Your mock offseasons/Wishlists 2025

[MichaelWeston]

I think this gets its own thread but I am fine either way. Here is my offense so far

 

QB-Add a veteran with some upside who we can maybe stash on the PS this year, Browning will likely be gone next year. I chose Ridder because of his ties to UC and Louisville but this is a crapshoot. Additionally, add a UDFA

RB-Kept Moss around for camp, re-signed Herbert on vet Minimum, and then added Ameer Abdullah. Abdullah has a scrimmage upside and can willingly play on teams. Add 2 UDFAs in the deepest RB draft that I can remember. Likely it's a competition between Moss and Herbert for the backup role. Abdullah is #3. Third back is a battle between Milton, Brightwell (he's still decently young) and UDFAs. Could see a DP here but probably unwise with how many backs there are in this draft and how few picks we have. 

WR-Higgins is back on a long-term deal. Noah Brown signed as the 4th WR on a vet min deal. Fehoko signed two a 2 year 5M deal with some upside. Last position roster spot battle between Jones and Williams. Could replace Fehoko with a DP

TE-Re-upp Gesicki for 5-7M per 2 years. Draft someone who can block and pass catch. Do it All. Add 2 UDFAs from a deep TE draft. 

OL-Sign Scherff at RG for what is likely a lower deal so he can finish his career here. Maybe 6-10M. Sign Evan Brown for 3 years in the 8-11M range to play LG. Sign Kendrick Lamm who played for Peters already for near league Minimum to be the swing tackle. re-sign ford for near league Min. 2 UDFAs 

Teams-Re-sign York at league min, Give Adomitis a 2 year deal. 

 

QB	Burrow 29	Browning 26	Ridder 26	UDFA					4
RB	Brown 27	Moss 26	Herbert 25	Abdullah 26	Milton 26	Brightwell	UDFA	UDFA	8
WR	Chase 26	Brown 26	Pryor	Burgess					4
WR	Higgins 25	Fehoko 27	Tinsley	UDFA					4
WR	Iosivas 27	Williams 27	Jones 27	UDFA					4
TE	Gesicki 25	Sample 27	Draft Pick	Grandy 26	McClachlan 28	UDFA	UDFA	All 28	7
LT	Brown 27	Lamm 26	Cochran 26						3
LG	Brown 28	Kirkland 25	UDFA						3
C	Karras 26	Lee 28	UDFA						3
RG	Scherff 26	Volson 26	Steuber 26	Manning					4
RT	Mims 29	Ford 25	Coker						3
K	McPherson 28	York 25							2
P	Rehkow 27								1
LS	Adomitis 25								1

[Gary]

DEFENSE, and more DEFENSE. I am so mad that we wasted the best QBs best season so far. I am afraid that Burrow will want to leave if we don't fix things, and I do not trust in the ownership to even want to spend money, even though (Thanks to the Sacramento Kings sale) professional teams have like tripled in value over the past 10 years. It all started with the bidding war for the Sac Kings. 

[sparky151]

For the offense, I want the team to re-sign Higgins, Gesicki, and Ford. We should look to add a couple of guards in free agency as the position is well stocked this year. We can afford to pay up for Jenkins and Scherff or Zeitler. A swing tackle would be useful too and maybe a cheap RB. We should be set at QB, WR, TE, C, and OT. Use a draft pick for a TB and possibly a C/G. 

 

We'll have plenty of money and draft picks to throw at the defense. It's just a matter of who we get and whether Golden can put the pieces together into a coherent defense. If we can get to 17th in stats like 3rd down conversion, redzone TD % allowed, takeaways, and yards allowed per rush or pass, then we should be a playoff team next year.

 

 

[claptonrocks]

2 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

For the offense, I want the team to re-sign Higgins, Gesicki, and Ford. We should look to add a couple of guards in free agency as the position is well stocked this year. We can afford to pay up for Jenkins and Scherff or Zeitler. A swing tackle would be useful too and maybe a cheap RB. We should be set at QB, WR, TE, C, and OT. Use a draft pick for a TB and possibly a C/G. 

 

We'll have plenty of money and draft picks to throw at the defense. It's just a matter of who we get and whether Golden can put the pieces together into a coherent defense. If we can get to 17th in stats like 3rd down conversion, redzone TD % allowed, takeaways, and yards allowed per rush or pass, then we should be a playoff team next year.

 

 

With the new cap jumping and releases they can sign Trey, Tee and Chase and with more to spend on holes as well.

 

If Katy plays this right we could have a SB contender this year.

[Le Tigre]

Good place for everyone’s wish lists 

[claptonrocks]

2 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:

Good place for everyone’s wish lists 

A Must wish list imho .

