Can't say negro

[|Bunghole|]

It's a beautiful exposition on Kenneth's preconceived notions of all white people, since his anecdotal experiences growing up as a black man include all of us Chez Whiteys.

[Khatmandude]

It's a beautiful exposition on Kenneth's preconceived notions of all white people, since his anecdotal experiences growing up as a black man include all of us Chez Whiteys.

 

:lmao:

[JBandJoeyV]

This thread is embarassing on several different levels.

[Jason]

Sadly, it is the human condition that racism does exist, and will until the Second Coming.  There will always be someone who will hate you because of the color of your skin, the sound of your voice, or who you choose to sleep with.  That doesn't mean you have to do the same.  I am not a racist, sexist, or "homophobe" despite the preconceptions of my political leanings.  I don't make judgements of people until I know them, or they do something to inspire those judgements. 

[|kennethmw|]

It's a beautiful exposition on Kenneth's preconceived notions of all white people, since his anecdotal experiences growing up as a black man include all of us Chez Whiteys.

 

See, that's the difference, I don't think all white people are at their heart, racist, I do, however, believe that ALL people are prejudicial.  We all prejudge people that are not like us, based on appearance, clothing, transportation and yes, SKIN COLOR.  I don't expect most of you to understand, because you've never really been faced with it.  You've never walked a mile in my shoes, but I've been required to walk in yours, as a condition of being a successful person in America that doesn't have some physical talent that allows me to avoid it.  I have actually been able to use it to my advantage in my life, whereas, there are white people today, that fear anything that might cause "AMERIKA" to be different.  That's why we have people so afraid of Sharia Law and socialism and all of these "illegal Immigrants" speaking Spanish and taking over our country. 

[Khatmandude]

 

See, that's the difference, I don't think all white people are at their heart, racist, I do, however, believe that ALL people are prejudicial.  We all prejudge people that are not like us, based on appearance, clothing, transportation and yes, SKIN COLOR.  I don't expect most of you to understand, because you've never really been faced with it.  You've never walked a mile in my shoes, but I've been required to walk in yours, as a condition of being a successful person in America that doesn't have some physical talent that allows me to avoid it.  I have actually been able to use it to my advantage in my life, whereas, there are white people today, that fear anything that might cause "AMERIKA" to be different.  That's why we have people so afraid of Sharia Law and socialism and all of these "illegal Immigrants" speaking Spanish and taking over our country. 

 

Most people refuse to be honest with themselves much less others......good post. 

[Tigris]

 

See, that's the difference, I don't think all white people are at their heart, racist, I do, however, believe that ALL people are prejudicial.  We all prejudge people that are not like us, based on appearance, clothing, transportation and yes, SKIN COLOR.  I don't expect most of you to understand, because you've never really been faced with it.  You've never walked a mile in my shoes, but I've been required to walk in yours, as a condition of being a successful person in America that doesn't have some physical talent that allows me to avoid it.  I have actually been able to use it to my advantage in my life, whereas, there are white people today, that fear anything that might cause "AMERIKA" to be different.  That's why we have people so afraid of Sharia Law and socialism and all of these "illegal Immigrants" speaking Spanish and taking over our country. 

 

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

 

Do you think it has gotten better the older you get? Not your actual thoughts about it, but the overall situation in America? In my experience, I'm 28, and I have NEVER heard of a peer getting turned down for something or anything for that matter because he was white or black (referencing your class/teacher experience you had and posted about). You know what's good? The black kids I grew up with were actually some of the more popular kids in school. My niece just graduated this year and an Indian (Indian as in middle eastern) kid in her class is actually one of the most liked and popular. There's also minority scholarships and business grants out there not available to me but to African Americans, Indians, Mexicans, women. Yeah, I know there will always be hate crimes because haters hate, but do you see it getting better than what you had it? I would think so, but then again I didn't grow up with a black kid getting turned away from something or at least it never was known publicly.

 

I was really getting after it with the parenthesis so I broke this up into something entirely different, but is African American a legit term? Let's think about it... yeah, black ancestors are of Africa, we get it, but what about mine? Should I be, if identifying in the same sense, a(n) European American? Most of our grandfathers were born in this country... aren't we all just Americans now? I don't care for the term African American because it's not used in a universal sense. When describing a guy to someone who is of color, I just say, "It's the black dude, played end, etc." Same would go for the "white guy who's playing tackle".

