-GoBengals- Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 https://es.redskins.com/topic/454124-commanders-vs-bengals-prediction-thread-bad-ol-puddy-tat/ Link to the official redskins message board, imagine how much a pain in the ass that is to moderate as an official team board. thats the VS Bengals link thread above. this is the poll expectation, lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 I too cannot believe its not butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted September 19 Author Report Share Posted September 19 there is a LOT of Time of possession talk over there like its a viable 2024 nfl gameplan for success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 1 hour ago, GoBengals said: there is a LOT of Time of possession talk over there like its a viable 2024 nfl gameplan for success. We do have issues at DT, trying to run against us and playing that type of game isnt a bad idea for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted September 19 Author Report Share Posted September 19 4 hours ago, Jamie_B said: We do have issues at DT, trying to run against us and playing that type of game isnt a bad idea for them. sure but a strict TOP gameplan isnt much to hang your hat on.. everyone can run on us.. they shot themselves in the foot on many drives, so if they clean that up they may see the endzone more than we expect. lots of speed on that team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 Side note: Commanders is the worst name in all of professional sports. It feels stupid to even say it. At this point, returning to Redskins would be better. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 11 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: Side note: Commanders is the worst name in all of professional sports. It feels stupid to even say it. At this point, returning to Redskins would be better. That and the Cleveland Guardians for me.. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 57 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: That and the Cleveland Guardians for me.. Was going to say the same thing lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, claptonrocks said: That and the Cleveland Guardians for me.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebengal Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 2 hours ago, claptonrocks said: That and the Cleveland Guardians for me.. In our household, it’s still the Cleveland Indians. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 13 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: I understand about certain names that would imply a negative to it Redskins is a demeaning word. On the other hand why would Cleveland change their name.. We have the Cowboys in the NFL. Why not Indians in MLB? (And the name Guardians sucks). . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted September 20 Author Report Share Posted September 20 i went and told them 11 sucked, so they know as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishBengalFan Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 I just call them Washington Guardians and Cleveland Commanders to mock both teams at once, both times. Used to be the Potomac River Basin Indigenous People. Or Cleveland's Baseball Team. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 2 minutes ago, AmishBengalFan said: I just call them Washington Guardians and Cleveland Commanders to mock both teams Ironically, those actually sound better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 9 hours ago, BlackJesus said: Ironically, those actually sound better. I think they sound like names of condoms. no 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, High School Harry said: I think they sound like names of condoms. no Good one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBR Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 The Cleveland Indians changed their name because they couldn't separate the Chief Wahoo logos from the team identity as long as they were still named the Indians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeds Orange Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 16 hours ago, claptonrocks said: Redskins is a demeaning word. It seems to me like it would be, as well, but in surveys of Native Americans, over 90% said they were not offended. Also, a group called The Native American Guardians Association filed suit to have the name returned. I thought they should have kept the uniforms, logos, helmets, and all, and just called them Warriors or something, if it was the name that the do-gooders had a problem with. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 10 minutes ago, Bleeds Orange said: It seems to me like it would be, as well, but in surveys of Native Americans, over 90% said they were not offended. Also, a group called The Native American Guardians Association filed suit to have the name returned. I thought they should have kept the uniforms, logos, helmets, and all, and just called them Warriors or something, if it was the name that the do-gooders had a problem with. Always liked these. Get rid of the feathers and "Redskins" wordmark and there would be no native American imagery period, an arrow is pretty universal to all warriors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 1 minute ago, Griever said: Always liked these. Get rid of the feathers and "Redskins" wordmark and there would be no native American imagery period, an arrow is pretty universal to all warriors Problem is Washington shows no signs of being Warriors up to now. Washington Pinkies would suit them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 49 minutes ago, Bleeds Orange said: I thought they should have kept the uniforms, logos, helmets, and all, and just called them Warriors or something I liked the idea of "Hogs", since they already had that nickname anyway ... then keep color scheme and jerseys the same. You could also do Washington Warthogs if you wanted alliteration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 On 9/20/2024 at 2:50 PM, BlackJesus said: I liked the idea of "Hogs", since they already had that nickname anyway ... then keep color scheme and jerseys the same. You could also do Washington Warthogs if you wanted alliteration. Doubt they could use Hogs as its is the moniker for their inbred cheerleaders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, Bleeds Orange said: It seems to me like it would be, as well, but in surveys of Native Americans, over 90% said they were not offended. Also, a group called The Native American Guardians Association filed suit to have the name returned. I thought they should have kept the uniforms, logos, helmets, and all, and just called them Warriors or something, if it was the name that the do-gooders had a problem with. https://www.yahoo.com/news/family-blackfeet-chief-inspired-redskins-033608055.