[T-Dub]

Fire Tobin, promote Trey Brown and give him the authority to shape the roster.  No "redeeming", no "smiles a lot", no "shows up for photo ops" and no "can't just go to WalMart" or saving for a rainy day excuses.  The annual cap increase alone will cover Tee's franchise tag, time to give it up with the yearly offseason Hobson Math poor-mouthing.

 

No other goal than putting together the best 53 football players they can get.  That's it, that's the job.

 

Of course this isn't going to happen but it really, really should.

[sparky151]

1 hour ago, claptonrocks said:

With the new cap jumping and releases they can sign Trey, Tee and Chase and with more to spend on holes as well.

 

If Katy plays this right we could have a SB contender this year.

 

The increase in the cap isn't very significant since it gives every team the same amount of extra spending power. It's good for players who are free agents this year but it's still a weak class. Maybe it makes the cap hit on a trade more tolerable and we see a few more trades. 

[Inigo Montoya]

I looked back at the last 5 seasons of free agent signings since Burrow was drafted.  Not a complete list but the most notable names.  Obviously there are plenty of hits and misses.  Hard to deny the trend has been going in the wrong direction.

 

 

2020

 

DJ Reader

Trae Waynes

Vonn Bell

Xavier Su’a-Filo 

Josh Bynes

Mike Daniels

 

2021

 

Trey Hendrickson 

Mike Hilton 

Chidobe Awuzie

Reilly Reiff

Larry Ogunjobi

Eli Apple

BJ Hill (via trade)

 

2022

 

Alex Cappa

Ted Karras

La’el Collins

Hayden Hurst 

2023

 

Orlando Brown

Cody Ford

Nick Scott

Irv Smith

 

2024

 

Geno Stone

Sheldon Rankins 

Mike Gesicki 

Trent Brown

Zack Moss

 

[claptonrocks]

3 hours ago, sparky151 said:

 

The increase in the cap isn't very significant since it gives every team the same amount of extra spending power. It's good for players who are free agents this year but it's still a weak class. Maybe it makes the cap hit on a trade more tolerable and we see a few more trades. 

Cap raise and  alot of if releases can secure all the prime players we have plus extra filling in the holes we have.

Sign them ..

Get to the SB

Times  a wastin.

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[T-Dub]

On 2/20/2025 at 3:56 PM, sparky151 said:

 

The increase in the cap isn't very significant since it gives every team the same amount of extra spending power. It's good for players who are free agents this year but it's still a weak class. Maybe it makes the cap hit on a trade more tolerable and we see a few more trades. 

 

It's pretty significant in removing their excuse to not retain what little game-changing talent is left on the roster.  In an ideal world Burton would look like the next man up & they could move Higgins to buy some help in the trenches, but this ain't that.  Retain the guys that make the offense go - I'll even admit Gesicki should probably be counted among them even though I hate the idea of blocking being optional for anybody other than Burrow or our kickers.

[sparky151]

The public no longer is fooled by poor mouthing from Hobson or Tobin. Everyone knows the team has the resources to keep Chase, Higgins, and Hendrickson plus add a bunch of other free agents to patch holes. 

 

There have been lots of media pieces to the effect that this is the biggest offseason in franchise history. We'll see if Duke and Katie can come through or not. 

[New Jersey Bengal]

They better 

[Jamie_B]

In FA

Resign Trey, Tee, Jamar, maybe Mike G at the right price.

 

Other team FAs 

DJ Reed

Chase Young

Dre Greenlaw

 

Two guys outside of the Bengals typical age range at G

Brandon Schef

Zach Martin

 

Leaves us a DT needing a 3rd DT but I don't care for any of the guys in FA at that position. This is largely 2nd tier guys outside out own. The Bengals can afford this.

 

Then go BPA, try to get a DE a DT and at least one G if not 2. Maybe even a S.

[T-Dub]

30 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

In FA

Resign Trey, Tee, Jamar, maybe Mike G at the right price.

 

Other team FAs 

DJ Reed

Chase Young

Dre Greenlaw

 

Two guys outside of the Bengals typical age range at G

Brandon Schef

Zach Martin

 

Leaves us a DT needing a 3rd DT but I don't care for any of the guys in FA at that position. This is largely 2nd tier guys outside out own. The Bengals can afford this.

 

Then go BPA, try to get a DE a DT and at least one G if not 2. Maybe even a S.

 

 

Just saw in the other thread that Martin is going to retire, also read elsewhere Scherff would be about a $14M dead cap hit for Jax because of a contract restructure so I assume they're going to try to extend him.

[MichaelWeston]

30 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

In FA

Resign Trey, Tee, Jamar, maybe Mike G at the right price.

 

Other team FAs 

DJ Reed

Chase Young

Dre Greenlaw

 

Two guys outside of the Bengals typical age range at G

Brandon Schef

Zach Martin

 

Leaves us a DT needing a 3rd DT but I don't care for any of the guys in FA at that position. This is largely 2nd tier guys outside out own. The Bengals can afford this.

