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Free Agent Tracker

VISITS

RT Andre Smith 3-13 SIGNED

LB-Keenan Robinson 3-13 GIANTS

LB-Kevin Minter 3-15

DE-Connor Barwin 3-13 RAMS

Bengals

Burkhead 2016

Peerman 2016

LaFell 2016 BENGALS

Whitworth 2016-RAMS

Zeitler 2016

Winston 2016

Hunt 2016

Peko 2016

Gilberry 2016

Dansby 2016

Kirkpatrick 2016

Brown 2016

Others

WIDE RECEIVER

Brandon LaFell 6-3 210, 30 years old. 64-862-13.5-6 BENGALS

Kenny Stills 6-0 195, 24. 42-726-17.3-9 DOLPHINS

  • Stills is probably headed for a big payday somewhere after a solid year. Cincy is unlikely to get involved in a bidding war.

DeSean Jackson 5-10 175, 30. 56-1005-17.9-4 BUCCANEERS

  • Likely up for a big final payday. Probably too costly.

Jeremy Kerley 5-9 188, 28. 64-667-10.4-3 RE-SIGNED 49ers 3-4-2017

  • Kerley is underappreciated and undersized. He played with Dalton at TCU and was brought in for a workout last offseason. He might be too small for the outside but may fit the kind of 2nd week of free agency signing that we like to make.

Kendall Wright 5-10 191 27. 29-416-14.3-3 Bears

  • Wright had an up and down year even being inactive some weeks. He might be a possibility if no one goes after him early.

Markus Wheaton 5-11 189 26. 4-51-1 BEARS

  • Wheaton is coming off a torn labrum and won’t be healthy until April or May. The former 3rd round pick ran a 4.45 forty at the combine. He might be another one of the 2nd week in the offseason type pickups.

Ted Ginn 5-11 180 32. 54-752-13.9-4 SAINTS

  • Ginn had his second season in a row of decent receiving. At 32 there might not be a huge market for his services.

Street Free Agents/Trade

Andrew Hawkins 5-7 175 30 33-324-3

  • 2 years away from a big first year in Cleveland. Former Bengal should come at the minimum and can cover kicks

Brandon Marshall 6-4 230 33 59-788-3 GIANTS 2 years

Torrey Smith 6-0 205 23 20-267=3 Eagles

Brandin Cooks 5-10 189 23 78-1,173-8 PATRIOTS

Victor Cruz 6-0 204 30 39-586-1

  • Hasn't had over 39 catches since 2013 due to injuries. 

TACKLE

Andrew Whitworth 6-7 330, 35. 164 career starts. RAMS

Eric Winston 6-7 310, 33 125 career starts BENGALS

Andre Smith 6-4 325, 29. 77 career starts BENGALS

  • We love getting back our ex free agents. While Andre didn’t fare well last year it wouldn’t be out of the question to see him back in stripes. A triceps injury led him to start just 4 games for the Vikings.

    Byron Bell 6-5 340, 27 72 career starts

    • Bell injured his ankle, was out all of last year and was replaced by rookie Jack Conklin. Likely to be available

    Menelik Watson 6-5 315, 28 17 career starts Broncos

    • Former second rounder regained a starting position at RT by the end of the year.

    Gosder Cherilus 6-7 316, 32 116 career starts

    • Relegated to a backup role last year with 3 starts. Likely to be available.

    Jordan Mills 6-5 316, 26 50 career starts Bills

    • Started 16 games at RT for the Bills last year, a position they will look to upgrade

    Marshall Newhouse 6-4 328, 28 56 career starts

    • Newhouse started 5 games for us in 2014 and was not impressive. Since he has started 20 games for the Giants

    Ben Ijilana 6-4 322, 27 13 career starts Jets

    • Started at both RT(6) and LT (7) for the Jets this year

    Street Free Agents

    King Dunlap 6-9 330 31. 65 career starts

    • Started 12 games in 2016

    Sebastian Vollmer 6-8 320 32. 80 career starts

    • Vollmer probably won’t be back in NE after a shoulder injury put him out for the year and they signed his replacement long term

    CENTER

    Joe Hawley 6-3 302 28, 52 career starts RESIGNED

    • 29 starts over the last 2 year for the Bucs.

