oldschooler Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Xombie' date='09 December 2009 - 05:41 PM' timestamp='1260398514' post='839453'] Totally have to disagree. I kinda get the impression that you are not a Notre Dame fan. As it has already be mentioned, money-wise, how could you -not- pass up an opportunity like this? And, prestige-wise, a job like this only opens up maybe twice a career, and your resume has to be good enough to be in sync with the opportunity to secure such a job. [/quote] No I am not a Notre Dame fan, at all. And money is all Notre Dame can offer Kelly. If Kelly goes to Notre Dame, he will have a lot of pressure to go with that money. If he stays at UC, he is a God that can call all the shots and probably have shit named after him. He can win a National Title at UC. He isn't restrained by the academic requirements that Notre Dame has and he wouldn't have anywhere near the pressure. Again, all Notre Dame has to offer is more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='oldschooler' date='10 December 2009 - 10:02 AM' timestamp='1260453746' post='839645'] No I am not a Notre Dame fan, at all. And money is all Notre Dame can offer Kelly. If Kelly goes to Notre Dame, he will have a lot of pressure to go with that money. If he stays at UC, he is a God that can call all the shots and probably have shit named after him. He can win a National Title at UC. He isn't restrained by the academic requirements that Notre Dame has and he wouldn't have anywhere near the pressure. Again, all Notre Dame has to offer is more money. [/quote] ND has more money to offer, more notoriety, a better chance at a National Title game. If Notre Dame was undefeated this year and Texas missed that FG. There would be no question that it would be ND vs Alabama. They're going to get the nod over TCU, UC and Boise. What would make it harder for him to get a National Title Shot at ND would be the schedule and teams traditionally gunning for them. If UC had ND's schedule, they wouldn't be 12-0. Especially with that D. They're a big fish in a little pond. I'm a ND fan and UC fan. I personally would like Kelly to stay at UC and for ND to get another good coach. But if Kelly stays here, there's a good chance another big conference school will come calling next year. Most Big East coaching jobs will be stepping stones until the Big East transforms into a football conference force. It's been building for a few years, but it's not there yet to the point that their schools will be considered as equals in BCS talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol_Bengal Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Bunghole' date='10 December 2009 - 09:38 AM' timestamp='1260452304' post='839631'] Maybe Tennessee could just let Notre Dame have Lane Kiffin. I hear he's a [i]hell of a recruiter[/i], and a much, [i]much[/i] more honorable and trustworthy coach than say, a dirtbag like John Calipari. [/quote] They can have him... :noninja: Granted, everything, to date, has been secondary violations... nothing quite on par with Calipari... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Hooky' date='10 December 2009 - 10:38 AM' timestamp='1260455919' post='839667'] ND has more money to offer, more notoriety, a better chance at a National Title game. If Notre Dame was undefeated this year and Texas missed that FG. There would be no question that it would be ND vs Alabama. They're going to get the nod over TCU, UC and Boise. What would make it harder for him to get a National Title Shot at ND would be the schedule and teams traditionally gunning for them. [b]If UC had ND's schedule, they wouldn't be 12-0.[/b] Especially with that D. They're a big fish in a little pond. I'm a ND fan and UC fan. I personally would like Kelly to stay at UC and for ND to get another good coach. But if Kelly stays here, there's a good chance another big conference school will come calling next year. Most Big East coaching jobs will be stepping stones until the Big East transforms into a football conference force. It's been building for a few years, but it's not there yet to the point that their schools will be considered as equals in BCS talks. [/quote] Yeah, I can see how UC would struggle against powerhouses such as Navy, Purdue, Michigan, Washington, and Washington State. ND lost to Connecticut and Pitt, both of whom UC beat. ND played 2 teams that finished the season ranked. UC played 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Bunghole' date='10 December 2009 - 09:38 AM' timestamp='1260452304' post='839631'] Maybe Tennessee could just let Notre Dame have Lane Kiffin. I hear he's a [i]hell of a recruiter[/i], and a much, [i]much[/i] more honorable and trustworthy coach than say, a dirtbag like John Calipari. [/quote] Maybe ND should hire Kelly and Kiffin could come here to UC. That way I would have a shot with his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 If Kelly leaves, ...would you consider Charlie Weis for the UC job? (It might stop the coaching carousel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Jeb' date='10 December 2009 - 05:06 PM' timestamp='1260479182' post='839848'] If Kelly leaves, ...would you consider Charlie Weis for the UC job? (It might stop the coaching carousel) [/quote] Hell no!