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MichaelWeston Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 After Day 1 While I like adding veterans at every position, tight end, DT and RT are the only positions where we have to sign someone. QB Burrow 29 Browning 25 Could be targeting another veteran for the third camp arm: Logan Woodside makes some sense as a former draft pick. RB Moss 26 Brown 27 Williams 25 Evans 25 Moss made the most sense of every back available in FA and we got him at a bargain. You can go to camp with these 4 plus some UDFAs but I assume a draft pick is coming. CEH doesn't make a ton of a sense. He's never played a special teams snap in KC. WR Chase 26 Iosivas 27 Pryor WR Higgins 25 Jackson WR Jones 27 Lassiter Malik Wright said they feel ok at WR and will wait until the draft. If we want to save money we have to be willing to play cheap unknown players a bit more. I expect Irwin back but they probably want to give some snaps to Jones, Yoshi and the 3 futures guys to see if they can develop. It's not out of the question Lassiter, Pryor or Jackson make the 53 man roster. They could hedge at Slot pretty easily: Curtis Samuel, Darnell Mooney, Parris Campbell, Braxton Berrios, Jamal Agnew, Quez Watkins, Deonte Harty, Scotty Miller. Samuel and Mooney are probably going to get paid. The rest will probably be under 3.5M. I don't know what happens if they decide to trade Higgins. There aren't any starting outside WRs. Maybe Marquise Brown. I really wish Higgins would just take the Pittman deal. That seems fair. TE Sample 27 Sample is back and settles the blocking position. Hudson probably is on his way back. There are still a bunch of potential starters left: Everett, Hopkins, Thomas, Gesicki, Trautman, Hurst...all have variant levels of excitement. We need one of them Everett is 30 but settles the position the most Thomas was coached by Taylor and had 51 catches last year despite his age (33) Hopkins is the type of guy we sign, buried on the depth chart at LAR with some upside. Gesicki is really just a slot guy. Probably too close to Hudson and Hudson comes cheaper Trautman played at Dayton, still young at 27, Hurst might be done but he would come cheap. We need someone to start. This feels a bit like last year when all the chairs were full and Irv Smith was left. I get not paying a ton for TE's. And it's not working for teams, but what we are doing isn't really working either. LT Brown 27 Carman 25 LG Volson 26 Ford 25 C Karras 25 Hill 25 Gilliam RG Cappa 26 Kirkland RT Smith 25 Cochran 25 Fords back and that's good. I hope Scharping is next. Those 2 make it easier to stack the rest of the depth chart with rookies. There is a world where Kirkland becomes the backup G with upside. He played mostly tackle at Washington. Smith-Carman and Hill are all in their last years so a load of picks at the position makes sense. For now RT is the biggest need: Trent Brown, Nijman, Fant, Fleming, Becton. Wynn. There is an outside chance Jonah is back. LE Hubbard 26 Sample 25 Ossai 25 LT Tufele 25 Bell 25 RT Hill 25 Carter 26 Davis Maxwell 26 RE Hendrickson 26 Murphy 27 Gunter There are 2 gaping holes where at NT and rotational 3T. Reader could fill one if he is back. The draft could fill the other. It's not necessary to get a 3T in FA. Nose: Reader, Davis, Tart, Jenkins 3T: Jones, Roach, Rankins, Joseph Day WLB Pratt 26 Davis-Gaither 25 Heyward MLB Wilson 28 Harper 26 This could actually be it. They brought in Harper for a reason late last year. With ADG coming back you have a plug and play backup LB. Bailey and Bache would be great to get back but it's not necessary. S Battle 27 Scott 26 Anderson 26 S Stone 26 Hill 27 Safety is set in FA and might be for camp. Scott really doesn't need to be cut. He'd save you 2.3 million and the vet minimum is 1.25. Having a vet with starts in your system as a backup is probably with 1M. He's played loads of special teams. They likely keep him through camp and he battles with Anderson for a spot. CB Taylor-Britt 26 George CB Turner 27 Ivey 27 NB Hilton 25 Davis 25 With Hill likely moving to the bench it's possible he is the 4th corner. Turner flashed some but they likely want a veteran at the position. Rumors were they were seeking out Kendall Fuller. The list of corners who could fit this spot is long. That market has moved at all. CB Age Overall Run D Pass Rush Coverage Snaps Starts 23/Career stats Fuller-Commanders 29 83.1 78.1 56.2 82.8 1020 15/93 79-2fl-2fr-9pd-2int Yiadom-Saints 28 81.1 74.7 60 80.4 517 8/28 37-1fr-15pd-1int Williams-Jaguars 31 79.5 29.9 57.1 85.3 1035 17/55 53-3fl-2ff-19pd-4int Nelson-Texans 31 72.6 61.6 60 73.4 1192 16/115 63-12pd-4int White-Bills 29 68 29.9 68.7 79 182 4/82 12-1fl-1h-2pd-1int Griffin-Panthers 28 67 61.9 60 67 459 6/79 33-4pd-1int Hall-Jets 27 66.4 80.3 62.8 138 2/26 7-1FR-2pd-1int Hamilton-Cardinals 31 64.7 47.7 53.3 69.1 559 9/18 40-1ff-11pd-1int Taylor-Britt-Bengals 64.5 46.7 70.3 653 12/21 50-1fl-1ff-11pd-4int Robertson-Raiders 26 63.4 54.5 74.7 65.8 674 12/21 50-2fl-1h-1s-1ff-6pd-2int Ya-Sin-Ravens 28 63.4 55.5 64 281 1/39 13-2pd Witherspoon-Rams 29 62.8 70.2 56.2 60 1115 17/57 52-3fl-2fr-14pd-3int Jackson-Bills 27 62.7 28.8 60 69.7 578 6/28 39-1ff-5pd Howard-Dolphins 31 55.1 63.9 78.9 51.9 743 13/99 4501fl-1h-12pd-1int 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, BlackJesus said: Bengals make his list twice That's probably in order as well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 8 hours ago, IKOTA said: 😂 lol Glad they had the stones to do it. Bummed they didn’t give Joe the chance to look before FA started. Moss will fit nicely and allow them to possibly draft a day 2 guy with the extra comp pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 8 hours ago, IKOTA said: He’s an upgrade But did the bengals check in with Jaime and LeTigre? These internet posters surely know more than the Bengals so it would behoove the Bengals to clear it with them before making a signing. Appreciate the honors! 