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I'd like to see a better running game. It would make the offense more versatile and harder to stop. 3rd and 2 is usually a passing down for the Bengals but if we could run better, we'd convert at a higher rate. But we couldn't run because our interior offensive line are bad at run blocking. Karras at least was good at pass blocking, Volson and Cappa not so much. If we had a good running game, as our 80s Super Bowl teams did, we'd have an elite offense. We could close out games with a 4th quarter lead. We could play in windy or wet conditions. We'd be less predictable and put more stress on opposing defenses. Ken Anderson and Boomer Esiason were NFL MVPs on teams with good running games. Maybe that would work for Joe Burrow too.

It would be less frustrating if it wasn't a pattern of behavior on the part of Katie and Co. Every year it's some camp holdout. Every year we're one of the last to get our rookies signed. I mean - Is the agent the problem? Sure, that's his job. But it's not like other agents aren't problems for other teams. Tee changed agents to find someone more compatible with the Bengals and there was still some teeth pulling. Is Trey just greedy? Then so is Chase, Higgins... The NFL pays out a lot in salary because it makes a lot of money off these guys. Meh. Should Stewart just roll over and accept new language because other teams do it? Sure, maybe, but Mims was the last to sign... Hill didn't go down smooth either. All of the names change in these very similar stories except those of the Blackburn clan. I mean.... Damn. What a run of bad luck, hunh? I guess nice guys really do finish last. What are the odds that both of our RDE's have idiot agents and would rather talk to the media than play football. Why us? Life is unfair. Everyone's judged by their mistakes divided by how much money they make.

By the way, I passed my FAA Medical Exam this afternoon. My flight status has been restored, I'm a pilot again. :)

laziness. no one researches anymore, like 3 guys have inside info, if that, aside from that the "media" isnt exactly filled with people who have degrees in journalism, worked thier way up, build relationships, its a bunch of dudes like you and me, who started a youtube podcast, and just have done it the longest, hell i had a media pass for the bengals just from having this forum back in the day. and thats when there was KIND of some criteria to meet.. I could get a media pass today, no problem. so you cant possible watch any of these podcast or media twitter accounts and think these guys are leaving their office chair and actually doing stuff right? even at practice and camp, 5-20 media folks stand there with their iphones, record clips for twitter, joke with eachother, talk about lunch, use said phone to poorly record interviews, all think the same thing, and post it.. they need followers they need hits, they need shares, they need subscribers.. the #1 only thing they do not need what so ever.. is to be right or put in effort or learn anything. the bengals PR team sends them information to release, and they do it, rarely, as the bengals dont do contract stuff in the media, but other things, health stuff signing stuff, etc.. then agents reach out, look at the video i posted... Dingleberry did his own fact checking and contract details around the league.. the stewerts agent reached out to him, pissed and got him to sway back some.. why? because goodberry needs that connect, and if he does his bidding a little, when goodberry reaches out, the agent might reply. 15 years ago, guys would chase down family members, get a cousin to leak info, fat boy andre smiths agent, alvin keels emailed me then text me wanting me to post positive stuff about him during the contract issues, and the proof? it works. look at all of you, look at everyone on social media.. they dont care about any of the facts, its easy and lazy to zap the bengals, they wont dispute or fight back, they ignore it.. so they are easy to slander.. and everyone gets an east post, podcast episode (or 10), no one cares about the facts or details, not even a little bit. no one cares about anything, they just wanna check a box for their day, get some clicks if possible, and go back to doom scrolling on instagram and twitter. all of the sports media, scouts sites, analysts, all for show and clicks, look at collinsowrth, he doesnt give a fuck about anything, he wants some zingers for the show and to go home. and everyone behaves as if we have good reliable crack journalism. its laughable. how many different stories over what the "language" in the contract relates to have been posted in this thread alone? 8? 5? a whole lot more than 1... how many weeks did it take for ANYONE to bring to light that the language is in the majority of first round contracts, its just new for the bengals to add it.... ? hell the hundred or so people who supposidly love and follow the team and gobble every media tidbit there is, still think mike brown is in these contract negotiations. people believe what they want. facts arent a part of the equation any longer. havent been in 10 years.