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Jason' date='10 December 2009 - 05:13 PM' timestamp='1260479597' post='839851'] Hell no!!! [/quote] K, ...why? The reason I ask is because all I know about Weis is what I've seen from ND and quite honestly, ...its not all his fault. So, I'm having a hard time judging his true talent, ...if any. Btw, ...I like Kerry Coombs as a candidate as well and he's a local guy (more likely to stick around). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khatmandude Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Kelly's gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 [b][size="5"]Report: Kelly to be named next Irish coach[/size][/b] Posted by John Taylor on December 10, 2009 5:08 PM ET According to a report from the [i]South Bend Tribune[/i], the Notre Dame Fighting Irish [url="http://ow.ly/KKO3"][color="#004a80"]have a new coach[/color][/url]. And his name is -- surprise!!! --[b] Brian Kelly[/b]. Citing two university sources familiar with the search process, the paper reports that Kelly will be named as [b]Charlie Weis[/b]' successor in South Bend. It's expected that Kelly will meet with his players ahead of the Bearcats' award banquet tonight to inform them of his decision. No further details, such as when the official announcement will come or when a press conference will be held, are available at this time. [url="http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/10/report-kelly-to-be-named-next-irish-coach/"]http://collegefootba...xt-irish-coach/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/default/flip.gif[/img] Douchebag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 [b]Kelly tells team he's leaving [/b]UC sources tell Seg Dennison that Brian Kelly has informed the team that he is leaving for Notre Dame. Kerry Combs will coach the Bearcats in the Sugar Bowl. Details to follow. [url="http://www.1530homer.com/pages/lancesBlog.html"]http://www.1530homer.com/pages/lancesBlog.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='oldschooler' date='10 December 2009 - 06:23 PM' timestamp='1260487431' post='839891'] Kerry Combs will coach the Bearcats in the Sugar Bowl. Details to follow. [url="http://www.1530homer.com/pages/lancesBlog.html"]http://www.1530homer.com/pages/lancesBlog.html[/url] [/quote] This is the worst part of it. Fucking the players over. Gee, I wonder if they will play as hard against Florida now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Hooky' date='10 December 2009 - 09:38 AM' timestamp='1260455919' post='839667'] ND has more money to offer, more notoriety, a better chance at a National Title game. If Notre Dame was undefeated this year and Texas missed that FG. There would be no question that it would be ND vs Alabama. They're going to get the nod over TCU, UC and Boise. [/quote] If Texas would have missed that FG, there would be no question that UC would be playing in the National Title game. Notre Dame only gets At Large Bids to the BCS. Cincy gets an Automatic Bid. Notre Dame's noteriety comes from their past, not their future. I hope Kelly falls on his face. Fuck him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengals8580 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='oldschooler' date='10 December 2009 - 07:40 PM' timestamp='1260488426' post='839898'] If Texas would have missed that FG, there would be no question that UC would be playing in the National Title game. Notre Dame only gets At Large Bids to the BCS. Cincy gets an Automatic Bid. Notre Dame's noteriety comes from their past, not their future. I hope Kelly falls on his face. Fuck him. [/quote] 10-2 at Notre Dame goes to a BCS. 11-1 at Cincy does not. He gets more money at notre dame. Winning there is bigger than winning anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='bengals8580' date='10 December 2009 - 07:01 PM' timestamp='1260489719' post='839905'] 10-2 at Notre Dame goes to a BCS. 11-1 at Cincy does not. He gets more money at notre dame. Winning there is bigger than winning anywhere. [/quote] If that 11-1 UC team won the Big East, they would AUTOMATICALLY go to the BCS. And losing there is bigger than losing anywhere. It goes both ways you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 [url="http://twitter.com/Old_schooler"][b][color="#0a0501"]Old_schooler[/color][/b][/url] @[url="http://twitter.com/CoachBrianKelly"][color="#0a0501"]CoachBrianKelly[/color][/url] You could have been a God at UC. Now you are just a douchebag. I hope you fall on your face. [url="http://twitter.com/Old_schooler/status/6548589266"]3 minutes ago [/url]from web [url="http://twitter.com/CoachBrianKelly/status/6469425064"]in reply to CoachBrianKelly[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/Old_schooler"][b][color="#0a0501"]Old_schooler[/color][/b][/url] [url=""] [/url] @[url="http://twitter.com/CoachBrianKelly"][color="#0a0501"]CoachBrianKelly[/color][/url] Biggest game in YOUR coaching history, and you walk away. You left your players and fans for a 6-6 school. I hope you fail. [url="http://twitter.com/Old_schooler/status/6548785780"]less than 5 seconds ago [/url]from web [url="http://twitter.com/CoachBrianKelly/status/6469425064"]in reply to CoachBrianKelly[/url] [url="http://twitter.com/CoachBrianKelly"]http://twitter.com/CoachBrianKelly[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Hah what a douchefuck. I hope to GOD he fails so hard at ND and Coombs succeeds. Would be good to see a local guy take over what was started here and continue the success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengals8580 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='oldschooler' date='10 December 2009 - 08:05 