Posted April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702711 What moves do you think the team should make before the draft starts or we're on the clock? I'd like to see at least one of Apple or Flowers re-signed. Ideally both. And sign Zeke Elliott if he's willing to play for 4 mil or less. We could also use a veteran backup QB but that doesn't need to be before the draft. See what the trade market for Jonah is and if we can get a 3rd, do it before the draft. We might get a better offer if there is an early run at LT.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702712 I dont think we do anything pre draft. I think we are set with what we are doing. Post draft or even during the draft if we trade Johnna is more likely.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702713 4 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: I dont think we do anything pre draft. I think we are set with what we are doing. Post draft or even during the draft if we trade Johnna is more likely. Much as I'd like to see it, who plays RT? Bet it all on Gimpy Collins and a rookie?
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702714 4 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Much as I'd like to see it, who plays RT? Bet it all on Gimpy Collins and a rookie? Depends on how the draft falls. Who are we going to get before the draft to do that? Personally if Wright is there at 28 I run to the podium, otherwise I think Jones in 2, but after 2 nobody is going to do better than what we already have.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702717 7 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: After 2 nobody is going to do better than what we already have. Can't agree with that, there's talent in every round. Orlando Brown was a 3rd round pick. "What we already have" are the guy whose primary skill so far has been giving interviews and the guy we're talking about trading. Simply put, we don't have a starting RT right now.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702718 3 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Can't agree with that, there's talent in every round. Orlando Brown was a 3rd round pick. "What we already have" are the guy whose primary skill so far has been giving interviews and the guy we're talking about trading. Simply put, we don't have a starting RT right now. This is a weak draft for tackle if you don't get a guy early. Not really a fan of the draft a guy and see if he sticks philosophy.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702722 18 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Can't agree with that, there's talent in every round. Orlando Brown was a 3rd round pick. "What we already have" are the guy whose primary skill so far has been giving interviews and the guy we're talking about trading. Simply put, we don't have a starting RT right now. This really is a BAD year to need a T in the draft and be picking 28th. Just no depth and not great developmental types at all. No one floating around in the mid-rounds that you will come within a mile of starting at RT in Week 1 for instance.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702724 1 hour ago, membengal said: This really is a BAD year to need a T in the draft and be picking 28th. Not if Dawand Jones is there. 28 is about his value and he will not last until 60.
April 27, 20232 yr Author comment_1702748 Depending on how early the tackle run starts, it's likely Dawand is available at 28. Probably Harrison too. Maybe one of Wright or B Jones fall as well. In every mock simulation I've done, Dawand is available at 28. There have been some mocks with him going in the top 20 but they are outliers at this point.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702751 I'd take the pick at 28, then package Mixon & Jonah with 60 & 92 (either order) to move those picks up as far as possible. I think there's real quality for the first 50-60 guys the there's a steep drop-off.
April 27, 20232 yr Author comment_1702759 Mixon has no trade value. Jonah should be worth a midround pick though. I'd rather have an extra pick for him than move up from 60 or 92. I could imagine the team trading down from 28 if someone wants to take Hendon Hooker and get the 5th year option. But that would only happen when we're on the clock. I hope the OT run doesn't start early and that most of the picks ahead of us are D-linemen, CBs, and WRs.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702760 2 hours ago, BlackJesus said: Not if Dawand Jones is there. 28 is about his value and he will not last until 60. He didn't test. he didn't workout. He didn't do anything after day 1 of senior bowl practices. He's a genuine unknown as to weight and fitness. I see his upside, I also see that he could be worse than Carman as rookie and beyond. If we take him at 28, I will hope, but...he comes with so. many. flags.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702761 If no RT in the draft then a couple of young guard/center/tackle combo players that would be backup duty now but can be future starters like Bergeron or Mauch would work for me.
April 27, 20232 yr Author comment_1702764 1 minute ago, membengal said: He didn't test. he didn't workout. He didn't do anything after day 1 of senior bowl practices. He's a genuine unknown as to weight and fitness. I see his upside, I also see that he could be worse than Carman as rookie and beyond. If we take him at 28, I will hope, but...he comes with so. many. flags. I'm willing to take that chance. If we pick D Jones, we could move on from Jonah's guaranteed contract and hang on to Collins until camp. Worst case we have the newly motivated and hard working Carman.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702780 3 hours ago, membengal said: This really is a BAD year to need a T in the draft and be picking 28th. Just no depth and not great developmental types at all. No one floating around in the mid-rounds that you will come within a mile of starting at RT in Week 1 for instance. I guess Ford is their plan B? Right now he'd probably be the starter, right? Yikes.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702784 2 minutes ago, T-Dub said: I guess Ford is their plan B? Right now he'd probably be the starter, right? Yikes. No? their starter is Williams. Carman is next up. Collins maybe back in mix by October. Ford is plan Z. Like, he's here on less than a vet min.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702788 4 hours ago, T-Dub said: Much as I'd like to see it, who plays RT? Bet it all on Gimpy Collins and a rookie? Hey that's an idea...😎
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702790 45 minutes ago, membengal said: No? their starter is Williams. Carman is next up. Collins maybe back in mix by October. Ford is plan Z. Like, he's here on less than a vet min. Williams wants out. Carman looked maybe passable at LT. Collins has yet to be healthy since he got here and is rehabbing a knee. Making Ford the current starting RT. Again, yikes.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702792 17 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Hey that's an idea...😎 Can't believe that's their plan, has to be some late FA RT targeted in case they can't piece one together from the spare parts bin that is the current depth chart.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702793 Literally, you are making shit up about Ford because you have a weird agenda. He's, at best, their 5th best current option. It doens't matter what Jonah wants, here's here under contract. He's option 1. Carman is option 2. A recovering Collins option 3 by October. Adeniji/Smith option 4. Then Ford. At best. Again, he's here ON LESS THAN A VET MIN CONTRACT. Just...stop. Or, don't. I know you like to muckrake.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702794 Even if the RT spot doesn’t get addressed this weekend, that doesn’t mean that it won’t get addressed before the start of season. September is a long way off.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702795 2 minutes ago, spicoli said: Even if the RT spot doesn’t get addressed tonight, that doesn’t mean that it won’t get addressed before the start of season. September is a long way off. You're not getting anyone better than what's on the roster right now that late I to the season
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702796 1 minute ago, Jamie_B said: You're not getting anyone better than what's on the roster right now that late I to the season Unless they can pull off getting Darnell Wright or Broderick Jones, they’re not getting better than what’s on the roster this weekend either.
April 27, 20232 yr comment_1702798 1 minute ago, spicoli said: Unless they can pull off getting Darnell Wright or Broderick Jones, they’re not getting better than what’s on the roster this weekend either. Agree to disagree
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