 

By the way, coolest thing ever... I'm legit 1/8th Cherokee Indian. My great grandmother was right off the reservation. Her name was Goldie. I never met her but after I found out and I wrote a letter to the Washington Redskins telling them how upset I am about their derogatory team name.

 

Also while doing the family tree, my great, great, great grandfather supposedly married and conceived with a woman and had my great, great grandma... The great, great, great grandma was black. That makes me 1/32nd black, wouldn't it? Check this though... there's pictures and everything; I saw them. However, the only one I've ever seen in person is my soon to be dead great grandmother (who would be 1/4th black). She could actually pass in her younger years for it but now she's paled out and doesn't really have any black features besides her curly hair. Her daughter, my grandma, who would be 1/8th black... WHITE as can be, is actually a prejudice woman (or so I am told, I've never seen it myself). Her daughter, my mom, totally white, and then me. If true, which I'm sure I could find out if I really wanted to dig, it's kind of cool to see how you can almost wipe out an entire race in your family tree (external features) if you keep breeding with one race. I really want to see my great grandmother's mom (who would be 1/2) but no pictures were available the day I went over to my brother's and checked out all the research they did.

 

Long post, sorry... one thing just lead to another, and well, we know how that goes.

[|kennethmw|]

 

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

 

Do you think it has gotten better the older you get? Not your actual thoughts about it, but the overall situation in America? In my experience, I'm 28, and I have NEVER heard of a peer getting turned down for something or anything for that matter because he was white or black (referencing your class/teacher experience you had and posted about). You know what's good? The black kids I grew up with were actually some of the more popular kids in school. My niece just graduated this year and an Indian (Indian as in middle eastern) kid in her class is actually one of the most liked and popular. There's also minority scholarships and business grants out there not available to me but to African Americans, Indians, Mexicans, women. Yeah, I know there will always be hate crimes because haters hate, but do you see it getting better than what you had it? I would think so, but then again I didn't grow up with a black kid getting turned away from something or at least it never was known publicly.

 

I was really getting after it with the parenthesis so I broke this up into something entirely different, but is African American a legit term? Let's think about it... yeah, black ancestors are of Africa, we get it, but what about mine? Should I be, if identifying in the same sense, a(n) European American? Most of our grandfathers were born in this country... aren't we all just Americans now? I don't care for the term African American because it's not used in a universal sense. When describing a guy to someone who is of color, I just say, "It's the black dude, played end, etc." Same would go for the "white guy who's playing tackle".

 

By the way, coolest thing ever... I'm legit 1/8th Cherokee Indian. My great grandmother was right off the reservation. Her name was Goldie. I never met her but after I found out and I wrote a letter to the Washington Redskins telling them how upset I am about their derogatory team name.

 

Also while doing the family tree, my great, great, great grandfather supposedly married and conceived with a woman and had my great, great grandma... The great, great, great grandma was black. That makes me 1/32nd black, wouldn't it? Check this though... there's pictures and everything; I saw them. However, the only one I've ever seen in person is my soon to be dead great grandmother (who would be 1/4th black). She could actually pass in her younger years for it but now she's paled out and doesn't really have any black features besides her curly hair. Her daughter, my grandma, who would be 1/8th black... WHITE as can be, is actually a prejudice woman (or so I am told, I've never seen it myself). Her daughter, my mom, totally white, and then me. If true, which I'm sure I could find out if I really wanted to dig, it's kind of cool to see how you can almost wipe out an entire race in your family tree (external features) if you keep breeding with one race. I really want to see my great grandmother's mom (who would be 1/2) but no pictures were available the day I went over to my brother's and checked out all the research they did.

 

Long post, sorry... one thing just lead to another, and well, we know how that goes.

 

To answer your 1st question, I am 49 approaching 50 rapidly.  Do I think things have gotten better?  YES, YES, HELL YES!  What I don't want is for you young people to forget, and I don't like the people that try to muddy the waters.  I do dislike a ton of the political correctness, because it seems it leads to us not talking to each other, but talking past each other.  We have to understand our history in order to make a better present and future.  I am aware we will never eradicate racism(or sexism, classism) but we have to continue trying, it's what we as Americans do. 

 

As far as your family, I wish more people would do that.  Due to my research, I realize that I am a product of many tribes, as I call it, so I am American first, because that is what allowed it to happen. 