    John Sullivan 6-4 310 31, 94 career starts

    • Sullivan has 1 start over the last 2 year. He seems like an ideal Winston like steadying force at C that might be able to help push Bodine to improve or start in his stead

    AQ Shipley 6-1 307, 30, 38 career starts CARDS

    • Shipley started all 16 games for the Cards in 2016

    Street Free Agents

    Nick Mangold 6-4 307, 33 164 career starts

    • Local guy Mangold is on the tail end of his career but could help bring some stability to the line.

    GUARD

    Kevin Zeitler 6-4 320, 26, 71 starts BROWNS

    Luke Joeckel 6-6 312, 25, 39 starts Seahawks

    • Former #2 overall pick who didn’t find success at tackle and was moved to guard.

    Chance Warmack 6-2 323, 25, 48 starts Eagles

    • Former #10 overall pick battled injuries this year.

    Larry Warford 6-3 317, 25, 57 starts SAINTS

    • 4 year starter for the Lions

    Brian Winters 6-4 320, 25, 41 starts

    • Hudson Ohio Native and Kent St alum started 13 games this year for the Jets.

    Ron Leary 6-3 320, 27, 47 starts BRONCOS

    • 12 game starter for the Cowboys this year at LG.

    TJ Lang 6-4 318, 29, 94 starts Lions

    • 13 game starter at RG this year for the Packers.

    Vladimir Ducasse 6-5 325, 29, 30 career starts BILLS

    • Ducassse started the last 8 games of 2016 for the ravens and 11 games for the Bears in 2015

    Jahri Evans 6-4 318, 33 169 career starts

    • 11 year starter for the Saints, unlikely to move on

    Jermon Bushrod 6-5 320, 32, 112 career starts

    • Started 16 games for Dolphins last year after playing 3 for the Bears and 6 for the Saints.

    Tim Lelito 6-4 315, 27, 24 career starts Titans

    • 4 year veteran all with Saints, 7 starts 2016, 13 starts 2015.

    Ted Larsen 6-2 315, 29, 65 career starts Dolphins

    • Started 8 games for the Bears in 2016

    Chris Chester 6-3 303, 34, 143 career starts

    • Chester has started the last 32 games straight for the Falcons, and before that 64 straight for the Redskins.

    Street Free Agents

    DJ Fluker 6-5 339, 25, 59 career starts

    • Started 16 games last year

    Breno Giocamimi 6-7 318, 31, 70 career starts

    • Started 5 games last year in NY. Played at Louisville in College. Recovering from back surgery

    QUARTERBACK

    Mike Glennon-Buccaneers BEARS

    • Glennon is the top candidate on the market who is most likely to change teams. He played sparingly this year with only 10 completions on 11 attempts. His career stats paint a very good picture. 18 starts, 4100 yards, 30-15 and 59%.

    Brian Hoyer-Bears 49ers

    • Hoyer had some quality starts for the Bears this year and wasn’t terrible for the Texans in 2015. He has 31 career starts and a passer rating of 98 in 2016 and 91.4 in 2015. This year he had 1,445 yards, 6-0 and 67%. He’s played for 5 teams in his career.

    Landry Jones-Stealers STEALERS

    • Jones has 4 starts over his career with the Stealers. This year he has filled in well with 558 yards, 4-2 and 61%.

    Matt Barkley-Bears 49ers

    • Barkley wasn’t good enough for the Cardinals or the Eagles but was ok at times for the Bears. He had the only 6 starts of his career this season throwing for 1,611 yards, 8-14 and 59.7%. He had 3 300 yard games.

    Geno Smith-Jets Giants

    • Smith has 30 career starts but is coming off an ACL tear and a broken jaw.

    Ryan Fitzpatrick-Jets

    • Fitzpatrick held out and then played very poorly with 12 tds and 17 ints. He is a veteran though with 116 career starts.

    Case Keenum-Rams

    • Keenum started for most of the year and was not inspiring. He’s got 25 career starts in Houston and LA. This year he threw for 2,201 yards, 9-11 and 61%.

    Blaine Gabbert-49ers

    • Gabbert started 5 games this year and wasn’t great although he had didn’t have much of a supporting cast either. Finished with 925 yards, 5-6 and 56.9%. Also ran in a couple scores.

    Matt Cassell-Titans TITANS

    • The 34 year old Cassell has started 80 career games including one this year for the Titans and 7 last year for the Cowboys.

    TJ Yates-Dolphins

    • Yates didn’t play this year but has 7 career starts and is just 29. He also has that playoff win against us a few year backs with the Texans.

    Christian Ponder-49ers

    • The former first rounder is only 28 and has 36 career starts all with the Vikings in his first 4 years.