 

Then go BPA, try to get a DE a DT and at least one G if not 2. Maybe even a S.

Martin retired. 

[MichaelWeston]

Just now, T-Dub said:

 

 

Just saw in the other thread that Martin is going to retire, also read elsewhere Scherff would be about a $14M dead cap hit for Jax because of a contract restructure so I assume they're going to try to extend him.

Scherff is a free agent, I don't understand why his dead cap matters at all. 

[T-Dub]

2 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said:

Scherff is a free agent, I don't understand why his dead cap matters at all. 

 

I don't quite get it either but apparently something with how they chose to restructure a previous extension, void years & such.. Basically mismanaging all the cap manipulation stuff we're asking the Bengals to adopt 😆  Spotrac doesn't really spell it out but they do show him as waived & at $13.8M in dead cap.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/jacksonville-jaguars/cap/_/year/2025/sort/cap_dead/dir/desc

[Jamie_B]

Then switch out Martin for Zeitler 

[T-Dub]

1 hour ago, Jamie_B said:

Then switch out Martin for Zeitler 

 

Wouldn't hate it but they need to get younger on the OL

[gupps]

6 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

Wouldn't hate it but they need to get younger on the OL

 

Yeah, they have to start hitting on draft picks for the oline more consistently. Need good players on rookie contracts so you can free up money for elsewhere.

[Jamie_B]

10 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

Wouldn't hate it but they need to get younger on the OL

 

Im only suggesting both G's get 1 year deals at the same time drafting two more so we're not forced to start rookies.

[sparky151]

14 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

In FA

Resign Trey, Tee, Jamar, maybe Mike G at the right price.

 

Other team FAs 

DJ Reed

Chase Young

Dre Greenlaw

 

Two guys outside of the Bengals typical age range at G

Brandon Schef

Zach Martin

 

Leaves us a DT needing a 3rd DT but I don't care for any of the guys in FA at that position. This is largely 2nd tier guys outside out own. The Bengals can afford this.

 

Then go BPA, try to get a DE a DT and at least one G if not 2. Maybe even a S.

 

Trey and Ja'Marr aren't free agents. The team should re-sign Tee, Gesicki, Ford, Kirkland if he's not yet re-signed, and Bachie or ADG. Let Bell, Hilton, Hill, Ossai, Evans leave.

 

We should sign a couple of veteran guards, at least 1 of them to a 2 or 3 year deal and not draft a guard this season. We don't want a rookie starting in front of Burrow and we only have 6 picks with a defense to make over. So let's sign say Teven Jenkins for 3 or 4 years, plus Scherff for a couple. I'll co-sign adding Greenlaw, he'd be a major upgrade from Pratt but he'll likely only sign a 1 year prove-it deal. That's fine. Chase Young would be ok, not sold on DJ Reed.

 

We should sign some veteran DTs. Tart, Ford, Campbell, or Lopez would be good adds. Ford and Campbell can play stronside DE on running downs if needed as neither Young nor Murphy are much in run defense. 

 

14 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

I don't quite get it either but apparently something with how they chose to restructure a previous extension, void years & such.. Basically mismanaging all the cap manipulation stuff we're asking the Bengals to adopt 😆  Spotrac doesn't really spell it out but they do show him as waived & at $13.8M in dead cap.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/jacksonville-jaguars/cap/_/year/2025/sort/cap_dead/dir/desc

 

Scherff isn't under contract anywhere yet for 2025 so he gets counted as a UFA. If he does re-sign with Jacksonville before the start of the 2025 league year on March 14, they can avoid his void years all piling into 2025. He currently has money from a prorated signing bonus allocated to 2025 and beyond. If they resign him, it will stay there. If not, it will all amortize as dead money in 2025.

 

1 hour ago, Jamie_B said:

 

Im only suggesting both G's get 1 year deals at the same time drafting two more so we're not forced to start rookies.

 

This isn't an especially good draft group for interior linemen. We should sign 2 vet starters and not put them on 1 year deals, though Zeitler could reasonably retire at the end of any season. 

[T-Dub]

1 hour ago, sparky151 said:

 

 

Scherff isn't under contract anywhere yet for 2025 so he gets counted as a UFA. If he does re-sign with Jacksonville before the start of the 2025 league year on March 14, they can avoid his void years all piling into 2025. He currently has money from a prorated signing bonus allocated to 2025 and beyond. If they resign him, it will stay there. If not, it will all amortize as dead money in 2025.

 

 

 

 

There's a cautionary tale. Thanks for explaining that in a way that makes sense.

[MichaelWeston]

7 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

Im only suggesting both G's get 1 year deals at the same time drafting two more so we're not forced to start rookies.

Most guards get FA deals.