MichaelWeston Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I am really lost why people can't just agree to disagree on this one. There is an entire school of thought with evidence on one side and one on the other. Both make arguments and you have discussion. It is ok to end it there. Bringing it back up is trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1321163992' post='1060873'] I am really lost why people can't just agree to disagree on this one. There is an entire school of thought with evidence on one side and one on the other. Both make arguments and you have discussion. It is ok to end it there. Bringing it back up is trolling. [/quote] Right - our side has the evidence of every game Whit has played, the evaluations of dozens of experts and other observers from Hall of Famers on down and you have one piece of paper copied from a 2004 scouting report. At least now you are calling for a 'tie' - that's some progress. Bringing it up isn't trolling, its comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='Oldcat' timestamp='1321166133' post='1060881'] Right - our side has the evidence of every game Whit has played, the evaluations of dozens of experts and other observers from Hall of Famers on down and you have one piece of paper copied from a 2004 scouting report. At least now you are calling for a 'tie' - that's some progress. Bringing it up isn't trolling, its comedy. [/quote] Then you are not a troll. You are an internet bullie. That is far worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [b]Weston[/b]-if you cannot see the preponderance of evidence weighted against your argument on this topic, may I suggest law school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='Bunghole' timestamp='1321187054' post='1060891'] [b]Weston[/b]-if you cannot see the preponderance of evidence weighted against your argument on this topic, may I suggest law school? [/quote] Preponderance of evidence? That's absurd. The argument has always been that he is not a prototype LT because his lack of quickness. ONE report out of a million say he is and you go with that report and claim its the preponderance of evidence. You point to a handful of websites that say he is an all pro and the best LT and ignore the rest, including the one that has these absurd ol stats that you keep turning too that say that he is not. This is not a black or white situation. There are so many people on this damn board who can't see in the gray area. It's either 100% or 0%. It's ridiculous. The more enlightened have really been persuasive for me to see more of the gray. That he is doing this despite his limitations and that is all the more appealing for him. I think he can play LT well in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1321199225' post='1060964'] Preponderance of evidence? That's absurd. The argument has always been that he is not a prototype LT because his lack of quickness. ONE report out of a million say he is and you go with that report and claim its the preponderance of evidence. You point to a handful of websites that say he is an all pro and the best LT and ignore the rest, including the one that has these absurd ol stats that you keep turning too that say that he is not. This is not a black or white situation. There are so many people on this damn board who can't see in the gray area. It's either 100% or 0%. It's ridiculous. The more enlightened have really been persuasive for me to see more of the gray. That he is doing this despite his limitations and that is all the more appealing for him. I think he can play LT well in the NFL. [/quote] No, the ONE REPORT you keep mentioning is the scouting report [b]you[/b] keep throwing out there as evidence of [b]your[/b] claims that he isn't a "prototypical" or whatever tackle and that he should be a guard. What THE REST OF US have been saying (and showing you legit cites for) is that [b]people who know what the fuck they are talking about[/b] (NFL coaches, other players, etc) are [i]not[/i] agreeing with your assertion, and neither do most of the fans here on the site. And Whitworth's play has fucking spoken for itself. He has been a stellar LT in the league, despite your assertions and you using old scouting reports as evidence for your lame argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 This team just signed Whit to an extension to be their LT. He has done an awesome job at LT. Plus he adds something that is invaluable as a leader. People can go on about his lateral quickness, say there are better LTs in the NFL or whatever. The fact is, Whit is getting noticed around the league for being "one of the Best" LTs in the game. They're not going to draft his replacement anytime soon. They're not moving him to another spot on the O-line anytime soon. And they shouldn't. He is a strength on the O-line, not a weakness. He is a stud. And I for one am more than happy to not only have him on my team, but to have him play LT for my team. Period. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastmaster Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 He sure sucked today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincity Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='beastmaster' timestamp='1321226630' post='1062333'] He sure sucked today [/quote] Really?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsNYC Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='beastmaster' timestamp='1321226630' post='1062333'] He sure sucked today [/quote] Are you serious?!?! He had one holding penalty vs Harrison and another hold that was questionable at best. How many times did you hear Harrison's name called today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDawgBengal Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 [quote name='beastmaster' timestamp='1321226630' post='1062333'] He sure sucked today [/quote] All those sacks he gave up today. Oh wait that's right, he did not give up one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 He bottled Harrison today. Harrison came off three sacks last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 [quote name='BengalsNYC' timestamp='1321226804' post='1062336'] Are you serious?!?! He had one holding penalty vs Harrison and another hold that was [s]questionable at best [/s][b]fucking awful[/b]. How many times did you hear Harrison's name called today? [/quote] Fixt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 [quote name='beastmaster' timestamp='1321226630' post='1062333'] He sure sucked today [/quote] if that's your opinion of what transpired....you sure suck today. maybe you and weston should enter into the vacuum cleaner business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 They troll. They are trollers. It's what they do. Please, for those of us who have them on ignore, please stop quoting their trolling. It defeats the purpose of the ignore function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 [quote name='membengal' timestamp='1321357177' post='1062593'] They troll. They are trollers. It's what they do. Please, for those of us who have them on ignore, please stop quoting their trolling. It defeats the purpose of the ignore function. [/quote] Its hilarious that you polled up a post that was nearly 12 hours old to say this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 C'mon eleven pages of nonsense! WOOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Bengals LT Andrew Whitworth vs. Ravens LB Terrell Suggs — Whitworth has allowed only one sack this season and three over the past two years. He has allowed only one sack in 14 AFC North games since moving into the left tackle spot. Suggs has 6.5 sacks against the Bengals but only 1.5 since 2005. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/bengals/notes.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted November 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 [quote name='oldschooler' timestamp='1321535220' post='1063278'] Bengals LT Andrew Whitworth vs. Ravens LB Terrell Suggs — Whitworth has allowed only one sack this season and three over the past two years. He has allowed only one sack in 14 AFC North games since moving into the left tackle spot. Suggs has 6.5 sacks against the Bengals but only 1.5 since 2005. [url="http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/bengals/notes.htm"]http://www.usatoday....ngals/notes.htm[/url] [/quote] on that note, James Harrison has 0 sacks on Whitworth. [url="http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/sports/ravens/ravens-notebook-suggs-has-run-into-a-wall-against-whitworth/article_788de68e-12a8-11e1-9657-001cc4c002e0.html?cbst=38#.TselpO7NltM"]http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/sports/ravens/ravens-notebook-suggs-has-run-into-a-wall-against-whitworth/article_788de68e-12a8-11e1-9657-001cc4c002e0.html?cbst=38#.TselpO7NltM[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1321707848' post='1063874'] on that note, James Harrison has 0 sacks on Whitworth. [url="http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/sports/ravens/ravens-notebook-suggs-has-run-into-a-wall-against-whitworth/article_788de68e-12a8-11e1-9657-001cc4c002e0.html?cbst=38#.TselpO7NltM"]http://www.carrollco...38#.TselpO7NltM[/url] [/quote] Well, that's only because Whitworth holds Harrison on every play. Need proof? Ask any Steelers fan. According to them, Harrison gets held by every lineman that plays against him as its the only way to stop him because he's so awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USN Bengal Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 [quote name='Bunghole' timestamp='1321711913' post='1063893'] Well, that's only because Whitworth holds Harrison on every play. Need proof? Ask any Steelers fan. According to them, Harrison gets held by every lineman that plays against him as its the only way to stop him because he's so awesome. [/quote] Maybe Harrison just can't get sacks against true LG's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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