    Street Free Agents

    Nick Foles-Chiefs Eagles

    • Foles has 35 career starts and a lifetime 88.1 passer rating. He is on his 3rd team despite being just 27. This year he threw for 410 yards, 3-0 and 65%. He is due 10.75 Million in 2017 with 0 dead cap.

    Chase Daniel-Eagles

    • 6-0 225 30. Would like to see him get a chance to start

    Colin Kaepernick-49ers

    • Kaepernick was replaced by Gabbert then won the job back. The 29 year old has 59 career starts. This year he had 2,241 yards, 16-4 and 59% and 2 tds on the ground.

    Austin Davis-Broncos

    • Davis is currently a Free Agent. He has 10 career starts and had a decent season with the Rams in 2014 with 12-9 2001 yards and 63.4% and a 85.1 passer rating.  

    RUNNING BACK

    Rex Burkhead 5-10 210, 26, 1 career start PATRIOTS

    Denard Robinson 6-0 213, 26, 13 career starts

    • Robinson is one of those enigma players who seems to have loads of ability but never really produces. He would be a guy who I would add to the end of the roster if no one grabs him when free agency slows way down. Might also be a good replacement if Burkhead leaves. His second year was his best with 582 rushing yards and 23 catches. Then they added Yeldon

    Andre Ellington 5-9 199, 27, 15 career start Cardinals

    • Ellington had great rookie and second years and then fell off. David Johnson has taken control of almost all of the carries there. He is another guy that would be a nice end of the bench guy if he doesn’t find a home in free agency.

    Street Free Agents

    James Wilder 6-1 232, 24

    • Wilder is currently a free agent. I would love for him to come back for camp. His highlight reel from college is great and I think he could be an eventual Peerman replacement. I am irrational about him.

    TIGHT END

    Gavin Escobar 6-6 251, 25

    • Escobar fits the mold of TE’s we like. The former 2nd rounder has been very poor with just 30 catches over his first 4 years. He might be the type of end of free agency TE prospect that fills a hole for the beginning of the season if Eifert’s back isn’t ready.

    Tim Wright 6-4 220, 26

    • Wright is coming off a missed season on the Lions IR with a torn ACL. Wright had a great rookie year with the Bucs, then moved on to the Pats and then didn’t do much with the Lions. Similar to Escobar he might fit a role as a fringe roster Free Agent who can catch passes with Eifert out.

    Street Free Agents

    DEFENSIVE END

    Charles Johnson 6-2 275, 30 PANTHERS

    • 26 tackles 4 sacks.

    Dion Jordan 6-6 275, 26 NOT a Free Agent

    • The former 3rd overall pick has not played in the last 2 years due to injuries and suspensions. Just three total sacks.

    Wallace Gilberry 6-2 270, 32

    Street Free Agents

    Elvis Dumervil 5-11 250, 33

    • 11 tackles 2 sacks 2016

    Connor Barwin 6-4 264, 34 Rams

    • Former UC Footballer and Basketballer that will save them 7.75 million if released. 34-5 2 passes defensed. 7 sacks in 2015, 14.5 in 2014.

    Jared Odrick 6-5 298, 29

    • Odrick dealt with injuries all year playing just 6 games. The Jags save 8.5 million by cutting him. 12 tackles 1 sack.

    DEFENSIVE TACKLE

    Domato Peko 6-3 325, 32 Broncos

    Nick Fairley 6-4 308, 29 SAINTS

    • 43 tackles, 6.5 sacks. Fairley would have been a great pick up last season. He likely priced himself out of our market.

    Chris Jones 6-1 295, 26 49ers

    • Jones is a perfect addition IMO. Adds to the mix at dt and will come very cheap. 23 tackles in 2016. Had some solid seasons with the Pats before injury. Has incredible strength and could be a solid rotational guy on the very cheap.

    Bennie Logan 6-2 315, 27 Chiefs

    • 24 tackles and 2.5 sacks in 2016 after 55 tackles in 2015.

    Karl Klug 6-3 278, 28 Titans

    • Likely more of a DE or hybrid in our system. Tore his Achilles in December so he will come very cheap. 26 tackles and 1.5 sacks.

    Street Free Agents/TRADE

    Sheldon Richardson 6-3 294, 26

    • Jets won’t be able to pay Richardson so he has been on the market. 62 tackles, 1.5 sacks.

    LINEBACKER

    Dansby 6-3 251, 35 CARDINALS

    John Simon 6-1 260, 26 Colts

    • 51 tackles, 3.5 sacks. Simon fought injuries at the end of the year.