PM' timestamp='1260489926' post='839906'] If that 11-1 UC team won the Big East, they would AUTOMATICALLY go to the BCS. And losing there is bigger than losing anywhere. It goes both ways you know? [/quote] You dont get the point, its easier for him to go to a BCS bowl at Notre Dame. Other than loyalty, which he obviously doesnt care about. Why would he stay at UC? Notre Dame can pay him more, has a bigger stadium, easier for him to recruit, loved by the polls. You know if Notre Dame finishes in the top 10 of the BCS they basically get an AUTOMATIC bid. You make it seem like he took a step down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='bengals8580' date='10 December 2009 - 07:21 PM' timestamp='1260490917' post='839912'] You dont get the point, its easier for him to go to a BCS bowl at Notre Dame. Other than loyalty, which he obviously doesnt care about. Why would he stay at UC? Notre Dame can pay him more, has a bigger stadium, easier for him to recruit, loved by the polls. You know if Notre Dame finishes in the top 10 of the BCS they basically get an AUTOMATIC bid. You make it seem like he took a step down. [/quote] No it isn't easier for him to go to a BCS bowl. it is more pressure, and they have higher academic standards. If any team finishes in the top 10 they go to a BCS bowl. I have already stated my opinion. To me it is a step down, all except money. Kelly could have had it all at UC, minus the pressure. UC was giving him everything he wanted, and was giving him more and more money. He could have been UC's Bobbie Bowden or Joe Paterno. Instead he is more than likely just another overpaid fat fuck that will be fired in 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengals8580 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='oldschooler' date='10 December 2009 - 08:30 PM' timestamp='1260491429' post='839914'] No it isn't easier for him to go to a BCS bowl. it is more pressure, and they have higher academic standards. If any team finishes in the top 10 they go to a BCS bowl. I have already stated my opinion. To me it is a step down, all except money. Kelly could have had it all at UC, minus the pressure. UC was giving him everything he wanted, and was giving him more and more money. He could have been UC's Bobbie Bowden or Joe Paterno. Instead he is more than likely just another overpaid fat fuck that will be fired in 5 years. [/quote] Forget bcs bowls, if cincy doesnt win the big east, they get stuck in a bad bowl because the big east has poor bowl tie ins and cincys fan base isnt as large as the bigger bowls prefer. If UC wouldve lost to pitt they wouldve gone to the Meinke car care bowl, even though they are 11-1. If ND goes 11-1 or even 10-2, they go to a BCS. If they lose 4 games they still get an upper tier bowl game. The only reason for him to stay at uc was if he wanted to be a legend at that school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='bengals8580' date='10 December 2009 - 07:38 PM' timestamp='1260491912' post='839919'] Forget bcs bowls, if cincy doesnt win the big east, they get stuck in a bad bowl because the big east has poor bowl tie ins and cincys fan base isnt as large as the bigger bowls prefer. If UC wouldve lost to pitt they wouldve gone to the Meinke car care bowl, even though they are 11-1. If ND goes 11-1 or even 10-2, they go to a BCS. If they lose 4 games they still get an upper tier bowl game. The only reason for him to stay at uc was if he wanted to be a legend at that school. [/quote] If my Aunt had balls she'd be my Uncle. The only reason Notre Dame gets that shit is because of their following. And them being over rated. And if they lose 4 games their coach is on the hot seat. Also, him being a Legend would require him to keep winning and going to BCS Bowls. He could have done that at UC. Obviously you are a Notre Dame fan. I am not. Never was, never will be. And like I said, this just makes it easier to root against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Tory Go! Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 This is the fault of Nebraska's useless kickoff 'specialist.' That idiot does his job...Texas loses, UC plays for the title...There's no way Kelly leaves UC before the national title game...Notre Dame can't wait another month for a possible hire...they hire some piece of crap like Randy Edsall...I laugh. Screw that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='oldschooler' date='10 December 2009 - 07:40 PM' timestamp='1260488426' post='839898'] If Texas would have missed that FG, there would be no question that UC would be playing in the National Title game. Notre Dame only gets At Large Bids to the BCS. Cincy gets an Automatic Bid. Notre Dame's noteriety comes from their past, not their future. I hope Kelly falls on his face. Fuck him. [/quote] you're gonna shit on a guy for taking his dream job and more money to boot? Child please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='Bengals1181' date='10 December 2009 - 07:48 PM' timestamp='1260492525' post='839923'] you're gonna shit on a guy for taking his dream job and more money to boot? Child please. [/quote] No I am going to shit on the fat fucker for lying to his team, yelling at the media when they were right, walking away from the biggest game in HIS coaching history and being a complete douchebag. And instead of Child please, I'll just give you a hearty Fuck you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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