MichaelWeston Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 No he's not +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 But a can't-block-a-lick hybrid something or other who whiffs or gets blown over each time a running play is called and fails because there is no lead block...this can assist in costing a SB, no? Charles is already half decent, which is better than "no lead block". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted September 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 and ya know, if the Bengals end up needing a true FB, including Conner, 12 of them just got cut and are looking for work. And that's not even including solid vets like Lawrence Vickers who were already out there. No he's not k there chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 and ya know, if the Bengals end up needing a true FB, including Conner, 12 of them just got cut and are looking for work. And that's not even including solid vets like Lawrence Vickers who were already out there. k there chief. Quite true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted September 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Hey chief just cause you make a statement doesn't make it true of course not. My opinion means little. So does yours. The tape is pretty clear though, and the fact that they decided to cut Conner shows they're not too concerned. Let's all stop pretending the Bengals just cut Lorenzo Neal in his prime. John Conner has now been cut from an NFL team twice in the last 11 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydenM Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I wonder if they wish they had waited and not put Sean Porter on IR to get down to 75 last week. At the time it looked like they had too many LBs and putting him on IR was a way to stash him until next season. If they had known Lamur would go down, Porter could have been a candidate for the nickel LB spot. Don't know how long he was projected to be out though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Conner was a stud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 The Conner thing isn't only "a run play is upcoming" but play-action out the I, or similar. Let's face it, sometimes we need all the freaking O-line help we can get in pass protection. Charles was a mediocre TE and is a mediocre FB. Tweeners very rarely work out. But yes, neither are exactly Zo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalBengalEd Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 He isn't needed now. He's not even worth putting him up there. I'm tired of seeing his fucking name. I'm tired of him being associated with this team. He is so goddamn horrible. Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 of course not. My opinion means little. So does yours. The tape is pretty clear though, and the fact that they decided to cut Pressley shows they're not too concerned. Let's all stop pretending the Bengals just cut Lorenzo Neal in his prime. John Conner has now been cut from an NFL team twice in the last 11 months. He was cut from the Jets because of injury with medial collateral ligament and hamstring . And yes by all counts the tape was clear. Clear that Charles was not a good lead blocker and Conner was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Obviously the coaches feel differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I thought we had an understanding, Kenny. Lol the fuck man B.A.B., you are just like one of my kids! You're probably me 25 years ago! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted September 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 He was cut from the Jets because of injury with medial collateral ligament and hamstring . And yes by all counts the tape was clear. Clear that Charles was not a good lead blocker and Conner was I was talking about tape as far as Conner and Pressley. If the jets thought he was that great they would have IR'ed him or hung onto him as a gameday inactice. They weren't in a playoff hunt they could have used a spot on him. They simply let him walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Not gonna happen and you know it When it happened, who was it against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I was talking about tape as far as Conner and Pressley. If the jets thought he was that great they would have IR'ed him or hung onto him as a gameday inactice. They weren't in a playoff hunt they could have used a spot on him. They simply let him walk. Yawn. Tape shows Conner is better than Press. Next . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 When it happened, who was it against? How many times was Peko or Atkins the FB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unleashed Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Yawn. Tape shows Conner is better than Press. Next . . He looked solid in the preseason but Boom Herron also looked like he could be a top 10 back. I know it's apples to oranges due to him being new in our system last season but Conner was a drop off from Pressley. It's not easy comparing the two under the circumstances they've been in for the last year but I'd go with a 100% Pressley over a healthy Conner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Alice Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 They don't need a big LB. They are not looking for an every down backer. They just need someone who can come on the field and cover TE and RB on passing downs. A lighter quicker LB is perfect for that. Lighter is one thing. 220 is another... The Bengals play nickel 1/2 of the time. That means those backers are going to see plenty of runs. Why do you think they had Lamur put on so much weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 He looked solid in the preseason but Boom Herron also looked like he could be a top 10 back. I know it's apples to oranges due to him being new in our system last season but Conner was a drop off from Pressley. It's not easy comparing the two under the circumstances they've been in for the last year but I'd go with a 100% Pressley over a healthy Conner. Omg. Boom is a good runner and sp team player. But he is not now or ever be top 10 in the league or even top 4 on this team. IMO press has never looked better than Conner has looked this preseason Jc > Pressley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unleashed Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Omg. Boom is a good runner and sp team player. But he is not now or ever be top 10 in the league or even top 4 on this team. IMO press has never looked better than Conner has looked this preseason Jc > Pressley That's exactly why I said Boom "looks" like a top 10 back. Preseason is a different animal and can't be treated as if the same success will be carried into regular season. I don't ever remember complaining about Pressley during regular season, so why are we throwing him under the bus because of an injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDawgBengal Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Lighter is one thing. 220 is another... The Bengals play nickel 1/2 of the time. That means those backers are going to see plenty of runs. Why do you think they had Lamur put on so much weight? Considering Scott has played 11 years in the league and had some good years, I would say he could hold up just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted September 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 fwiw, the Bengals ran the ball 355 (RB's only) last year. They only used a fullback on 78 of those runs. 22% of all running plays on the season. On the season, Bengals FB logged a total of 203 snaps last year. 20.9% of all offensive plays on the season. Green-Ellis had a 4.5ypc with a lead FB. 4.1 in a lone setback. Very minimal difference, (also for the heck of it, he had a 5.3ypc out of the shotgun) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Alice Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Considering Scott has played 11 years in the league and had some good years, I would say he could hold up just fine. He hasn't played 11 years as a LINEBACKER. He was a safety until last year, when Buffalo changed him to linebacker. The transition went so well that he couldn't make it of camp with one of the worst teams in the league. Color me underwhelmed. If a big safety is what the Bengals want to play as a nickel linebacker, it seems to me they've got a couple guys already on the roster to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 He hasn't played 11 years as a LINEBACKER. He was a safety until last year, when Buffalo changed him to linebacker. The transition went so well that he couldn't make it of camp with one of the worst teams in the league. Color me underwhelmed. If a big safety is what the Bengals want to play as a nickel linebacker, it seems to me they've got a couple guys already on the roster to choose from. ......Taylor Mays being one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Harley| Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I wonder if they tried to get anything for Skekton? When it was so quiet on this front, I began to think they just might keep 3. I really like having Josh as a change of pace within a game. This different dimension used as spot appearances was the advantage over Skelton. But if Andy were to go down and miss a full game or more, Skelton seemed like he would be the more likely of the two to be able to win a game. Assuming he could get the WCO down. This just underscores that the team only goes as far as Andy can get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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