Jason Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 Only 2 options for 3T, they are head and shoulders above the rest. QB: Joe Shiesty RB: Corey Dillon LT: Anthony Munoz LG: Andrew Whitworth C : Bob Johnson RG: Max Montoya RT: Willie Anderson TE: Rodney Holman WR: JaMarr Chase WR: Chad Johnson WR: Isaac Curtis K: Evan McPherson P: Pat MacInally DE: Coy Bacon NT: Tim Krumrie DE: Tre Hendrickson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 Considering Geno might be the 2nd best 3T of all time (after Aaron Donald) this is not even a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 I think there is even a case for Geno in the Hall of Fame as a 3T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esjbh2 Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, BlackJesus said: Considering Geno might be the 2nd best 3T of all time (after Aaron Donald) this is not even a question. 1 hour ago, BlackJesus said: I think there is even a case for Geno in the Hall of Fame as a 3T. Yeah, but can Geno play piano and write Grammy winning songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 No Dan Wilkinson, no vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 52 minutes ago, esjbh2 said: Yeah, but can Geno play piano and write Grammy winning songs? "Never draft a piano player" ~ Paul Brown no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Le Tigre said: No Dan Wilkinson, no vote. I actually thought about including him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 Wilkinson was better than he was given credit for. The expectations were just so high. One of the first champions of the underwear Olympics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gupps Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 Got to give it to Geno, but here is no way Reid was a scrub: Reid was the first-round selection (#7 pick overall) of the Cincinnati Bengals in the 1970 NFL Draft.[4] In the team's third season, it won the AFC Central Division and made the playoffs. In 1971, Reid established himself as one of the NFL's best pass rushers by recording 12 sacks, a figure he repeated in 1972. In 1971 Reid was a consensus All-AFC selection and the following year he was consensus All-Pro as well as being voted consensus All-AFC again. In 1973, he topped those marks by recording 13 sacks. He was named All-Pro by the Newspaper Enterprise Association (NEA) and was second-team All-Pro according to the Associated Press and Pro Football Writers Association. For the third consecutive season Reid was consensus All-AFC. In 1974, due primarily to injuries, he recorded only seven sacks, bringing his career total to 49. In his final season, Reid was again an All-AFC selection by Pro Football Weekly. Although sacks were an unofficial statistic, the Bengals kept track of them and Reid retired as the leading sacker in the team's short history. He made two trips to the Pro Bowl (1972 and 1973) before his retirement following the 1974 season due to knee and hand injuries and his desire to focus on a music career. In 1996, he received the NFL Alumni Career Achievement Award for his success in his post-NFL career. He was elected to the College Football Hall of Fame in 1987 and received the Walter Camp "Alumnus of the Year" award in 1987. In 1995, he received the NCAA Silver Anniversary Award. Reid was named as part of the Bengals' 40th Anniversary All-Time team in 2007. In 2017, Reid was named as part of the Bengals' 50th Anniversary All-Time Team. If not for injuries there is no telling how far he could have gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 3 hours ago, UncleEarl said: Wilkinson was better than he was given credit for. The expectations were just so high. One of the first champions of the underwear Olympics. He was such a monster at THE, that the measurables were sky high. He was so good at disrupting the interior blocking schemes of college-level lines, that he was a man amongst boys. That disruption capability was still with him as a pro. One thing he was not—and even at THE it was not emphasized—was the pass rush demon. He was a good rusher, but his strength accounted for a lot of it. Why it was so overstated in the draft build-up —and overblamed in his pro career—is yet a mystery to me. He was what he was: the overall best defensive lineman that year, for a team desperately needing the best defensive lineman in the draft. His very good NFL career shows that he was a very good pro. The #1 overall pick thing has always been hung over his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 14 hours ago, UncleEarl said: Wilkinson was better than he was given credit for. The expectations were just so high. One of the first champions of the underwear Olympics. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 15 hours ago, UncleEarl said: Wilkinson was better than he was given credit for. The expectations were just so high. One of the first champions of the underwear Olympics. Was he not though one of those guys who was, or at least perceived to be, not really dedicated to football? I seem to recall he was a 'took plays off' kind of guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Was he not though one of those guys who was, or at least perceived to be, not really dedicated to football? I seem to recall he was a 'took plays off' kind of guy I'm not sure, but he was pretty good. He wasn't best in the league good like everyone expected based upon his physical abilities. Those teams were a shitshow, so hard to nit pick individual guys in retrospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 Shockingly, Geno wins. Lol I will start the OLB poll this evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jason said: Shockingly, Geno wins. Lol I will start the OLB poll this evening No Dhani Jones no vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, High School Harry said: No Dhani Jones no vote. Is my memory faulty or didn’t he play mostly middle for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jason said: Is my memory faulty or didn’t he play mostly middle for us? Don't know. Just keeping up my end of the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOC Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, High School Harry said: Don't know. Just keeping up my end of the conversation. 2007 RLB 2008-10 MLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted July 17, 2023 Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 On 7/12/2023 at 9:44 PM, UncleEarl said: Wilkinson was better than he was given credit for. An NFL films clip on the Bengals drafting Big Daddy Big Daddy.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishBengalFan Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 Um..... Isn't a 3T a kids' clothing size? Educate me, what is a 3T? Never heard of it in a football context and I've been around since before Nixon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 A cooler name for a DT who plays outside of a guard’s right shoulder. Way back when, they were also called Gap Tackles. There is more technique to it, to be sure, so your mileage may vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 20 hours ago, AmishBengalFan said: Educate me, what is a 3T? A "3 Tech" DT, refers to where he lines up in relation to the OL. Here are the gap #s ... Explanation: A 3 Tech DT lines up on the outside shoulder of the G, so he is shooting between the G and the OT in the B gap. This is opposed to a more traditional DT who plays in the 2 right in front of the G or even in the 1, where he tries to go between the C and the G in the A gap. Then you have the massive NT's in 3-4 Defenses, that align at the 0, right in front of the C. There is a particular skill set, more suited for each technique #. For a 3T DT, you need them to be faster, so they can shoot up the field. To do this, they usually give up size in exchange for speed. They tend to be shorter as well (Geno, Aaron Donald etc) which makes squeezing through the B gap easier. This is opposed to a NT or A gap DT, where you want them to be wide and use their girth to basically just eat up space on running plays, while not really trying to get upfield and get sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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