Spotto 19 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 https://www.espn.com.au/nfl/story/_/id/28498442/what-patriots-filming-punishment-means-franchise-nfl-legacies Swept under the rug, the news story broke 18 minutes after the Cam Newton announcement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 321 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 Patriots win with the Cam signing at laugh at the fine and loss of 3rd round pick. I wished we pushed the envelope to win Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|westside bengal| 673 Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Fuck the Patriots..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|SF2| 4,041 Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Newton hasn’t been healthy or good for years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cricket 856 Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 The Patriots are now on super, double secret probation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sparky151 487 Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Losing a 3rd round pick is significant. They got caught vs us but didn't need to cheat to beat us so we weren't cheated out of anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dub 7,503 Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 3 hours ago, sparky151 said: Losing a 3rd round pick is significant. They got caught vs us but didn't need to cheat to beat us so we weren't cheated out of anything. No offense but I hate that excuse. They obviously felt like they needed to cheat or they wouldn't have done it. They didn't win anything. They cheated. The outcome is meaningless when someone cheats. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UncleEarl 543 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 10 hours ago, sparky151 said: Losing a 3rd round pick is significant. They got caught vs us but didn't need to cheat to beat us so we weren't cheated out of anything. Do you think this is the only time the Patriots have done this? This is just when they got caught. They filmed the Jets. They deflated balls. They filmed the Bengals. They are doing this shit all the time. This time the guy doing the filming was a moron to get caught. With their history it should have been a first round pick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|High School Harry| 2,906 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 On 7/1/2020 at 5:02 AM, Cricket said: The Patriots are now on super, double secret probation. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sparky151 487 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 20 hours ago, T-Dub said: No offense but I hate that excuse. They obviously felt like they needed to cheat or they wouldn't have done it. They didn't win anything. They cheated. The outcome is meaningless when someone cheats. No, their media operation filmed the Bengals sideline. The coaching staff didn't have access to the video. No advantage gained by the Patsies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cricket 856 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 3 hours ago, sparky151 said: No, their media operation filmed the Bengals sideline. The coaching staff didn't have access to the video. No advantage gained by the Patsies. ...according to the Cheatriots. Not sure that I believe them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dub 7,503 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 1 hour ago, Cricket said: ...according to the Cheatriots. Not sure that I believe them. Why would you? Caught cheating several times before, which means they're probably always cheating. Then they do this thing that they know is strictly against the rules but not because it gave them an advantage? Guess they were just bored? They didn't watch the tapes like Goodell didn't watch the tapes of Ray Rice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jupiter Fan 92 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 We should get the pick. The cash is nothing to Kraft, he's spent way more than that defending his Happy Endings down here in Jupiter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UncleEarl 543 Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 22 hours ago, sparky151 said: No, their media operation filmed the Bengals sideline. The coaching staff didn't have access to the video. No advantage gained by the Patsies. Of course the coaching staff didn’t see the video....they were caught in the act of filming it! Do you really think the times they didn’t get caught it wasn’t passed along? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cricket 856 Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 3 hours ago, UncleEarl said: Of course the coaching staff didn’t see the video....they were caught in the act of filming it! Do you really think the times they didn’t get caught it wasn’t passed along? The coaching staff never has to see the film. Why should they waste their time with that? Someone else can easily watch the film and make some determinations on what certain sideline signs/gestures mean...and then just report their findings. That way the coaching staff can say honestly say that they never see the film. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dub 7,503 Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 7 hours ago, Cricket said: The coaching staff never has to see the film. Why should they waste their time with that? Someone else can easily watch the film and make some determinations on what certain sideline signs/gestures mean...and then just report their findings. That way the coaching staff can say honestly say that they never see the film. Tasking a subordinate to cheat for you is still cheating. The details or semantics of it don't matter to anyone but apologists. (Not meaning you, rather Goodell/ESPN/Pats fans.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cricket 856 Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 19 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Tasking a subordinate to cheat for you is still cheating. The details or semantics of it don't matter to anyone but apologists. (Not meaning you, rather Goodell/ESPN/Pats fans.) Exactly. Bilicheat can say that he and the coaching staff would never see any of the films that this crew makes...and they wouldn’t be lying...and at the same time would be feigning innocence. They got off easy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dub 7,503 Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 5 minutes ago, Cricket said: Exactly. Bilicheat can say that he and the coaching staff would never see any of the films that this crew makes...and they wouldn’t be lying...and at the same time would be feigning innocence. They got off easy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UncleEarl 543 Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 22 hours ago, Cricket said: The coaching staff never has to see the film. Why should they waste their time with that? Someone else can easily watch the film and make some determinations on what certain sideline signs/gestures mean...and then just report their findings. That way the coaching staff can say honestly say that they never see the film. Don’t buy it. No chance a control freak like Belichick allows non-football staff to analyze video that could influence his decisions. They are lying like they always do. Why would they even need plausible deniability? In general they get away with cheating all the time. I do agree that the punishment was way too light for a habitual offender. There was little outrage from other owners because it was Mike Brown. The other owners hate Brown even more than they do Kraft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dub 7,503 Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 14 minutes ago, UncleEarl said: Don’t buy it. No chance a control freak like Belichick allows non-football staff to analyze video that could influence his decisions. They are lying like they always do. Why would they even need plausible deniability? In general they get away with cheating all the time. I do agree that the punishment was way too light for a habitual offender. There was little outrage from other owners because it was Mike Brown. The other owners hate Brown even more than they do Kraft. I mean.. he basically takes money out of their pockets and then complains about how they earned it. That sanctimonious "Redeemer" bullshit is easy to hate even when you're not subsidizing his entire extended family. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
