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[quote name='Elflocko' timestamp='1288744849' post='936907']
US Senators serve terms of 6 years.

[color="#FF0000"]Maybe we should require people to take a government test before they vote...[/color]
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You know....

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE[/media]
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Oh man some of the discussion boards Im on are on fire tonight!

This from a mensa friend of mine.


[quote]"In effect, U.S. assets became stretched by trying to accommodate the world’s excess demand for assets. Therein lies the structural problem. This chronic excess demand for assets derives from financial underdevelopment in emerging markets and most commodity producing
economies, rather than from macroeconomic imbalances. Excess asset demand leaves an unmistakable signature in low real interest rates, which in turn provide a fertile ground for bubbles to emerge."

So, your people killed us trying to supply this demand for "assets."
GOP may take the House, but they don't have solutions to the problems. And the FED meets to do QE2, deciding whether to debase the currency by 500 billion or 1 Trillion.

This is pure socialism. You just voted in the biggest pure socialists that ever existed. All they had to do was say they aren't socialists--and you believe them like a bunch of trusting 5 year olds.[/quote]
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Some more from him..

[quote]So, financial underdevelopment in extractive, commodity producing markets finally bit us on the ass. And that is what has poor people in purposefully underdeveloped nations around the world starving out.

This isn't exactly new. Colonialism shifted over to puppet government hegemony. As with the arrogance of the Russians towards the peasants, it mutated into something ugly. The mortgage crisis has been a stop gap bridgework to evade the upset coming from this bad foreign policy. This offers at least some rationale as to WHY they started blowing the serialized bubbles, leaping from one economic sector to the next.

When these serialized bubbles pop agriculture, we'll be standing in food lines like the Russians, at the end of the Soviet Period. Pensions are all about to get wiped. Maybe you worked your whole life for one of those....waive bye-bye.

And you fearless leaders have no inclination to save you from something like that. People who can't pay their bill are just "too sorry to work." That's pretty much the philosophy they are selling. All the "issues" that are actually before you are designed to paint you into a corner, so when it comes your time to get fucked real good and hard, you won't have a leg to stand upon. As with Stalin, they have targeted their own supporters from day one.

They are going to piss away the money that could be used as a last defense against such a thing....probably tomorrow, with this QE2.

I know, everyone thinks things are hunky dory, because the DOW has risen above 11k. The one thing the media has been very careful to do is never equate the rise in the DOW to Dollar devaluations. Absent any evidence of actual improvements made by companies to justify their stock price rising, I submit that there is a much more direct correlation to stock prices rising to reflect the decline of the dollar. And I am nasty right on that point.

So, most folks are living in a carefully cultivated snare that is just about ready to yank their heads off their shoulders---and they are spitting in the eye of everyone who tells them they are in a trap.

At some point, we stop feeling sorry for them. I have reached that point.[/quote]
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[quote name='CTBengalsFan' timestamp='1288767021' post='936941']
fwiw, that sounds exactly like something Alex Jones would say
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I'm pretty sure he doesn't listen to Jones he spends his time reading white papers.

[quote name='BengalBacker' timestamp='1288762394' post='936940']
here
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Socialist. :)

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[quote name='CTBengalsFan' timestamp='1288783213' post='936944']
I wasn't saying he got it from Alex Jones, just laughing to myself because point-by-point it's stuff Alex Jones has said and continues to say.
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I dont know about Jones, but I wouldnt dismiss this stuff. My friend tends to know what he is talking about.
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[quote name='Elflocko' timestamp='1288730577' post='936794']
You do realize we're all still fucked regardless of who gets put into office, right? :mellow:
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ding, ding, ding...

The same shit will happen again in 2 years and it'll be rinse, repeat...

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Jamie, you've talked a lot about government spending and its effects on the AD, and the importance of spending the money in the right ways.

I know you've dicussed it breifly but would you care to elaborate a little on what some "correct" spending would as well as how the spending you have had issues with is "inocorrect"?

or perhaps point me in a direction of an article(s) that talk abou tthis in greater detail

i dont know shit about econmics but this is kind of interesting to me
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[quote name='mullichicken25' timestamp='1288792651' post='936976']
Jamie, you've talked a lot about government spending and its effects on the AD, and the importance of spending the money in the right ways.

