ccartman2 Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Okay, I've been supportive all year. Our year is over. So it is time for him to fucking go, the pathetic peace of shit. try a screen pass once in your fucking life. Try a fucking slant dipshit. Go to fucking hell, or at least Seattle. Go, you and Dan are wrong, he is pathetic peace of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 The Jets played exactly how we should have played... run the ball, field position, KEEP IT SIMPLE. The Jets beat us with the most simple offensive game plan imaginable. They can run,so they run it... they hit slants because they're easy throws. We can run the ball... so we have five step drops every 4 plays??????? I don't understand it. Palmer is the not the same QB he use to be. Wow. Someone must be held accountable. If Marvin does not make the change, something is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccartman2 Posted January 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Oh yeah....How about giving your biggest offensive playmaker the fucking ball. Run the fucking ball, like you said you wanted to. Dumb fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who_Dey0985 Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='ccartman2' date='09 January 2010 - 07:36 PM' timestamp='1263083802' post='854745'] Okay, I've been supportive all year. Our year is over. So it is time for him to fucking go, the pathetic peace of shit. try a screen pass once in your fucking life. Try a fucking slant dipshit. Go to fucking hell, or at least Seattle. Go, you and Dan are wrong, he is pathetic peace of shit. [/quote] The most predictable offense to ever step on the field. Said it all season. Anybody is better than him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memomes Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Palmer, all the receivers and Graham out too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValleyBengal Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Agreed. Accountability is key here. Something has to change there. In most companies, if a department underperforms, managerial changes are made. We need to make changes how the offense is managed. And that cleary is on Brat's shoulders. With that said, we also need to have personnel upgrades at WR, TE and blockers for pass blocking situations. It's clear now that Chad can be shut down, and we have no one to counteract that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubdub Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 My problem w/ Brat is the penalties. That is a direct reflection of the discipline of the offense. Maybe you can lump some of it on CP too and honestly he isn't playing like a $100 Million Dollar QB either. Coaching is about getting the most out of what your given...I don't think that the offensive staff gets the most out of what we do have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I bet this fucker gets a contract extension after this year. Organization is sad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whodeyman Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='Who_Dey0985' date='09 January 2010 - 07:42 PM' timestamp='1263084122' post='854774'] The most predictable offense to ever step on the field. Said it all season. Anybody is better than him [/quote] We should have fired Brat as soon as he said the TE position didn't need to have a great player play. A good TE would have been a major weapon against the Jets. Look how well Keller did this game. I beg for a change here. The offense is handcuffed, please Mike wake up and fire Brat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValleyBengal Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 One more thing, like it was said before, what about screens and quick slants to counteract the blitz? Isn't that football ABC? Brian Leonard was suspicously absent on third downs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccartman2 Posted January 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='ValleyBengal' date='09 January 2010 - 07:47 PM' timestamp='1263084441' post='854791'] Agreed. Accountability is key here. Something has to change there. In most companies, if a department underperforms, managerial changes are made. We need to make changes how the offense is managed. And that cleary is on Brat's shoulders. With that said, we also need to have personnel upgrades at WR, TE and blockers for pass blocking situations. It's clear now that Chad can be shut down, and we have no one to counteract that. [/quote] Now I am just preparing you, but this is the defense that will show up about 1000 pm tonight. : LOLZ, Brat is going no where. No protection all year long. Having to go heavy to run the ball. Well tonight, Benson was dominate, but we threw on 1st down and 2nd short all night. Well we couldn't pass protect. Well tonight, Palmer couldn't hit the broad side of a fucking barn. Well the players didn't execute; he didn't call for the fumble or the INT, or the penalties or miss kick. NEWSFLASH: He is fucking responsible for the play calling, he put the players in position for poor execution. I put this one on him, Palmer, Graham and Marvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 [url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton"][b][color="#0a0501"]JohnThornton[/color][/b][/url] [url=""] [/url] Time to bring back Hue Jackson. He will do for offense what Mike Zimmer did for defense. Not Brats fault, but Hue will change