BengalRep85-9 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Probably about another 10,000 will purge off the season ticket list after this. Don't blame them at all. This team sells out 1 game next year and it will basically be a road game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farbeyonddriven Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I've been an apologist and supporter of both both Marvin and Dalton, but now I say don't let the fucking door hit you on the way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Agreed. Marvin is not the man to take this team where they want to go. Some guys excel at team building, some at winning. Marvin built the team fairly well, but he cant coach em to where they need to go. As much as I hate Brian Kelly for the way he left UC, I would have no problem with him coming back to town as head coach of this team. He is an offensive mastermind, he demands accountability out of all his players, ESPECIALLY the QB. Tate woulda been cut. Rey woulda been yanked. These players dont need a friend anymore, that stage is over. Now I think they need a kick in the ass. Couldn't have said it better myself. Fucking good post man!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Harley| Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 What is really hard for people to believe is that the tone - confidence, toughness and attitude starts at the top and trickles downhill. Until soP and Marvin go, I don't see the belief that they can win the big games changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcat Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Yeah both sides of the line shit the bed. Dalton was fine until he tried to make something happen. He is not that type of Qb. Marvin and jay can go. tired of this shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actium Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 It's hilarious. At first I couldn't tell if the posts were this year or last year. Like clockwork. We are in a time loop every January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDingleDangle Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Fixed if for you. Thanks, at least i dont have to start this thread again. I have to admit, I fell into the trap the again by mid season believing he had fixed his problems, but guess not. I will not fall for it again next year...if we make it back to the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I'm so fucking tired of Marvin Lewis. You can't defend this fucking guy anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Right now, if I had to choose between keeping Marvin or Zimmer, I don't think it would be a very tough choice. I'm not sure Zimmer is going to land a HC job elsewhere, but I would not oppose making him our HC if it looked imminent that he was going to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeds Orange Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 It's hilarious. At first I couldn't tell if the posts were this year or last year. Like clockwork. We are in a time loop every January It's feels like the movie Groundhog Day, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Holy Shit. And this is the truth. I read Houston on the first page and thought it was a typo. It wasn't until I was on the fourth page that I realized this was LAST YEAR's THREAD. Fuck me. Everything holds. I'd just add Jay Gruden to the "need someone else" pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Bengal Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 It's hilarious. At first I couldn't tell if the posts were this year or last year. Like clockwork. We are in a time loop every January Maybe that's because we play like dogshit in the playoffs every January... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Holy Shit. And this is the truth. I read Houston on the first page and thought it was a typo. It wasn't until I was on the fourth page that I realized this was LAST YEAR's THREAD. Fuck me. Everything holds. I'd just add Jay Gruden to the "need someone else" pile. I most certainly wouldn't let go of Gruden, but he's gotta stop being conservative and more consistent from play to play. (and no that's not excusing Dalton's play.) It reminds me of what Simms said 2 weeks ago. They do so much on offense, that sometimes they lose their rhythm if one thing isn't working that day. Kind of a jack of all trades, but master of nothing offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 There has to be something the team could do to change the mentality. They expect to lose. They are losers. Shit starts going wrong and it's just a here we go again mentality. That won't change if we bring back our QB, Head Coach or if we replace Marvin with Zimmer, no matter how much we respect him and think he will be a good coach. Shit needs changed. If you have to trade for Chase Daniel or some other QB and just trade Dalton to do it so be it. It sounds risky but you can't go into 2014 with the same pieces in place. The argument is going to be Atkins was gone and so was Hall. Thier return will help but it won't be enough. Something major has to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboi Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Oh, I agree and we all know that. Still, I think even Mike Brown realizes that Marvin is not the answer on the field. And he sees the empty seats, too, even if they are already paid for by season ticket holders who do not show up. Eventually they are going to quit paying, too... like very possibly me. But Marvin has so well entrenched himself with the team via popularity and the community that he would be darned hard to simply fire and cut off completely from the organization. Even I do not want