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall Family of Blackfeet chief who inspired Redskins logo wants it back (NewsNation) — Relatives of the man John Two Guns White Calf, whose profile served as the face of the Washington, D.C., professional football team for 48 years, wants his likeness returned to the franchise. Thomas White Calf, a great nephew of the late Blackfeet Nation chief, told Fox News, “The fans want him back and we want him back.” The team changed its name in 2020 following complaints over the term “Redskins,” which has historically been used as a slur against indigenous peoples in North America. “Our ancestor was the most famous and most photographed native in history,” Thomas said in the interview. “Two Guns was also the face on the Indian head nickel. I’m proud of him. The Blackfeet are proud of him.” It’s important to note that other descendants of Two Guns have not openly supported this idea, with Blackfeet Nation Councilman Everett Armstrong telling the Associated Press his family has been primarly left out of the conversation. They were not consulted in the 1970s about the use of his image and have never been asked about it since, said Armstrong, a descendant of White Calf himself. “They’d like a seat at the table,” he said in July. The original logo was designed by a member of the Blackfeet Nation in Montana in the early ’70s, causing some to take pride in not only the depiction but the man who helped design it — Walter “Blackie” Wetzel, a former Blackfeet Nation tribal chairman and former president of the National Congress of the American Indian, the country’s oldest Native American and Alaska Native advocacy organization. Thomas’ comments come after a meeting with Sen. Steve Daines, R-Mont., according to Fox. In July, Daines blocked funding for an improved stadium for the team — unless the logo is honored in some form. Thomas and Daines aren’t alone in their call. In 2023, the Native American Guardians Association created an online petition advocating for a return to the name and logo as a way to honor “the bravery, resilience, and warrior spirit associated with Native American culture.” For many others, the name is a painful reminder of racism, oppression and colonization, with the recent change coming as a small victory for modern-day representation. For clarification, a statement was issued clarifying the clarity that Joe Two Gun White Calf is clearly no relation to Joe Two Gun Mixon. The Associated Press contributed 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 23 minutes ago, High School Harry said: https://www.yahoo.com/news/family-blackfeet-chief-inspired-redskins-033608055.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall Family of Blackfeet chief who inspired Redskins logo wants it back (NewsNation) — Relatives of the man John Two Guns White Calf, whose profile served as the face of the Washington, D.C., professional football team for 48 years, wants his likeness returned to the franchise. Thomas White Calf, a great nephew of the late Blackfeet Nation chief, told Fox News, “The fans want him back and we want him back.” The team changed its name in 2020 following complaints over the term “Redskins,” which has historically been used as a slur against indigenous peoples in North America. “Our ancestor was the most famous and most photographed native in history,” Thomas said in the interview. “Two Guns was also the face on the Indian head nickel. I’m proud of him. The Blackfeet are proud of him.” It’s important to note that other descendants of Two Guns have not openly supported this idea, with Blackfeet Nation Councilman Everett Armstrong telling the Associated Press his family has been primarly left out of the conversation. They were not consulted in the 1970s about the use of his image and have never been asked about it since, said Armstrong, a descendant of White Calf himself. “They’d like a seat at the table,” he said in July. The original logo was designed by a member of the Blackfeet Nation in Montana in the early ’70s, causing some to take pride in not only the depiction but the man who helped design it — Walter “Blackie” Wetzel, a former Blackfeet Nation tribal chairman and former president of the National Congress of the American Indian, the country’s oldest Native American and Alaska Native advocacy organization. Thomas’ comments come after a meeting with Sen. Steve Daines, R-Mont., according to Fox. In July, Daines blocked funding for an improved stadium for the team — unless the logo is honored in some form. Thomas and Daines aren’t alone in their call. In 2023, the Native American Guardians Association created an online petition advocating for a return to the name and logo as a way to honor “the bravery, resilience, and warrior spirit associated with Native American culture.” For many others, the name is a painful reminder of racism, oppression and colonization, with the recent change coming as a small victory for modern-day representation. For clarification, a statement was issued clarifying the clarity that Joe Two Gun White Calf is clearly no relation to Joe Two Gun Mixon. The Associated Press contributed I still believe it's a negative term. I'll stand by that. You think others cultures would warm to that? Blackskins. Yellowskins Hundreds of team names and none use this type of slur.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 While we're on the subject I must have missed all the tomahawk chopping and chanting from Arrowhead last week. Did I just luck out or did someone finally convince them to dial back the cringe shit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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