[Tigris]

 

See, that's the difference, I don't think all white people are at their heart, racist, I do, however, believe that ALL people are prejudicial.  We all prejudge people that are not like us, based on appearance, clothing, transportation and yes, SKIN COLOR.  I don't expect most of you to understand, because you've never really been faced with it.  You've never walked a mile in my shoes, but I've been required to walk in yours, as a condition of being a successful person in America that doesn't have some physical talent that allows me to avoid it.  I have actually been able to use it to my advantage in my life, whereas, there are white people today, that fear anything that might cause "AMERIKA" to be different.  That's why we have people so afraid of Sharia Law and socialism and all of these "illegal Immigrants" speaking Spanish and taking over our country. 

 

I agree with Amir; good post.

 

Here's a perfect example of what you said in the other thread that was definitely not true but it does happen a lot.

 

My brother and I went to meet with a friend the other day and showed him some football stuff (alumni ball game coming up and he's NEVER played). Anyway, we're just chatting afterwards about the game and we go over the roster and we come to a guy's name on our team. Now, I don't like the guy either, but it has nothing to do with color and everything to do with his self-centeredness and ego, but my friend, who's 32-33 decides to say, "I don't like that *N*." I can't see the guy going over to his parent's house and spouting off a word like that in public, but amongst us friends who he felt comfortable with, he did. But on the contrary and while, yes, I've used derogatory terms against every race and I feel bad I did it, I just want you to know that while I would definitely feel more comfortable walking past a group of white guys on the west side of Dayton than a bunch of black guys, I haven't used a bad term like that since before I met my wife, which was about 5.5 years ago, not even in the comfort of my own home amongst racial slurring friends. Not every person is hating a different race. I know you know that... I'm just saying.

 

WSU class

[Tigris]

Adding after seeing my note up there, I had a class, my first one ever at Wright State... Sociology. The very first assignment outside of reading was to write a paper discussing what we, as a white or a black, think of the other race, white or black. Some wrote things like they dress better, they're more athletic, they're smarter, they're funnier... then there was they're loud, they're stuck up, etc. etc. etc. He read some of the lines out loud and had the class vote to guess what race wrote it. We didn't get half of them right.

 

And because of my inability to follow simple directions, I wrote what I thought blacks think of whites. I sure wish I still had my old laptop so I could reflect.

[|Bunghole|]

 

See, that's the difference, I don't think all white people are at their heart, racist, I do, however, believe that ALL people are prejudicial.  We all prejudge people that are not like us, based on appearance, clothing, transportation and yes, SKIN COLOR.  I don't expect most of you to understand, because you've never really been faced with it.  You've never walked a mile in my shoes, but I've been required to walk in yours, as a condition of being a successful person in America that doesn't have some physical talent that allows me to avoid it.  I have actually been able to use it to my advantage in my life, whereas, there are white people today, that fear anything that might cause "AMERIKA" to be different.  That's why we have people so afraid of Sharia Law and socialism and all of these "illegal Immigrants" speaking Spanish and taking over our country. 

I agree about people being prejudicial, but that takes many forms. For instance, I am not attracted to unnatractive women, or most Asian women, or most African American women. Or all gay men. Being honest about your preferences in life isn't racist, even if some of your preferences are at least in part based on skin color. It doesn't mean I cannot be very good friends with any of the aforementioned people. I just don't want to have sex with them and I am sure most of them feel the same about me.

 

And with that, I give you my favorite reverse-racist diatribe in the form of a lovely lullaby by none other than Pimp Daddy Ice Cube:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3sHT0cXnJw

 

 

I actually really love this song. Cube is the only motherfucker that can rhyme "at least I know she'd be coming from the Nubian....not the KKK you be in..."

 

Plus it has a catchy beat!

 

:lol:

[Khatmandude]

Hahaha.....Bunghole listening to Ice Cube would be a welcomed sight. 

 

If I'm honest with myself, I'm a little prejudice myself and have preconceived notions about other races/those different from me.  That doesn't effect my interaction with them and I'll act justly but those notions are there nonetheless.  IMO. 

[Tigris]

Hahaha.....Bunghole listening to Ice Cube would be a welcomed sight. 
 
If I'm honest with myself, I'm a little prejudice myself and have preconceived notions about other races/those different from me.  That doesn't effect my interaction with them and I'll act justly but those notions are there nonetheless.  IMO. 

What's your notions and against who?

Don't worry... this is the nest. You can say whatever you want here.