I know you've dicussed it breifly but would you care to elaborate a little on what some "correct" spending would as well as how the spending you have had issues with is "inocorrect"?

or perhaps point me in a direction of an article(s) that talk abou tthis in greater detail

i dont know shit about econmics but this is kind of interesting to me
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sure but give me a day or so, i have a project for school due on thursday and if im gonna do this i want to do it right
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[quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1288745042' post='936908']
You know....

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE[/media]
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That my friend, is the problem. We are falling farther and farther behind the rest of the Industrial World because we are a country of "know nothings".
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[quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1288741212' post='936869']
The thing is I agree with you that the reform does little, but we dont have actually reforms coming from the other side, all we get from them is "No". Hell even as they get voted in they are saying they wont work with the president, that there is no compromise. How is that good for anyone?




These arent conservatives though, they are [b]libertarian anarchists[/b]
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First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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I found this humorous:

[quote]Dear Democrats: You managed to lose the House in historic proportions to a party whose strategy was to harness the inchoate anger of old white people so stupid that they don’t sense the inherent contradiction of screaming about a smaller government whilst cashing their federal checks. You are morons. Please find someone who can play this game and put them in charge of your electoral strategy, because what you’re doing now isn’t working. Also, henceforth, every time you whine about Fox News and shadowy financiers of the Tea Party, we get to beat you with a hammer. This is the political landscape now. Deal with it.

* Ironically, the Democrats might have lost the Senate too, if not for Sarah Palin, who used her appallingly not-inconsiderable political weight to back the vaguely-insane candidates Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell in races that might otherwise have easily gone GOP with more mainstream, non-insane candidates. At this writing, the Democrats have 51 seats in the Senate, but they could have had 49, and it’s fair to say that it’s not so much that the Democrats held the Senate — the Democrats didn’t hold a damn thing last night — than Palin lost it for the GOP. This naturally suits me just fine. Dear GOP: Please keep using Sarah Palin for everything.[/quote]

Excerpt from longer piece [url="http://whatever.scalzi.com/2010/11/03/election-thoughts-2010/"]here[/url]
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[quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1288741605' post='936875']
how on earth did it get pushed through? it had months on end to be discussed and debated and voted on which was a bill that was largely their ideas. They R's had no intention on voting for any health care bill, they had 12 years of power and did nothing to fix the health care problem. This was never about compromise for the people it was about political games to regain power, and sadly it worked.
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This is wrong; point blankly so. The Medicare prescription drug reform was issued under the second Bush's presidency. Lasting, stable change to healthcare can only be achieved via small, compartmental changes that will allow study of the ripple effect throughout the the entire ocean of healthcare issues before changing the next lightbulb on the string. Massive, all-at-once overhauls will never work with a divisive electorate.
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So what now?

The republicans spend the next 2 years trying to undo all of Obama's initiatives and fighting with the senate?

The big campaign promise seemed to be, "We will undo Obamacare and somehow get rid of the defecits!!!! Please forget about the fact that we bailed out wallstreet"

/I dont mind the republicans having control, ads a bit off check & balance me thinks.
//Too bad the only mandate appears to be to sabotage obama for 2010
///Isnt the Obama Health care just a ripoff of the republican health care plan from 15 years ago?
////i like slashes
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I'm not sure I'm following you; will you expand on this thought?
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IMO the endgame is the same for both Repubes and DemoRats. It's the small issues we fight over thinking we actually have a choice while both parties are "leading" us on a downward spiral. The sad part is that you have good hearted Americans thinking they actually have a choice in the 2 party system.
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[quote name='IKOTA' timestamp='1288814446' post='937070']
IMO the endgame is the same for both Repubes and DemoRats. It's the small issues we fight over thinking we actually have a choice while both parties are "leading" us on a downward spiral. The sad part is that you have good hearted Americans thinking they actually have a choice in the 2 party system.
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This...


I will say. Part of me thinks this Repub surge this midterm cycle is almost a designed thing by Dems so in another 2 years when the main man's chair is up for election the blame game can go both ways. Then us American's will be "fed up" with the repubs that we elected to Washington to fix this problem and Obama has an easier time of re-election. Not that that matters in the end.
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[quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1288789702' post='936960']
I dont know about Jones, but I wouldnt dismiss this stuff. My friend tends to know what he is talking about.
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Remember I'm the "conspiracy theorist" who likes Jones, so I agree with what he says.

The real judgment day was indeed today... because of QE2
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