things [url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton/status/7574961050"]12 minutes ago [/url]from [url="http://twidroid.com/"]twidroid[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTBengalsFan Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Yeah, I'd laid off my Brat hate because I thought he'd pulled it out in crucial times during the season, but that tailed off at the end of the season and today's game was pathetic. He did nothing creative to get Chad open, half the time he was just running straight down the field. How about bringing him in motion and having him go across the field. Stop just having him try to run straight past Revis, I could have told you that wouldn't happen before the game started. He isn't going anywhere though. I would bet anything on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|OneHeartBeat| Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I'm not for firing Brat. These guys didn't execute. With that guys blitzing, there should have been someone open across the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='ccartman2' date='09 January 2010 - 07:36 PM' timestamp='1263083802' post='854745'] Okay, I've been supportive all year. Our year is over. So it is time for him to fucking go, the pathetic peace of shit. try a screen pass once in your fucking life. Try a fucking slant dipshit. Go to fucking hell, or at least Seattle. Go, you and Dan are wrong, he is pathetic peace of shit. [/quote] Why is this on Brat? Carson couldn't hit the WRs when they got open, the WRs couldn't get open most of the time, and they dropped half the balls they should have caught. This was clearly on the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColorChanginClique Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 And Carson, Ocho, Marvin, etc....list goes on an on of the failures. But with this organization they'll probably get extensions and bonuses. Mediocrity is celebrated by the Brown family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValleyBengal Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Well, people can bitch all they want about execution, but poor execution is almost always the fault of poor management. If poor execution is a problem, you address it as the manager/coordinator. If it repeats (which it has over and over the latter part of the season), it's managements who has to stand up for it, especially in an environment that is restrictive to firing (cutting) player personnel. That means changes need to be made at the higher level(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommando Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='Jason' date='09 January 2010 - 07:53 PM' timestamp='1263084786' post='854819'] Why is this on Brat? Carson couldn't hit the WRs when they got open, the WRs couldn't get open most of the time, and they dropped half the balls they should have caught. This was clearly on the players. [/quote] If thats the case then they need to fire Shepard and Zampese, at a minimum. No one on offense, save for Benson, has improved in the last 2 years. Simpson hasnt seen the field in 2 years when this team obviously really, REALLY needed him...or SOMEONE. Why these guys still employed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='Jason' date='09 January 2010 - 07:53 PM' timestamp='1263084786' post='854819'] Why is this on Brat? Carson couldn't hit the WRs when they got open, the WRs couldn't get open most of the time, and they dropped half the balls they should have caught. This was clearly on the players. [/quote] I think people are basing it on the lack of creativity. Come on, Carson was off today probably due to nerves just like brett favre suffered from for a good portion of his playoff games. But instead of recognizing that and calling plays to help him (screens to scott, slats, maybe a bootleg) he continued to put him in awkward situations. The players have proven that they have the ability to play in the past, now it is up to the coaches to keep these players at that level or to help them when they are down. Just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scales Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Why is this on Brat? Cause he's the Boss of the Offense. Cause he calls the plays. Cause he has no FUCKING FEEL. Game still in hand it's early. Your down a bit and need some juice; the offense is backed up in your own endzone. You call a run. Cedric gets a few. You call another run Cedric gets a few. It's third and two . . . you are still backed way the fuck up in your own endzone and you really need to move the chains here. I know lets test the manhood of the one of the best run defenses in the league. The opposing defense knows your as predictable as a fucking clock and so does everyone else, but damnit we are running the ball this year so Lets dial up another run. Cedric gets stuffed off of left tackle for a two yard loss. You of course choose to punt. Jets get the ball back on short field, around the fitey. Play or two not much. Then Shone Green Busts one off in that tuckus for a score, and the Jets start to believe in all the crap Rex been talking. This is just one of the many examples where Bob either screws the pooch or Carson changes the play to a stinker. One instance after another coalese into a character. Carson got out played and out passioned by his ball boy. Marvin and his coaches got out coached by a first year staff. At least Cedric showed up to play today. Jets showed imagination and