[Khatmandude]

I think all white people smell like hot dogs when they get wet from rain, otherwise you all smell your dog.  And don't let them on your land, they might kill you and your family and claim it as their own as if it had belonged to them the whole time. 

 

Black people are athletic, run and jump like the wind, don't cross the damn street fast enough, have large penii and have been shit on historically to the point where I don't blame those kids walking super slow in the middle of the street.  They exercise the little power they do have in such an instance. 

 

Asian people are all smart and they most likely built themselves from old computer parts and they have some of the weirdest sexual fetishes I've ever heard (mostly Japanese on this one), the girls have the softest, smoothest skin and the tightest ........

 

I have some on Pakistanis too.   The ones that have moved here after their adulthood (age 18+) or so, they smell like curry because they don't take care of themselves like they should.   And they damn well cook curry in their house, I assure you.  They love them some curry.  

 

Pls specify other races and I will give you my preconceived notions about them. 

[Rumble In the Jungle]

yall niggaz iz crazy!

[T-Dub]

I think all white people smell like hot dogs when they get wet from rain,

 

:lmao:

[Rumble In the Jungle]

Indian people smell like Curry always!

[Khatmandude]

Indian people smell like Curry always!

 

Cuz they eat it for every meal of the day.  I bet their sweat is orange if you really look at it. 

 

Oh, and Indian people shake their head when they talk....WTF is up with that?  Have you lost control of yourself?  It scares the shit out of me.

[Rumble In the Jungle]

 

Cuz they eat it for every meal of the day.  I bet their sweat is orange if you really look at it. 

 

Oh, and Indian people shake their head when they talk....WTF is up with that?  Have you lost control of yourself?  It scares the shit out of me.

 

 

Oh I know about the head shaking. namasteh, I need chapati lol

[Jamie_B]

:lol:

[Rumble In the Jungle]

Damn guys, checkout this article!!! it'll blow you away.

 

http://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?/topic/67679-help-sizing-a-picture-for-credit-card/#entry1247868

[Khatmandude]

Damn guys, checkout this article!!! it'll blow you away.

 

http://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?/topic/67679-help-sizing-a-picture-for-credit-card/#entry1247868

 

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[|Numbers|]

 

If true, which I'm sure I could find out if I really wanted to dig...

 

To find out the truth sometimes requires nothing more than a DNA analysis from your direct line.  DNA specialists will work with you to find what needs to be found.  For instance, researching the family tree on a last name (usually males are the one to pass on a last name) requires a male from your family submit a DNA sample.  There are quite a few databases available that may match up with your line and through that you will be able to make an enormous amount of connections.  The problem is that you will not have a name to connect to that tree but there is a proven connection through DNA.  Note:  Through the databases maintained it might be possible to find out the various races that existed in your lineage but DNA analysis CAN'T determine by itself which races exists in your body.

 

Chasing my "roots" through the Americas and the rest of the world has made me cringe at times when connection is made to some not so pretty events and/or people.  IF you are prepared to research your family tree and it sounds as if you are and already have a good start, be prepared to find some nasty stuff along the way.

 

At the heart of the DNA idea is that we all share a common ancestor from Africa.

 

http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/humanmigration.shtml

 

 

DNA studies indicate that all modern humans share a common female ancestor who lived in Africa about 140,000 years ago, and all men share a common male ancestor who lived in Africa about 60,000 years ago. These were not the only humans who lived in these eras, and the human genome still contains many genetic traits of their contemporaries. Humanity's most recent common ancestors are identifiable because their lineages have survived by chance in the special pieces of DNA that are passed down the gender lines nearly unaltered from one generation to the next. These ancestors are part of a growing body of fossil and DNA evidence indicating that modern humans arose in sub-Saharan Africa and began migrating, starting about 65,000 years ago, to populate first southern Asia, China, Java, and later Europe. Each of us living today has DNA that contains the story of our ancient ancestors' journeys.

 

DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. There also is no genetic basis for divisions of human ethnicity. People who have lived in the same geographic region for many generations may have some alleles in common, but no allele will be found in all members of one population and in no members of any other. Indeed, it has been proven that there is more genetic variation within races than exists between them.

 

[|Bunghole|]

Numbers taking this shit too seriously: LOL.

 

Yeah, my genetics say I am adopted by Catholic Dago Wops when I really have to fight the urge for the pubs daily while I bitch about potatoes and England, meanwhile I have an insane urge to welsh on my bets, especially on golf.