sparky151 Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 What moves do you think the team should make before the draft starts or we're on the clock? I'd like to see at least one of Apple or Flowers re-signed. Ideally both. And sign Zeke Elliott if he's willing to play for 4 mil or less. We could also use a veteran backup QB but that doesn't need to be before the draft. See what the trade market for Jonah is and if we can get a 3rd, do it before the draft. We might get a better offer if there is an early run at LT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 I dont think we do anything pre draft. I think we are set with what we are doing. Post draft or even during the draft if we trade Johnna is more likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 4 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: I dont think we do anything pre draft. I think we are set with what we are doing. Post draft or even during the draft if we trade Johnna is more likely. Much as I'd like to see it, who plays RT? Bet it all on Gimpy Collins and a rookie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 4 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Much as I'd like to see it, who plays RT? Bet it all on Gimpy Collins and a rookie? Depends on how the draft falls. Who are we going to get before the draft to do that? Personally if Wright is there at 28 I run to the podium, otherwise I think Jones in 2, but after 2 nobody is going to do better than what we already have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 7 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: After 2 nobody is going to do better than what we already have. Can't agree with that, there's talent in every round. Orlando Brown was a 3rd round pick. "What we already have" are the guy whose primary skill so far has been giving interviews and the guy we're talking about trading. Simply put, we don't have a starting RT right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 3 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Can't agree with that, there's talent in every round. Orlando Brown was a 3rd round pick. "What we already have" are the guy whose primary skill so far has been giving interviews and the guy we're talking about trading. Simply put, we don't have a starting RT right now. This is a weak draft for tackle if you don't get a guy early. Not really a fan of the draft a guy and see if he sticks philosophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 18 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Can't agree with that, there's talent in every round. Orlando Brown was a 3rd round pick. "What we already have" are the guy whose primary skill so far has been giving interviews and the guy we're talking about trading. Simply put, we don't have a starting RT right now. This really is a BAD year to need a T in the draft and be picking 28th. Just no depth and not great developmental types at all. No one floating around in the mid-rounds that you will come within a mile of starting at RT in Week 1 for instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 1 hour ago, membengal said: This really is a BAD year to need a T in the draft and be picking 28th. Not if Dawand Jones is there. 28 is about his value and he will not last until 60. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted April 27 Author Report Share Posted April 27 Depending on how early the tackle run starts, it's likely Dawand is available at 28. Probably Harrison too. Maybe one of Wright or B Jones fall as well. In every mock simulation I've done, Dawand is available at 28. There have been some mocks with him going in the top 20 but they are outliers at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkster Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 I'd take the pick at 28, then package Mixon & Jonah with 60 & 92 (either order) to move those picks up as far as possible. I think there's real quality for the first 50-60 guys the there's a steep drop-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted April 27 Author Report Share Posted April 27 Mixon has no trade value. Jonah should be worth a midround pick though. I'd rather have an extra pick for him than move up from 60 or 92. I could imagine the team trading down from 28 if someone wants to take Hendon Hooker and get the 5th year option. But that would only happen when we're on the clock. I hope the OT run doesn't start early and that most of the picks ahead of us are D-linemen, CBs, and WRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 2 hours ago, BlackJesus said: Not if Dawand Jones is there. 28 is about his value and he will not last until 60. He didn't test. he didn't workout. He didn't do anything after day 1 of senior bowl practices. He's a genuine unknown as to weight and fitness. I see his upside, I also see that he could be worse than Carman as rookie and beyond. If we take him at 28, I will hope, but...he comes with so. many. flags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|westside bengal| Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 If no RT in the draft then a couple of young guard/center/tackle combo players that would be backup duty now but can be future starters like Bergeron or Mauch would work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted April 27 Author Report Share Posted April 27 1 minute ago, membengal said: He didn't test. he didn't workout. He didn't do anything after day 1 of senior bowl practices. He's a genuine unknown as to weight and fitness. I see his upside, I also see that he could be worse than Carman as rookie and beyond. If we take him at 28, I will hope, but...he comes with so. many. flags. I'm willing to take that chance. If we pick D Jones, we could move on from Jonah's guaranteed contract and hang on to Collins until camp. Worst case we have the newly motivated and hard working Carman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 3 hours ago, membengal said: This really is a BAD year to need a T in the draft and be picking 28th. Just no depth and not great developmental types at all. No one floating around in the mid-rounds that you will come within a mile of starting at RT in Week 1 for instance. I guess Ford is their plan B? Right now he'd probably be the starter, right? Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 2 minutes ago, T-Dub said: I guess Ford is their plan B? Right now he'd probably be the starter, right? Yikes. No? their starter is Williams. Carman is next up. Collins maybe back in mix by October. Ford is plan Z. Like, he's here on less than a vet min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 4 hours ago, T-Dub said: Much as I'd like to see it, who plays RT? Bet it all on Gimpy Collins and a rookie? Hey that's an idea...😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 45 minutes ago, membengal said: No? their starter is Williams. Carman is next up. Collins maybe back in mix by October. Ford is plan Z. Like, he's here on less than a vet min. Williams wants out. Carman looked maybe passable at LT. Collins has yet to be healthy since he got here and is rehabbing a knee. Making Ford the current starting RT. Again, yikes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 17 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Hey that's an idea...😎 Can't believe that's their plan, has to be some late FA RT targeted in case they can't piece one together from the spare parts bin that is the current depth chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 Literally, you are making shit up about Ford because you have a weird agenda. He's, at best, their 5th best current option. It doens't matter what Jonah wants, here's here under contract. He's option 1. Carman is option 2. A recovering Collins option 3 by October. Adeniji/Smith option 4. Then Ford. At best. Again, he's here ON LESS THAN A VET MIN CONTRACT. Just...stop. Or, don't. I know you like to muckrake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 Even if the RT spot doesn’t get addressed this weekend, that doesn’t mean that it won’t get addressed before the start of season. September is a long way off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 2 minutes ago, spicoli said: Even if the RT spot doesn’t get addressed tonight, that doesn’t mean that it won’t get addressed before the start of season. September is a long way off. You're not getting anyone better than what's on the roster right now that late I to the season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 1 minute ago, Jamie_B said: You're not getting anyone better than what's on the roster right now that late I to the season Unless they can pull off getting Darnell Wright or Broderick Jones, they’re not getting better than what’s on the roster this weekend either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 1 minute ago, spicoli said: Unless they can pull off getting Darnell Wright or Broderick Jones, they’re not getting better than what’s on the roster this weekend either. Agree to disagree 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted April 28 Report Share Posted April 28 10 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Agree to disagree 🍻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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