I never said that the media is lying. I am saying that they are not always telling both sides. That's dishonesty by omission. You're on crack if you don't think that the media piles on. There are plenty of teams with far less recent success than the bengals. Name one other team that the media constantly bashes like they do the bengals. Even the turds get more respect than we do. I think there's an agenda and you patronizing me and repeating the same thing over and over again isn't going to convince me otherwise. I never said anything about signing Trey one way or the other. But I don't think that it is a no brainer that they should give him whatever he wants. He's already under contract. There are considerations.

That is a common reaction people have to hearing anything bad about their side. It's the same phenomena that creates the "fake news" dialog. Assuming that 100's of people have some personal beef with Mike Brown, or by extension, the Bengals... If they do, it's because Mike Brown is an asshole. Sure, maybe they don't like us... Because our ownership is so UNLIKEABLE. Sure, Jerry Jones probably finds Mike Brown to be an obstinate prick who cheaps out and collects all that sweet revenue sharing... Because he is. It's not unfair for people to dislike the Bengals when they are unlikeable. Do I think there's some Illuminati conspiracy to... What exactly? Do I think that Paul Dehner, Lance McAlister and Pat McAfee are all in some text chain saying "Guys, lets all spread these lies about the Bengals!" Put down the crack pipe bro. I worked in various forms of news media for 20 years. They're mostly just lazy and incompetent. Paul Dehner is going to be a little more "pro-team" because that's his source... And frankly, this still comes back on the FO for not doing the PR. If it's a "one sided story", it's because the FO refuses to tell their side. They famously don't talk to the media. However, MANY posters like to just sweep all valid criticism of the NFL's most useless FO under that same "fake news" banner. Attack the source, not the reporting. Sure everything they say sounds true... But Pat McAfee said it and he has a dumb haircut. And that guy has never liked the NFL's most incompetent franchise! Fake news! It's not a conspiracy... It's the Bengals having a reputation. They're calling your girlfriend a slut because she's slept with half of Toledo, not because they have some agenda against her purity. I'd be curious... Why? Why do you think "The Media" has it out for Mike Brown and the Bengals? Because they've been historically shitty owners? They just hate small market teams? Revenge of Art Modell? Why? Because they've made themselves easy punching bags for half a century? I'd bet that your reasons are going to be that the Bengals have a BAD reputation. It's earned criticism/hate. And then maybe you'll start to see that it's not a conspiracy - it's something the Bengals FO earned over 40 years. It's a reputation. And you're sitting here going "How dare they keep assuming that the village idiot is going to do idiotic things??" "Fake news, so unfair." "Adam Schefter only talks to agents." This is a team with $32M in cap space who can't decide IF they want to sign the league's best pass rusher. And in the middle of THAT holdout, they decided to play contract games with his replacement. But yes, the Media is sooooo unfair to assume the Bengals are idiots for being in this situation. How dare they call a spade a spade. And somehow... You're in here defending not wanting to sign the league's best pass rusher?? So, explain to me why the Media and the NFL have always had it out for the Bengals in a way that is "unfair". Because I think it's a biggol' serving of cope.

2 years into an NFL career and he's learned he needs to be in good shape. Who knows what's next? Paying attention in meetings? Watching film? The sky's the limit!

Bengals offseason blueprint: 1. Sign Jamar & hopefully Tee - Check 2. Extend Trey 3. Draft a young Edge 4. Sign a veteran interior OL 5. Super Bowl Easy Peasy Wrong. I stupidly had come to think that Mikey boy had failed to pass the Douche Baggery gene on to the grandkids. WRONG. Give Henderson the $30-32M/yr. you're gonna end up giving him anyway, sign Stewart to a fair 17th pick slot deal and sign either Risner or Scherff as insurance at guard to protect - you know - the FUCKING FRACHISE! Tired of the bullshit dick-swinging games!

New Yoshi logo just dropped

Ja'Marr and Burton came to Knoxville, Tennessee for Tee's celebrity basketball game.

