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oldschooler Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 39 minutes ago, oldschooler said: 3) Dwayne Haskins, Ohio State Composite projection: Round 1 Teams were impressed in interviews with Haskins' football IQ, especially for a one-year starter. He has been trained well by Ohio State coach Ryan Day and has plenty of arm to make all the throws. "He's a guy that got better every single week," a QBs coach said. "I think his future's bright if he could sit (as a rookie). He's just kind of a big pocket passer. When he climbs in the pocket and takes one hitch and delivers a strike, it's like, OK, that's what it's supposed to look like. You see a little bit of Ben Roethlisberger, Byron Leftwich where you maybe would like to see a little bit more body quickness, but it's there. He's got all the ability." One offensive coordinator called Haskins the best passer in the draft, but quickly echoed the biggest concern scouts and coaches have: "He cannot move." It's not about running, which Haskins did sparingly for the Buckeyes, but his ability to slide around well enough in and out of the pocket to survive against NFL defenses. "Haskins has a quick arm, but he's got slow feet," another coach said. "He moves a little bit, but when you're like that, everything with your mind and your arm has to be perfect. You don't have the margin for error." A source familiar with body-composition testing at the combine said the results on Haskins (6-3 3/8, 231) were the worst among the QBs. "Even Daniel Jonesis more mobile (than Haskins)," an NFC scouting director said. "He's a little more of a pocket passer with a wide stride to him, and he gets flat-footed." That didn't stop Haskins from completing 70 percent of his passes last season for 4,831 yards and 50 touchdown passes (both school records and NCAA bests for 2018). Against statistically the three best defenses he faced -- Michigan State, Michigan and Washington in the Rose Bowl -- Haskins threw 10 TDs with no interceptions, and the Buckeyes won all three games on the way to a 13-1 finish. As one executive pointed out before the combine, Haskins' tape shows a lot of pre-snap decisions, which he often could get away with in the more wide-open college game because his arm is so good. Reviews are mixed on Haskins' personality -- some see a good, quiet confidence, while others say they'd like a little more juice. Two other OCs said they consider Haskins a risky bet because of his small body of work, which means less film showing how he functions under duress. "There's some questions about leadership and whether he can really carry the team, or if he was asked to carry the team there," an AFC scout said. "You're talking about one year of film. If he's surrounded by lesser talent, how good is he without some of those guys catching the balls and making some big-time runs? But he's still making the big-time NFL throws you want to see. He's got a big arm and has the instincts and smarts to do it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Fan Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 4 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: This is a very interesting article on draft information: https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/04/23/nfl-draft-information-trade-media-adam-schefter-ian-rapoport-rick-gosselin But It makes me think the Bengals dont engage much in this due to (a) scouting staff size and (b) Mikey probably does not care for operating in this manner. Long read but now I know why Gruden sent his scouts home, LOL. Wonder if anybody makes cash for info, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oldschooler Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 11. CINCINNATI BENGALS: LB DEVIN WHITE, LSU One of the best fits in the draft, White patrols the middle with incredible athleticism that translated to a 91.6 coverage grade last season. He’s not great in the run game, but coverage is far more important and even more so for a Bengals defense that has assets on the outside but was torched over the middle of the field last year. 42. CINCINNATI BENGALS: EDGE MONTEZ SWEAT, MISSISSIPPI STATE 72. CINCINNATI BENGALS: OT YODNY CAJUSTE, WEST VIRGINIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 8 hours ago, oldschooler said: 11. CINCINNATI BENGALS: LB DEVIN WHITE, LSU One of the best fits in the draft, White patrols the middle with incredible athleticism that translated to a 91.6 coverage grade last season. He’s not great in the run game, but coverage is far more important and even more so for a Bengals defense that has assets on the outside but was torched over the middle of the field last year. 42. CINCINNATI BENGALS: EDGE MONTEZ SWEAT, MISSISSIPPI STATE 72. CINCINNATI BENGALS: OT YODNY CAJUSTE, WEST VIRGINIA Yes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodey365 Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 In case it was missed, Lap picked Andre Dillard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 10 hours ago, oldschooler said: 11. CINCINNATI BENGALS: LB DEVIN WHITE, LSU One of the best fits in the draft, White patrols the middle with incredible athleticism that translated to a 91.6 coverage grade last season. He’s not great in the run game, but coverage is far more important and even more so for a Bengals defense that has assets on the outside but was torched over the middle of the field last year. 42. CINCINNATI BENGALS: EDGE MONTEZ SWEAT, MISSISSIPPI STATE 72. CINCINNATI BENGALS: OT YODNY CAJUSTE, WEST VIRGINIA No way Sweat makes it to #42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, PatternMaster said: No way Sweat makes it to #42 Not a chance. The docs said he has a heart condition but it is minor and he was cleared for the combine. It is pretty much a non issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, PatternMaster said: No way Sweat makes it to #42 Or Devin White to #11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 Sweat has been completely taken off of some teams boards and Devin Bush has surpassed Devin White in the eyes of some evaluators.......you simply can never say never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 3 hours ago, whodey365 said: In case it was missed, Lap picked Andre Dillard. He said Dillard IF Jonah Williams was off of the board .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, spicoli said: He said Dillard IF Jonah Williams was off of the board .. I think he also expects both Devins to be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 53 minutes ago, spicoli said: Sweat has been completely taken off of some teams boards and Devin Bush has surpassed Devin White in the eyes of some evaluators.......you simply can never say never. I can see one of the Devins making it to 11 for sure. I don't see Sweat getting to round 2 regardless if some teams took him off their boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 hours ago, SF2 said: I can see one of the Devins making it to 11 for sure. I don't see Sweat getting to round 2 regardless if some teams took him off their boards. That's what everyone thought about Maurice Hurst at this time last year as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, spicoli said: That's what everyone thought about Maurice Hurst at this time last year as well.. Yeah and most of the teams that passed on him and picked a D tackle regret that move. His issue isn't the same regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 This should help for following he draft in general. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14m1fkLKzZxhzgoSus6RuVkrIYqHz21wbLhoZ4T_WCi8/edit?usp=sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 On 4/23/2019 at 12:09 PM, Hooky said: They haven't talked to me either. Well, your vertical is 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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