😀 Can’t speak for Jamie, but they did not consult me…sadly. I suppose I’m too old. I just remember a time when the Bengals couldn’t beg/borrow/steal a consistent 1,000-yard RB who also scored TD’s. Live through the Derrick Fenner days, and it would be understood. And, while I get the “all-pass/all the time” mode of present day offenses, it seems like—here anyway—the clock has turned backwards: in the early to mid ‘90’s they were living on backup/mid-rounds picks-quality RB’s…they are going back to the future. Ahh, who knows..maybe Zack is like Pacheco—run like hair is on fire and actually gets the seams. They hit that luck with Bienemy back when. As a consultant, that is always possible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 42 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: Appreciate the honors! 😀 Can’t speak for Jamie, but they did not consult me…sadly. I suppose I’m too old. I just remember a time when the Bengals couldn’t beg/borrow/steal a consistent 1,000-yard RB who also scored TD’s. Live through the Derrick Fenner days, and it would be understood. And, while I get the “all-pass/all the time” mode of present day offenses, it seems like—here anyway—the clock has turned backwards: in the early to mid ‘90’s they were living on backup/mid-rounds picks-quality RB’s…they are going back to the future. Ahh, who knows..maybe Zack is like Pacheco—run like hair is on fire and actually gets the seams. They hit that luck with Bienemy back when. As a consultant, that is always possible I put that POS on ignore a while ago. I hope for the teams sake it is an upgrade and I'm wrong. I don't think I am but I hope so. But there is a reason it's only a 2 year deal. Let's see how he does and if I'm not wrong you all can join me in demanding a Oline that can run block next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Griever Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Definitely a smaller sample set but more stats. Disclaimer I'm not saying this is some huge upgrade or anything. If anything we get a little cheaper, a little bit younger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Seems like the protection was a big focus 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 9 hours ago, Montana Bengal said: Titans? Duh, how did I not think of that with the King's departure and the Callahan connection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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|BlackJesus| Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 If Boyd leaves, will there be any players still on the roster before Zac's arrival? To me, that's always the point when a coach has fully remade his roster, when there's no holdovers remaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 20 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: If Boyd leaves, will there be any players still on the roster before Zac's arrival? To me, that's always the point when a coach has fully remade his roster, when there's no holdovers remaining. Hubbard? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 22 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: If Boyd leaves, will there be any players still on the roster before Zac's arrival? To me, that's always the point when a coach has fully remade his roster, when there's no holdovers remaining. Just Sam Hubbard. I wouldn't completely rule out a Tyler Boyd reunion, depending on what happens for him re: interest from other teams, and $. I like the new kids but having TB for another year wouldn't be the worst thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 29 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: If Boyd leaves, will there be any players still on the roster before Zac's arrival? To me, that's always the point when a coach has fully remade his roster, when there's no holdovers remaining. Sam Hubbard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jamie_B Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Griever said: From that chart it looks like Safety as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 A TE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 ^ I'm happy we got a TE, but why not a 2 year deal like all the others? We always sign a TE for 1 year, they do well, and then leave for a raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Griever Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, BlackJesus said: ^ I'm happy we got a TE, but why not a 2 year deal like all the others? We always sign a TE for 1 year, they do well, and then leave for a raise. Yeah I'm with you there. Unless the thought this year may be drafting the long term answer at TE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Love this. Wanted this to happen last year. guessing the one year deal is G trying to get the Burrow bump and cash in next year. He’s going to be so nasty split out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, Griever said: A TE Malik Wright is gonna be happy, this was the guy he wanted last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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