Ja'Marr's first ever Bengals TD is cinematic art 🎥 o0lX-hXBdycwNTF0.mp4

Well, he can enjoy a year off from football then. If he can’t trust himself to conduct himself like a professional I don’t want him. Went thru a decade of dumbass players making the Bengals look like shit. BTW, Abdul Carter, signed his contract, which includes the now-controversial (for a Bengals player that is) provision. I guess Carter has more faith in himself. The Burton fiasco last year was bad enough although these particular clauses would not have cost him money.

I thought the CBA covered the "conduct detrimental", refunds due for suspensions, off-field stuff? "Similar" language is not identical. It's possible the Bengals are still trying to do it their way instead of imitating everyone else. My hunch is the team's still in their feels over Ja'Marr/Tee & Trey. Suddenly they want to keep up with the rest of the league? Since when? And over this? Eating a first round bust is part of doing business in the NFL. If it happens too often, go hire better evaluators instead of trying to wring that money back out of the next first round pick and make better picks. If they won't do that but don't have the stomach for the risk they need to step away from the high-stakes table. Maybe sell it off to someone who doesn't need NFL matching funds to pay their bills. Owning a pro sports franchise is like end-game gambling, to be treated like a racehorse. It's the big-boy prestige item, "how we name royalty in this country" to paraphrase Billions. It's not the corner deli & no place for the cautious, safe, and timid. Honestly the Browns/Blackburns may own this team but they act more like they're only managing it. It's a line on a graph to them. Team culture, once again.

The people have spoken. Champions 🏆🐯

A few months ago he went 144 when he was supposed to be going 25.

So... Are they not lazy in covering the other 31 teams? https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2025/06/17/bengals-crushed-earned-reputation-contract-standoffs-hendrickson-shemar-stewart/84245705007/ Their history overshadows the fact that Hendrickson signed a short contract extension recently, is 30 years old, was granted permission to seek a trade and has walked back previous holdout threats. Cincinnati’s history also, ironically enough, overshadows the fact that attempting to revise contract leverage, starting with Stewart, is another attempt at modernizing, considering some reporting says the language they want to insert is pretty standard for other teams. The media has always been lazy. This golden age where these guys did leave their office chair is something from Nick at Nite. If that age did exist, you'd need to be in your 80's to remember it. A lazy media will always fall back to what Cincy's reputation is... And this is a team not 15 years removed from having their Franchise QB refuse to play for them for non-monetary reasons. You want fair media.... Bengalswire seems to get that we're victims of our reputation. Paul Dehner takes the team's side quite often because that's his source. Are you mad that ALL Bengals coverage isn't slanted the way you prefer? The Family are Billionaires in a VERY public enterprise. The fact that they can't manage their PR is not good. It's not a sign that they're more down to earth, or more "real". It's more of a sign that the NFL's worst FO doesn't "get it". Are the Bengals losing in the court of public opinion? Yes. Is that fair? I think so. Is the Judge who convicts you unfair when you show up without a lawyer and refuse to speak on your own behalf? Or do you say "What a lazy judge! He should have left his bench and gone and done an investigation! He can't expect me to hire a guy to give him my side of the story!" You've watched MacAfee... They read shit off the wire and then talk about it. That has been "Journalism" since the 80's when people read shit off the wire and talked about it. Now we just have a lot more sources than the AP. Frankly, you're a lil' dim if you think they're doing much else. You think 6 brohams sitting around are supposed to have Katie on Speed Dial? And what would she say if she did answer? How do you know they didn't call her? Adam Schefter is the "rumor" guy. His job is to report juicy rumors... Is it his job to NOT post what an agent tells him because Katie refuses to talk to him? Do you think he's refusing to talk to Katie? The Bengals have an earned reputation and have done nothing to change the narrative. The coverage they get is fair. Everything else is people whining because they're hearing things they don't like.

Lol probably not even in the top 50 worst fan bases. But in terms of worst ownership in professional sports, they’re definitely on the short list.

They've got the fanbase they deserve

This never gets old.