execution and passion. This comes from leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='GoCommando' date='09 January 2010 - 08:00 PM' timestamp='1263085248' post='854849'] If thats the case then they need to fire Shepard and Zampese, at a minimum. No one on offense, save for Benson, has improved in the last 2 years. Simpson hasnt seen the field in 2 years when this team obviously really, REALLY needed him...or SOMEONE. Why these guys still employed? [/quote] completely agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 [url="http://twitter.com/WillAnderson79"][b][color="#0a0501"]WillAnderson79[/color][/b][/url] [url=""] [/url] This is my last Tweet on Football tonight! Bengals Fans Go outside Staduim With Hue Jackson Signs for OC! He is QB coach for RAVENS! [url="http://twitter.com/WillAnderson79/status/7575609707"]4 minutes ago [/url]from [url="http://twitter.com/devices"]txt[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/WillAnderson79"][b][color="#0a0501"]WillAnderson79[/color][/b][/url] [url=""] [/url] Marvin wanted to hire him last year but Marvin found out at last minute that he couldn't fire any coaches on offense! Hue was WR coach i ... [url="http://twitter.com/WillAnderson79/status/7575651043"]3 minutes ago [/url]from [url="http://twitter.com/devices"]txt[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/WillAnderson79"][b][color="#0a0501"]WillAnderson79[/color][/b][/url] [url=""] [/url] Hue Was WR coach for Bengals in 05! As A lineman I hate to say but this league is about QB's and protecting them! [url="http://twitter.com/WillAnderson79/status/7575690642"] [/url][url="http://twitter.com/WillAnderson79/status/7575690642"][/url][url="http://twitter.com/WillAnderson79/status/7575690642"]2 minutes ago [/url]from [url="http://twitter.com/devices"]txt[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubdub Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='Jason' date='09 January 2010 - 07:53 PM' timestamp='1263084786' post='854819'] Why is this on Brat? Carson couldn't hit the WRs when they got open, the WRs couldn't get open most of the time, and they dropped half the balls they should have caught. This was clearly on the players. [/quote] Why are Leslie Frazier and Breshan (sp?) held to a different standard because they are D coordinators? We fired Frazier for improving our D with no talent. Brat has not done anything to make something out of nothing like these guys did and they got fired. Our second round pick can't get actvive for 2 years? No talent development and no success = fire the whole offensive staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 [url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton"][b][color="#0a0501"]JohnThornton[/color][/b][/url] @[url="http://twitter.com/WillAnderson79"][color="#0a0501"]WillAnderson79[/color][/url] damn willie LOL. [url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton/status/7575829028"]3 minutes ago [/url]from [url="http://twidroid.com/"]twidroid[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/WillAnderson79/status/7575651043"]in reply to WillAnderson79[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/WillAnderson79"][b][color="#0a0501"]WillAnderson79[/color][/b][/url] @[url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton"][color="#0a0501"]JohnThornton[/color][/url] Just saying the truth dog! They need Hue Jack! You know that too! He's our boy yeah but damn good coach! [url="http://twitter.com/WillAnderson79/status/7575900837"]less than 10 seconds ago [/url]from [url="http://twitter.com/devices"]txt[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/WillAnderson79"][b][color="#0a0501"]WillAnderson79[/color][/b][/url] [url=""] [/url] @[url="http://twitter.com/JohnThornton"][color="#0a0501"]JohnThornton[/color][/url] It just piss me off that I played with Carson Palmer and we couldn't put a dynamic team around him man [url="http://twitter.com/WillAnderson79/status/7575930993"]less than 20 seconds ago [/url]from [url="http://twitter.com/devices"]txt[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccartman2 Posted January 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='Jason' date='09 January 2010 - 07:53 PM' timestamp='1263084786' post='854819'] Why is this on Brat? Carson couldn't hit the WRs when they got open, the WRs couldn't get open most of the time, and they dropped half the balls they should have caught. This was clearly on the players. [/quote] Put them in a position to succeed. We were suppose to be a running team remember. Why all the 1st down passing? Why passing on 2nd and short? because it worked so well last week? We were winning for a good portion of the season, but that had more to do with the D and Palmer in the no Huddle. We need a better offensive coordinator, and have all year. With the way Ced was running the ball, we should have ran and ran and ran. When we threw, we should have thrown slants and screens. Scott didn't touch the ball all night, but they were so scared of him, they gave us the rock at the 35 to 40 yard line every time the kicked off. Come on man; sure there were execution problems. But there have been all year. When there has been all year, that points to talent or scheme. With 3 pro bowlers and Benson, my money is on coaching. Read what the experts say. Both THorton and Willie are saying the same damn thing, but Go, you and Dan are the ones right? Get real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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