Bleeds Orange Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 How many times in the past ten years have the Bengals had more talent and outplayed their opponent overall, only to lose due to lack of discipline? I hoped and believed that eliminating the off-the-field discipline issues would eliminate them on the field, but apparently not. I know, Marvin has improved drafting and has gotten better personnel on the roster, and I give him credit for that. But what good is the talent if you're going to fumble it away with stupidity on the field and from the sidelines. I can accept a loss, but losses like today's are especially galling and hard to get over.There have been way too many days like today in the past ten years. Everything had to go just right for the Bears for them to win today's game, and the Bengals saw to it that it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 How many times in the past ten years have the Bengals had more talent and outplayed their opponent overall, only to lose due to lack of discipline? I hoped and believed that eliminating the off-the-field discipline issues would eliminate them on the field, but apparently not. I know, Marvin has improved drafting and has gotten better personnel on the roster, and I give him credit for that. But what good is the talent if you're going to fumble it away with stupidity on the field and from the sidelines. I can accept a loss, but losses like today's are especially galling and hard to get over.There have been way too many days like today in the past ten years. Everything had to go just right for the Bears for them to win today's game, and the Bengals saw to it that it did. We had three turnovers, they had none. What's the winning percentage in the league when that occurs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saphead Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Things like that are going to happen on the field of play. The constant dumbfuckery by this coaching staff is unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyInDC Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 We had three turnovers, they had none. What's the winning percentage in the league when that occurs? They had one...Burfict's pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 The fiasco right before half time was absolutely inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 people can blame Marvin all they want, but it was the 3 turnovers (and they're lucky it wasn't a 4th) by the PLAYERS that lost this game. 2 of the turnovers happened when they would have been in at least FG range, in a game they lost by 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 people can blame Marvin all they want, but it was the 3 turnovers (and they're lucky it wasn't a 4th) by the PLAYERS that lost this game. 2 of the turnovers happened when they would have been in at least FG range, in a game they lost by 3. 1181, how many times have we seem poor clock management and stupid things such as personal fouls and 12 men on the field? Yes it was the players fault but they aren't well managed and never have been in the Marvin Lewis era. Granted I do think Marvin has his fair share of strengths but a better coached team wins that game today IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 1181, how many times have we seem poor clock management and stupid things such as personal fouls and 12 men on the field? Yes it was the players fault but they aren't well managed and never have been in the Marvin Lewis era. Granted I do think Marvin has his fair share of strengths but a better coached team wins that game today IMO. getting the right guys on the field for the defense is zimmer's job, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 We had three turnovers, they had none. What's the winning percentage in the league when that occurs? Come on dude. First TOs was on everyone's list a week before the game. It was poorly prepared team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 getting the right guys on the field for the defense is zimmer's job, no? No, because Zimmer is our hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Lol, Marvin has no responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 getting the right guys on the field for the defense is zimmer's job, no? Somebody messed up... Managing substitutions and counting guys is someone's job, and they fucked up royally. One of the more undisciplined games of the Marvin era, IMO. 2 personnel penalties, big penalty on a long punt return, 2 personal fouls. You're not giving yourself a chance with that kinda shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 getting the right guys on the field for the defense is zimmer's job, no? All comes down to discipline and that starts at the top. I don't think that is going to stop us from being a good team but it stopped us from winning today's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Lol, Marvin has no responsibility. Lol, scharm has no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Bengal Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 1181, how many times have we seem poor clock management and stupid things such as personal fouls and 12 men on the field?Yes it was the players fault but they aren't well managed and never have been in the Marvin Lewis era.Granted I do think Marvin has his fair share of strengths but a better coached team wins that game today IMO.Gruden calls the plays--I put the poor clock management at the end of the first half squarely on him.But to be fair, there were so many screw-ups by the Offense, Defense, Special Teams, and Coaching that I'm fucking amazed that we only lost by 3 points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Andy looked great. Burfict is a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Somebody messed up... Managing substitutions and counting guys is someone's job, and they fucked up royally. One of the more undisciplined games of the Marvin era, IMO. 2 personnel penalties, big penalty on a long punt return, 2 personal fouls. You're not giving yourself a chance with that kinda shit. yea, the buck stops with Marvin, but that doesn't mean he screwed up. It's like blaming Go for Bung's kid deleting half the member list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Lol, scharm has no sense. You're drunk. That was poorly coached game. Some people will sit and deflect blame. Drink more and pass out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 yea, the buck stops with Marvin, but that doesn't mean he screwed up. It's like blaming Go for Bung's kid deleting half the member list. Ultimately, it's on Marvin, sure. Whether he delegated the responsibility or not, it obviously didn't get done and he's gotta answer to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Gruden calls the plays--I put the poor clock management at the end of the first half squarely on him. But to be fair, there were so many screw-ups by the Offense, Defense, Special Teams, and Coaching that I'm fucking amazed that we only lost by 3 points! That's because we have a better team. Games like this will have us on the road in the playoffs if we get there at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 We had three turnovers, they had none. What's the winning percentage in the league when that occurs? damn that marvin lewis. why in the hell does he teach these guys how to give the ball away? that dumbass ain't fit to coach. :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeds Orange Posted September 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 The fiasco right before half time was absolutely inexcusable. ...as was the penalty that ended the game. Lack......of.......discipline.......! We've seen it for years. damn that marvin lewis. why in the hell does he teach these guys how to give the ball away? that dumbass ain't fit to coach. :ph34r: An argument could be made that turnovers are a by-product of lack of discipline, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Ultimately, it's on Marvin, sure. Whether he delegated the responsibility or not, it obviously didn't get done and he's gotta answer to it. and fwiw, Marvin took the blame post game. Geoff Hobson @GeoffHobsonCin26m Lewis takes blame for timeouts. Points to injuries at LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboi Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Marvin Lewis has one of the worst open day records as an NFL head coach,an there is excuse for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 ...as was the penalty that ended the game. Lack......of.......discipline.......! We've seen it for years. An argument could be made that turnovers are a by-product of lack of discipline, as well. Turnovers talked all week. Really though the Sanu fumble is the only one that points to bad coaching. The rest were bad plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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