Cordell Vollson hasn't allowed a sack in five months.

"Look at me, I'm the league MVP now."

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Chase is on the cover of all the fantasy football magazines and projected to go #1 in most drafts ...

The Athletic - What we learned from each team in offseason workouts. Cincinnati BengalsThe Bengals found exactly what they were looking for in second-round pick Demetrius Knight Jr. The linebacker was slotted into the starting spot alongside Logan Wilson immediately and brought stability despite this being his first time on an NFL practice field. He’s older (24) with more experience, which made his addition look and feel more like a free-agent signing than draft pick. Players view him as a future leader of the defense already and with all captains gone from last year’s group, defensive coordinator Al Golden is on the hunt for exactly that. — Paul Dehner Jr.

And the fact that the team had not used it previously is meaningless. It isn’t some off the wall unique contract, it’s a standard contract for many teams.

Good lord. You can't draft a guy at #17 and then go "But you suck so accept this crappy contract." WTF???

Meh, guy has even refused to sign an injury clause which all rookies sign. The idea that somehow the Bengals are not allowed to use the same language many teams use to protect themselves from knucklehead behavior is kind of laughable. Actual training camp hasn’t started so I am not worried yet. Never liked the pick anyways. He didn’t produce in college based on his draft slot, seems to be another underwear warrior like John Ross although Ross actually did produced in college.

Big boomer energy there Harry lol

So kind of her to let Joe sleep on her couch while he's in town shopping for a new pair of jeans since his old ones are all worn out and full of holes.

It's nice to have an all-time franchise QB that should be allowed in a room with kids. Not everyone can stay that. l Imagine paying for Xitter clout. So exclusive! It's like making a reservation at an Arby's.

Working backwards.. Lou is shouldering the blame for an awful lot. Some of it deserved, IDK, easy for the players and everyone else to pile on now that he's the official scapegoat. How he was using the roster is debatable. What's obvious to me is that the defensive roster was mismanaged from the top down. Geno Stone's comfort level won't make him Jessie Bates. Sheldon Rankins was a choice. Even without bird flu he's not DJ Reader. Midround rookies as the backups for both the new guy & Hill - that was another decision. The talent level has fallen off in general. Did Lou do all that? Was he blowing smoke up everyone's ass about his depth chart or did someone else at least sign off on these decisions? We know Tobin is teflon, worst that could happen to him is a happy retirement with much appreciation for his 30 year tenure & fond memories of when Joe & Ja'Marr dragged them all to a Super Bowl that one time. What does he do exactly other than cover for ownership? Reports of who precisely is responsible for what in Bengals HQ changes depending on which way the wind is blowing. Scapegoats abound. It seems a 403-479-5 franchise record is hunky-dory to them. They'll get 'em next time! That's where a team's culture comes from - not from a new slogan on this year's camp swag. As for Stewart.. He has a chance to be a good DE, eventually. Start him before he's ready and he may never get there. I don't think anyone really wants Ossai starting instead, but that's what they've got. We gonna blame Lou for that as well?

And the bengals were robbed that game on those calls and z Jeremy hills knee was down !

My understanding is that the default language being proposed in Stewart’s contract is used by much of the NFL. A prominent example is with Jameson Williams and Detroit, where his gambling suspension voided the guaranteed money in his rookie deal. He still wound up earning the same amount, but it was no longer guaranteed and they could have cut him and held on to the money. It’s not like this is controversial or shady as more than half the league has used similar language in their contracts. The issue to me is the approach the team has used to this point. They could have offered some type of incentive to Stewart in exchange for accepting the language since he’s the first Bengals player to be subject to it. That kind of basic compromise would be better than a stalemate ending with a pissed off player who’s missed all on-field work so far. Their hardball tactics are the main reason he didn’t sign the injury waiver and instead sat out.

Being petty with your first round pick and hopefully franchise cornerstone is not a wise choice either.