to see that happen to him (being fired). I also do not agree with the Mike for GM crowd. He (or is it Zim and Gruden?) has done well recently with the draft, Burficit, etc. but I still see Chris Perry, Keith Rivers, etc. et al and I still blame him for the failure of Carson Palmer as in not building a team around him. Deja vu all over again right now with Andy who does not have anywhere near the tools of Carson. I still think it takes a creative, aggressive football mind to build a team around a quarterback and Marv failed miserably with Carson. Whatever... create a position where he deals with the team (a super Eric Ball / Father Flanigan) and schmoozes the public but he is simply and obviously not getting it done on the field. At least like a top tier head coach. I think as the year goes on, fan and tax payers are going to rise hell about paying taxes for a stadium for a team that dose not produces a championship.as of right Cincinnati tax payer are set to pay more for updates and improvement to the stadium.In the next few years as the economy gets worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalRep85-9 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 At this point I can no longer realistically expect this team to win any game that has any significance whatsoever. I will expect them to choke and be pleasantly surprised if they don't. Being a fan of this franchise has completely beaten me down to that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Harley| Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Jay Gruden is nothing special - certainly not offensive mastermind. I'd give the HC job to Zimmer but it will never happen. soP and ML are buds and unless Marvin gets the GM job there's no room for Zimmer. (ML will not be GM). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I most certainly wouldn't let go of Gruden, but he's gotta stop being conservative and more consistent from play to play. (and no that's not excusing Dalton's play.) It reminds me of what Simms said 2 weeks ago. They do so much on offense, that sometimes they lose their rhythm if one thing isn't working that day. Kind of a jack of all trades, but master of nothing offense. I've seen enough continuity with particular problems in the play-calling over the last three years that I personally don't need to see more. The lack of situational awareness and urgency, in particular, is unforgivable IMO. The offense needs a fire lit under it, and Gruden isn't the guy. Maybe Marvin is making decisions that I'm not seeing, but I don't think so. If it were me I'd be clearing out Gruden and Marvin and taking the next step. Worth the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 It's feels like the movie Groundhog Day, doesn't it? Yes and guess what! That film was set Pissburgh so we are definitely cursed!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 0 second half points. Against a bottom 4 defense in the league. If any of you think Jay Gruden needs to stick around you are crazy. We had almost 5 YPC going into the 3rd quarter before the game got away from us. Just makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I've seen enough continuity with particular problems in the play-calling over the last three years that I personally don't need to see more. The lack of situational awareness and urgency, in particular, is unforgivable IMO. The offense needs a fire lit under it, and Gruden isn't the guy. Maybe Marvin is making decisions that I'm not seeing, but I don't think so. If it were me I'd be clearing out Gruden and Marvin and taking the next step. Worth the risk. well it's also his first 3 years of calling plays. I have no doubt that Gruden is going to continue to become an even better OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDawgBengal Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I will always be grateful for what Marvin Lewis did for this organization and will never hate him. He brought us out of misery and gave us hope but it's time to move on. Teams under him just fail to show in big games and in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randle P McMurphy Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 AGREE 100% Who made that call? Paul Alexadner, Jay Gruden or Marvin Lewis? Whoever made that call should have their ass FIRED!! Paul Alexander has been coaching the OL for what? 20 years now!? If ANYONE on this staff gets "Shit canned". His ass better be the first one!! Hard for ANY QB, (not just Dalton), to do anything when you're running for your life every time you drop back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I will always be grateful for what Marvin Lewis did for this organization and will never hate him. He brought us out of misery and gave us hope but it's time to move on. Teams under him just fail to show in big games and in the playoffs. This. Seriously. But they need to get rid of him before I start fucking dislike him. He's a great guy. Amazing in the community. But seriously, as a head coach...no. Just no. How about him and Zimmer just swap fucking positions. Paul Alexander has been coaching the OL for what? 20 years now!? If ANYONE on this staff gets "Shit canned". His ass better be the first one!! Hard for ANY QB, (not just Dalton), to do anything when you're running for your life every time you drop back!! There is absolutley NO EXCUSE for that loser to not be fired, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Harley| Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 The shelf life for a HC is a max 8-10 years before the words become hollow. ML is past expiration. Time for a new leader. It just is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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