fluhartz Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I'm not afraid to admit that even the hint of that is giving me deep vein thrombosis...of the penis. It would sure explain a lot. How you stay glued onto guys with out speed. It also validates his 4.37 "verified" time a lot more. Same.. i hope he is even better than advertised...... Get to the NFL and dominate even more than in college....It happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Dennard will wear #21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sois Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Nope. Only "A historic" is acceptable. "An historic" makes you look like a chump. Hell yeah, "an historic" is JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBacker Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 We now have Tez and Quez on defense. Somehow I'm pretty sure that translates to Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 We now have Tez and Quez on defense. Somehow I'm pretty sure that translates to Super Bowl. Don't forget Tas too. He may not be full speed at the beginning of the season while the ACL heals but by year's end, he'll be wreaking havoc again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 The draft phone call. Good stuff ! http://www.bengals.com/media-lounge/videos/Draft-Call-Dennard/4a00c702-6fde-417c-9a55-ffae1cb31d27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Trying to figure out how Dennard fell so far. Seems like it was a combination of small critiques adding up to a bigger fall. - Possibly injured, rumor is sports hernia - Short arms - Average 40 yard dash - Uses hands too much, will be flag magnet under NFL rules - Deep CB class with extra time to scrutinize prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Trying to figure out how Dennard fell so far. Seems like it was a combination of small critiques adding up to a bigger fall. - Possibly injured, rumor is sports hernia - Short arms - Average 40 yard dash - Uses hands too much, will be flag magnet under NFL rules - Deep CB class with extra time to scrutinize prospects I think General Managers like to OVERTHINK the obvious, as they trust their "magical" scouting powers over the consensus from the entire year before. In all 3 of my draft guides Dennard is listed as the #1 CB and in 2 of them he was projected to go with the #10 and #11 pick ... in the 3rd he went #24 to the Bengals. But GM's and evaluators like to think that they can spot "hidden" talent, or attributes that everyone else missed, this also helps justify their existence or salaries (if it was as easy as using as basic draft guide, or going off of season awards etc then why pay them?). Dennard was the best CB in the nation last year and was awarded as such (Jim Thorpe Award winner). Gilbert jumped up based on 40 time, not being a better CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I think General Managers like to OVERTHINK the obvious, as they trust their "magical" scouting powers over the consensus from the entire year before. In all 3 of my draft guides Dennard is listed as the #1 CB and in 2 of them he was projected to go with the #10 and #11 pick ... in the 3rd he went #24 to the Bengals. But GM's and evaluators like to think that they can spot "hidden" talent, or attributes that everyone else missed, this also helps justify their existence or salaries (if it was as easy as using as basic draft guide, or going off of season awards etc then why pay them?). Dennard was the best CB in the nation last year and was awarded as such (Jim Thorpe Award winner). Gilbert jumped up based on 40 time, not being a better CB. I like the fact that his own coaches said such over-the-moon things about him. You don't here "best ever" thrown around too much. That and "he never ran a 40 above 4.40 while he was here at MSU" is another good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Coaches comments on DQ are awesome. Just keep in mind there's no downside in getting on Cincinnati air waves and OVER promoting your newly drafted CB in recruiting area you are trying to compete in with Ohio State, Tuberville Cincinnati, Petrino Louisville and Stoops with Kentucky now getting traction more than they ever have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sois Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Tuberville is garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khatmandude Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Tuberville is garbage He's the one that's employed, not Mike Leach. That would make Mike Leach lesser than garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sois Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 2013 Mike Leach was 6-7, led Wazzu to their first bowl game in 10 years. Flubs took a good Cincy team and made them worse. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khatmandude Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 2013 Mike Leach was 6-7, led Wazzu to their first bowl game in 10 years. Flubs took a good Cincy team and made them worse. haha Wow, Leach got a job. Good for him. I kinda like him.....but don't you go talking about UC players or coaches. If you do, I will, as some dbag on this site says, verbally castrate you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 2013 Mike Leach was 6-7, led Wazzu to their first bowl game in 10 years. Flubs took a good Cincy team and made them worse. haha So, a 6-7 Leach is better than a 9-4 Tubberville? Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sois Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 So, a 6-7 Leach is better than a 9-4 Tubberville? Ok. Yeah, Leach improved what he found, Flubs regressed two straight programs. Great Job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Wow, Leach got a job. Good for him. I kinda like him.....but don't you go talking about UC players or coaches. If you do, I will, as some dbag on this site says, verbally castrate you. I thought about Sois during bowl season. Leach team made a bowl and were up big. Not sure of specifics but like 21 points up with 5 minutes left in the game. The other team had no timeouts and Leach was still calling passing plays every down. Long story short. They incompletions stopped the clock. The other team tied it then won it in overtime. I've never seen anything like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khatmandude Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 I thought about Sois during bowl season. Leach team made a bowl and were up big. Not sure of specifics but like 21 points up with 5 minutes left in the game. The other team had no timeouts and Leach was still calling passing plays every down. Long story short. They incompletions stopped the clock. The other team tied it then won it in overtime. I've never seen anything like it. Hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Dennard has his new jersey ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Yeah, Leach improved what he found, Flubs regressed two straight programs. Great Job! Losing his starting QB to injury didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sois Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 I thought about Sois during bowl season. Leach team made a bowl and were up big. Not sure of specifics but like 21 points up with 5 minutes left in the game. The other team had no timeouts and Leach was still calling passing plays every down. Long story short. They incompletions stopped the clock. The other team tied it then won it in overtime. I've never seen anything like it. That was awesome. Live by the air raid, die by the air raid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwiii Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 From Reddit, if you hadn't seen this yet. Dennard set the ALL-TIME FBS record for yards per pass attempt at 0.82. Second best all time is Deion Sanders at 0.94. He had an Adjusted Burn Rate of just 28.21%. Adjusted burn rate uses SIP % which is burn rate minus screens and pass-interference penalties, and then adjusts for how often a player was thrown at, at different depths. Burn Rate is simply total number of completions divided by the total number of targets. For reference - in 2011, Darelle Revis had a burn rate of 33%. In his coverage area, just 17 of 111 (15.8%) of passes were completed for only 91 total yards, or 5.35 yards per reception allowed. That is the best of the BCS-era. 43 touchdown saving tackles in his career. So yes - he can tackle. Allowed 33 first downs in his career, but made 98 stops on third and fourth down. Just three touchdowns allowed in his coverage area in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 From Reddit, if you hadn't seen this yet. Dennard set the ALL-TIME FBS record for yards per pass attempt at 0.82. Second best all time is Deion Sanders at 0.94. He had an Adjusted Burn Rate of just 28.21%. Adjusted burn rate uses SIP % which is burn rate minus screens and pass-interference penalties, and then adjusts for how often a player was thrown at, at different depths. Burn Rate is simply total number of completions divided by the total number of targets. For reference - in 2011, Darelle Revis had a burn rate of 33%. In his coverage area, just 17 of 111 (15.8%) of passes were completed for only 91 total yards, or 5.35 yards per reception allowed. That is the best of the BCS-era. 43 touchdown saving tackles in his career. So yes - he can tackle. Allowed 33 first downs in his career, but made 98 stops on third and fourth down. Just three touchdowns allowed in his coverage area in his career. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 On paper Dennard is the best CB since Prime Time ... and now he has his #. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 All 5 of the Bengals CB's are first rounders ... (there isn't another NFL team with so many high choices) Newman - pick 5 Jones - pick 6 Kirkpatrick - pick 17 Hall - pick 18 Dennard - pick 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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