BEST WR DUO in the NFL

I agree even though their coach is the biggest cry baby in professional sports ever

We got this 🐯

whats the date, realistically, that any of this actually matters? First day of camp? First preseason game? First regular season game? Its tough to pretend it matters before camp. he was involved in everything except slapping some tackle dummies around so far.. so i cant force myself to be upset so far..

Iosivas is now up to 220 pounds. Geoff Hobson article excerpt: The guy puts on about 15 pounds over the offseason and finds out he's better than ever at 220. "I think it's helping me," Iosivas says. "I'm stronger out of my breaks. Quicker. I can put more power into the ground so I can push off faster. People's bodies are built differently. When I put on the weight, it was beneficial to me. Not detrimental. I'm still fast. If I'm the same speed, but heavier, who cares? Run through some tackles."

If the Bengals moved to another city, they would be dead to me. It would be hard to root against the current players, but it would be REALLY EASY to root against Mike Brown, Katie, and the rest of the front office. I'm old enough to remember when the Cincinnati Royals Basketball team moved to Kansas City. After they left, I stopped following the NBA.

Have NEVER been a fan of the "Nemo pants". Instant upgrade if they just color in the white space.

I've been saying this for years. The local media and ESPECIALLY The Castellini Propaganda Machine (Enquirer) can never fairly report on the Bengals. Especially that dope Jason Williams who loves going on the radio to shit on the Bengals for the stadium deal and current negotiations while applauding the Reds for their continued efforts to be competitive. Uh, wut? lol. Bengals would win the Super Bowl and in April there would be some pointless article about the stadium deal.

If someone steals your wallet, are you going to accuse the Nun, the Priest, or the Ex-Con? After all, the Ex-Con SWEARS that the Nun did it. He even offered me some crack he'd just bought with some money he "found". Since Carson forced his way out of Cincy, this has been the status quo for the club... Why do you expect people to still have faith that the Bengals know what they're doing? That after numerous players have straight up called them liars over multiple years, why do you expect the Media to blindly trust them? Trey is lying. Stewart is lying. Tee was lying last year, and so was Jamarr. Bates lied, Whitworth is still lying... The only person we can trust is the cold reclusive billionaire who refuses to talk to the media. Got it. Because Katie could clear up this confusion if she cared to... But it seems the club prefers to leak anonymously to Paul Dehner. Heck, their lack of response invites the speculation.

Seriously. My YouTube feed is just a constant flow of "Boy do the Bengals suck." I was almost going to post Grossi and Perna's video.... But it seemed like pouring water on a drowning man. Hearing Bengals fans get called "the worst" on MacAfee. Care what they think or not... The Bengals are a joke again. We have officially spent all of the goodwill that we earned going to the big dance. Thanks to the CBA, getting a Rookie deal done is EASY. And no matter what, they're cheap by NFL standards. Not extending Trey was missing a layup. The Stewart situation is blowing the dunk, smashing your face into the rim and then having the ball hit you in the nads on the way down. Mike and Katie should sell the team just to avoid further embarrassment. I was hopeful with Katie... She seemed cut from a different cloth back in the Marvin days. Over the last two offseasons, she's proven to be shitty in ways Mike Brown lacked the imagination for. I said before - not getting Tee, Jamarr, and Trey signed was basically malpractice. And now I'm looking at a team with $32M in cap space who can't figure how to get the league's leading pass rusher signed. Meanwhile, they're measuring dicks with the guy they drafted to replace him. Frikkin' ponderous. Or, as you put it so elegantly, batshit insane. Any other GM would be brushing up his Linked In. I honestly feel sorry for all of these guys. Shemar Stewart didn't choose to have his career sidetracked and possibly destroyed by this bullshit. Trey deserves a raise - and if you believe him - one he was promised. Joe Burrow is going to play his tail off for a team that is always a dollar short. Whitworth didn't deserve to be treated like that. Losing Jesse Bates is now a three year long clusterfuck that saved us 0 cap space. But we're still top 10 in cap space next year. And we will be until Joe Burrow is 38 years old and being compared to Dan Marino. Rinse, lather, repeat. Because you know what the definition of batshit insanity is? Watching this franchise do the same stupid thing year after year and expecting it to change.