes ago, mgbrown66 said: A serviceable left tackle is ok for now. He will only get better. Yeah that'd be my hope as well, but for someone drafted that high I would've hoped to see him flash something special, go off on someone a little or do something that looks more than average athletically, you get the idea. edit Not even a knock on Williams, it's not like he drafted himself. Think I said before that an ok-ish LT is great considering the state of the OL. Just thought we were getting more than that at the time. Goes to show once again that this team is just throwing darts when it comes to grading OL talent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 251 Posted October 17 Author Report Share Posted October 17 58 minutes ago, mgbrown66 said: A serviceable left tackle is ok for now. He will only get better. but if we pick high enough to get the kid out of Oregon then you do it and move Jonah to the right side. Id leave Jonah at LT..hell be good eventually.. Hes decent now considering hes all they have left of center!! Put big Sewell at RT ..not only pass protect but move people in run game.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 384 Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 1 hour ago, mgbrown66 said: A serviceable left tackle is ok for now. He will only get better. but if we pick high enough to get the kid out of Oregon then you do it and move Jonah to the right side. And then several years from now - well, we cant afford to pay both of them.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dub 7,624 Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 Just came across this, apologies if its been posted here somewhere already & I missed it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|SF2| 4,099 Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 21 hours ago, claptonrocks said: Ive allmost thrown my hands up with these O-Stooges called a line... Adenijji probably isnt quite ready but noone outside of Jonah seems to be anyway.. Give the kid a shot at LG .. Jordan is looking like a big bust.. Jordan was a 4th rounder. He is a serviceable backup. He is better than Billy Price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 251 Posted October 17 Author Report Share Posted October 17 3 minutes ago, SF2 said: Jordan was a 4th rounder. He is a serviceable backup. He is better than Billy Price. SF ..did you say hes better than Bilky Price?? More than likely so are you!!.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|SF2| 4,099 Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 19 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: SF ..did you say hes better than Bilky Price?? More than likely so are you!!.. LOL, I only wish I had signed the $9.15mil guaranteed contract like Price did!! Seriously, Jordan isn’t a bad backup, Price is garbage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 384 Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 Jordan was thrown into the fire far too early, he needed some development time with a real OL coach Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 251 Posted October 17 Author Report Share Posted October 17 29 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Jordan was thrown into the fire far too early, he needed some development time with a real OL coach Yes he most certainly was.. Hes a bust up to now though. Somebody better light a fire under his ass.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 251 Posted October 17 Author Report Share Posted October 17 Ya know trying to formulate an effective Oline is a bit like scrabble.. Instead of letters you have players.. Its amazing how many combinations you can come up with.. You can have fun with it and put guards at tackles and. vice versa.. Heres a concoction i came up with... LT Williams.. LG.Adenijji C.. Hopkins RG Hart RT Johnson.. How about this. LT Johnson LG Williams C.Hopkins RG Hart RT..Jordan Bout to get cute with it.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 384 Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 Adenijji - we have no idea if this guy is any good let alone ready; we only have the word of the OL coach Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 251 Posted October 18 Author Report Share Posted October 18 17 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Adenijji - we have no idea if this guy is any good let alone ready; we only have the word of the OL coach IC. Who looks "Ready" on this line except Jonah? To Hell with Turner opinions. Play the kid to see if he has Anything to offer more than what the others before him have "busted. at".. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 384 Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 Playing someone too early when they are not ready can damage them or derail their potential; up to the coaches to decide that except our OL coach is garbage Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 251 Posted October 18 Author Report Share Posted October 18 1 hour ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Playing someone too early when they are not ready can damage them or derail their potential; up to the coaches to decide that except our OL coach is garbage Hell you dont even believe that with this line... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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