    Alex Okafor 6-4 261, 25 Cardinals

    • 13 tackles, 3.5 sacks, 8 sacks 2014

    Akeem Ayers 6-3 255, 27 Rams

    • 21 tackles, 2 sacks

    Sam Acho 6-3 260, 28

    • 27 tackles, 1 sack

    Jelani Jenkins 6-0 240, 24 Raiders

    • 29 tackles, 110 tackles 2014, 71 tackles 2015. Seems like a possible high upside signing.

    Zach Brown 6-1 248, 27

    • 149 tackles, 4 sacks, 1 int 4 pass break ups. I wanted Brown last year and want him again. Great year probably took him out of our market

    Nick Bellore 6-1 250, 27

    • 83 tackles, 1 sack, 1 int. Usual special teamer that filled in well due to injuries. Likely doesn’t have coverage skills we covet.

    Sean Spence 5-11 231, 26

    • 54 tackles, 3 sacks. Very athletic former Steeler. Might fit well in the rotation.

    Sean Weatherspoon 6-2 244, 29

    • Ruptured Achilles after many previous injuries. Could be an ideal 2nd week+ pickup. 27 tackles in 4 games. Looked like he was going to have a great season before his injury. He is often injured.

    Keenan Robinson 6-3 238, 27 Giants

    • 83 tackles, 7 passes defensed

    Bruce Carter 6-2 240, 28

    • 16 tackles in 2016

    Street Free Agents

    SAFETY

    Barry Church 6-2 218, 28 JAGUARS

    • 85 tackles, 2ints, 4 passes defensed. He played in 12 games

    Tony Jefferson 5-11 212, 25 JAGUARS

    • 96 tackles, 2 sacks, 0 ints, 5 passes defensed

    Chris Conte 6-2 203, 27 BUCS

    • 69 tackles, 2ints, 5 passes defensed

    Bradley McDougald 6-1 209, 26 Seahawks

    • 91 tackles, 2ints, 10 passes defensed

    Donte Whitmer 5-10 208, 31

    • 66 tackles

    Michael Thomas-Dolphins 5-11 193, 26

    • 58 tackles 1 sack 1 pass defensed

    Kemal Ishmael 6-0 206, 25

    • 52 tackles, 2 passes defensed

    Baccari Rambo 6-0 221, 26

    • 42 tackles, 1int, 3 passes defensed

    Jordan Poyer 6-0 191, 25 Bills

    • 39 tackles, 2 passes defensed

    Rashad Johnson-Titans 5-11 204, 31 Titans

    • 38 tackles, 1 pass defensed

    Matt Elam 5-10 208, 25

    • 4 tackles

    Robert Blanton 6-1 200, 27

    • 35 tackles

    Street Free Agents

    CORNERBACK

    Dre Kirkpatrick 6-2 185, 27 BENGALS

      Sam Shields 5-11 184, 29

      • Concussions led him to play just 1 game in 2016 and might end his career

      Terrance Newman 5-10 197, 38

      • Newman was solid in his year 38 season with 38 tackles, 1 int, 8 passes defensed

      Tramon Williams 6-0 192, 33

      • 36 tackles, 1 int, 5 passes defensed

      Leon Hall 5-11 195, 32

      • 31 tackles, 1int, 2 passes defense

      Street Free Agents

      Davon House 6-0 200 27 Packers

      • 17 tackles 2016, 60 tackles 4 ints 23 passes defensed 2015

      Brandon Flowers 5-9 187 31

      • 28 tackles 1 int 5 passes defensed in 6 games in 2016. Concussion knocked him out otherwise

      Darrell Revis 5-11 198 31

      • Guaranteed 6 million from Jets. Would literally have to get paid more or be playing for free. 53 tackles, 1 int, 5 passes defensed.

      Sharece Wright 5-11 184, 29

      • 52 tackles, 6 passes defensed

      Leodis McKelvin 5-10 185, 31

      • McKelvin is at the end of his career. He had 43 tackles, 2 ints and 16 passes defensed this year. Can return punts and kicks as well

      KICKER

      Dawson 42 16-18 53 Long 97% xp CARDINALS

      Zuerlein 29 16-19 54 Long 100% xp

      Gould 35 10-10 47 Long 87% xp 49ers

      Street Free Agents

      Folk 32 27-31 51 Long 92% xp Bucs

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      Current Roster

      QB Dalton 2020 McCarron 2017 Driskel 2019      
      RB Bernard 2019 Hill 2017 Burkhead 2016 Peerman 2016 Carson 2017  
      HB Hewitt 2019          
      WR Green 2019 Core 2019 Kumerow 2018      
      WR LaFell 2016 Wright 2017 Brown 2018      
      WR Boyd 2019 Erickson 2018 Russell 2018      
      TE Eifert 2017 Kroft 2018 Uzomah 2018      
      LT Whitworth 2016 Fisher 2018        
      LG Boling 2019 Westerman 2019 Redmond 2018      
      C Bodine 2017 Johnson 2016        
      RG Zeitler 2016 Hopkins 2017        
      RT Ogbouehi 2018 Winston 2016        
                   
      K Bullock 2018 Brown 2017        
      P Huber 2017          
      LS Harris 2017          
                   
      LE Dunlap 2018 Clarke 2017 Hunt 2016 Brown 2018    
      LT Peko 2016 Sims 2017 Billings 2019 Dean 2018    
      RT Atkins 2018 Williams 2017 Thompson 2017      
      RE Johnson 2018 Gilberry 2016 Hardison 2018      
      SLB Dansby 2016 Dawson 2018 Albright 2018      
      MLB Maualuga 2017 Vigil 2019        
      WLB Burfict 2017 Rey 2018 Flowers 2017      
      S Williams 2020 Smith 2018        
      S Iloka 2020 Fejedelem 2019        
      CB Jones 2018 Dennard 2017 Benwikere 2017      
      CB Kirkpatrick 2016 Jackson 2020 Brown 2016      
      CB Shaw 2018 Russell 2019 McRae 2018      
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      Adding Nick Folk at Kicker and Breno Giacomimi to the list. 

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      Is there a list somewhere of only the guys who have been cut by their previous teams?

      We can argue about the merits of it for the millionth time, but if Zeitler leaves, the Bengals aren't going to give up the 3rd round comp. pick by signing another unrestricted FA.

      They are most likely going to concentrate on the guys like LaFell and Dansby last year who were cut by their teams and didn't impact us getting 11 picks this spring.

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      Don't know if they would do Mangold, but he is a centerville guy. Bengals fan growing up. 

      ETA: Could Bodine play guard? Would be interesting if we could add Mangold and lose Zeitler. 

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      8 minutes ago, JC said:

      Don't know if they would do Mangold, but he is a centerville guy. Bengals fan growing up. 

      ETA: Could Bodine play guard? Would be interesting if we could add Mangold and lose Zeitler. 

       

      Or keep Zeitler and add Mangold.  Or continue to treat the guard position as an afterthought like our interior OL wasn't getting destroyed through most of the season & costing us games.  That's also an option.

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      mangold is finished. he may be better than bodine, but thats not saying much. 

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      1 hour ago, T-Dub said:

       

      Or keep Zeitler and add Mangold.  Or continue to treat the guard position as an afterthought like our interior OL wasn't getting destroyed through most of the season & costing us games.  That's also an option.

      This.

      How this club addresses the offensive line, in particular, this offseason, will likely be a decent barometer of how much overall success we can hope to have in 2017. They need to be aggresssive to keep the parts that work, fix the parts that don't. If they struggle to do this, we're likely in for a long, miserable season again.

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      9 minutes ago, thezerawkid said:

      This.

      How this club addresses the offensive line, in particular, this offseason, will likely be a decent barometer of how much overall success we can hope to have in 2017. They need to be aggresssive to keep the parts that work, fix the parts that don't. If they struggle to do this, we're likely in for a long, miserable season again.

       

      What concerns me is that they seem to have bought into the BS about having a great pass-blocking group rather than a great short-to-intermediate passing offense that's covered for a struggling OL.  Their rushing numbers have been shit for a long time and then they started lining up Hill without a lead blocker despite carrying a talented pure FB on the roster.

      I know I keep coming back to this but it's at least as much the coaching as the players & the depth chart is a much easier fix.

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      Whatever any body does...PLEASE do not quote the first post in this thread! 

      While wonderful information, it was like running in hardening concrete. 

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      Can teams sign free agents now that have been cut or do they have to wait until the official start of free agency?

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      Shake things up!  Sign Alshon Jeffries to play across from AJ.  :D

      Not really serious about Jeffries (am serious about shaking things up).  The OLine needs more than just a draft pick.  Unfortunately I foresee the return of Sugar Tits.

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      41 minutes ago, big_dish said:

      Can teams sign free agents now that have been cut or do they have to wait until the official start of free agency?

      Cap casualties can be signed immediately. 

      Some teams are waiting and I think waiting to re-sign there own players because there is a confusing minimum cap rule where they take the total number spent over 5 years or so and you have to spend over that. Everyone made that number for the last 5 years and it restarts March 9th. Teams are waiting to announce or sign those deals until then. I think it likely leads to much more player movement than usual. 

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      I would see no downside with returning Andre Smith here. 

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      On 2/25/2017 at 5:05 PM, T-Dub said:

       

      What concerns me is that they seem to have bought into the BS about having a great pass-blocking group rather than a great short-to-intermediate passing offense that's covered for a struggling OL.  Their rushing numbers have been shit for a long time and then they started lining up Hill without a lead blocker despite carrying a talented pure FB on the roster.

      I know I keep coming back to this but it's at least as much the coaching as the players & the depth chart is a much easier fix.

      Totally. 

       

      This was a Zamp move, no?

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      Updated and it's super pretty now. Marvel at it's wonder. 

      Please tell me anyone to add as well. 

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      Trumaine Johnson tagged by the Rams is official.

      Dre Kirk inching closer and closer to having some big money thrown at him by CB needy teams if he hits free agency. We need to lock him up.

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      The Center position makes the most sensible and affordable place to start in free agency. Joe Hawley and Nick Mangold would be instant upgrades and a bridge to an eventual new starter drafted in 2017

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      1 hour ago, omgdrdoom said:

      Trumaine Johnson tagged by the Rams is official.

      Dre Kirk inching closer and closer to having some big money thrown at him by CB needy teams if he hits free agency. We need to lock him up.

      lolz...why would the Bengals do that when they have Pacman on the roster?

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      7 minutes ago, PatternMaster said:

      lolz...why would the Bengals do that when they have Pacman on the roster?

      Well, here's what I'm HOPING for.

      Pacman will actually save us more money if we cut him on June 2nd or later. We could always designate him to a post-June 1st cut, but that would give more leverage to Dre. I think there's a chance the team keeps Adam Jones on the roster until the actual deadline instead of using the post June 1st designation to use as a tool in Kirkpatrick's negotiations.

      This could be totally incorrect and the Bengals could actually be planning to keep Jones around, but there's no way to really know 100% either way at this point.

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      7 minutes ago, omgdrdoom said:

      Well, here's what I'm HOPING for.

      Pacman will actually save us more money if we cut him on June 2nd or later. We could always designate him to a post-June 1st cut, but that would give more leverage to Dre. I think there's a chance the team keeps Adam Jones on the roster until the actual deadline instead of using the post June 1st designation to use as a tool in Kirkpatrick's negotiations.

      This could be totally incorrect and the Bengals could actually be planning to keep Jones around, but there's no way to really know 100% either way at this point.

      How much could they save if they cut him after June 1st?

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      16 minutes ago, PatternMaster said:

      How much could they save if they cut him after June 1st?

      If they cut him now it's cap relief of $6,833,332. Post June 1st it becomes $7,500,000, a difference of $666,668.

      Edit: but to be clear, that $666,668 would go onto 2018's salary figure, the relief is just for this year.

      He was signed to a 3 year deal with $2M signing bonus. So that's about $666.666k per year when it's spread out in the 3 years toward the cap. That money HAS to go against our salary cap at some point ($666,666k owed this year and next, the first 3rd already paid of course), but the Bengals have the opportunity to control whether it's all in 2017 or spread into 2018 by when they cut him, or designate to cut him. 

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      5 hours ago, BengalFanInTO said:

      The Center position makes the most sensible and affordable place to start in free agency. Joe Hawley and Nick Mangold would be instant upgrades and a bridge to an eventual new starter drafted in 2017

      Completely disagree. 

      Not that PFF grades are everything, but last year Mangold was graded 78.0. Hawley was 76.0. Bodine was 77.4...

      So you're spending extra money to get older, arguably add a worse player and have to have that player learn the offense. It makes no sense. 

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      On 3/1/2017 at 5:56 PM, happyrid said:

      Completely disagree. 

      Not that PFF grades are everything, but last year Mangold was graded 78.0. Hawley was 76.0. Bodine was 77.4...

      So you're spending extra money to get older, arguably add a worse player and have to have that player learn the offense. It makes no sense. 

      How do you see their grades? 249 a month?

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