|schotzee| Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Cricket said: I think the 3rd tag is “regardless of position”, so the average of the top five players, period. Not doubting but where did you find/read that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 Years ago I looked up some of the info on the CBA and specifically tagging...and that is my recollection. I can’t recall the source, but shouldn’t be too difficult to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Bell will miss rest of season. Must be nice to turn your back on 14 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PutWittyNameHere Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 6:25 PM, Cricket said: Years ago I looked up some of the info on the CBA and specifically tagging...and that is my recollection. I can’t recall the source, but shouldn’t be too difficult to find. You're correct. The earlier confusion was that everyone assumed that if Bell skipped this season, it wouldn't count as an accrual and would wouldn't advance up the Franchise Tag ladder, meaning the Stealers could retag him next year at the same 14.5M rate (adjusted for any new salaries that could affect that number, of course). But, that turned out to not be the case because he's a 4 year veteran, so the season counts and he advances to the third tier of the franchise tag, which would give him the average of the top 5 salaries in the league, regardless of position (which the Stealers obviously won't do). At worst, the Stealers would use the transition tag, which would give them the right to match any offer Bell receives. In that scenario, the Stealers would likely wait and see what offer Bell got, and if it was reasonable enough, they'd probably keep his rights and then trade him to guarantee they got something back for him. But realistically, they're not going to do that and they'll just let him walk to get that headache over with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, PutWittyNameHere said: You're correct. The earlier confusion was that everyone assumed that if Bell skipped this season, it wouldn't count as an accrual and would wouldn't advance up the Franchise Tag ladder, meaning the Stealers could retag him next year at the same 14.5M rate (adjusted for any new salaries that could affect that number, of course). But, that turned out to not be the case because he's a 4 year veteran, so the season counts and he advances to the third tier of the franchise tag, which would give him the average of the top 5 salaries in the league, regardless of position (which the Stealers obviously won't do). At worst, the Stealers would use the transition tag, which would give them the right to match any offer Bell receives. In that scenario, the Stealers would likely wait and see what offer Bell got, and if it was reasonable enough, they'd probably keep his rights and then trade him to guarantee they got something back for him. But realistically, they're not going to do that and they'll just let him walk to get that headache over with. Why didn't they try to trade him this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 42 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Why didn't they try to trade him this season? Trade market was basically non existent for him as per bleacher report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PutWittyNameHere Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 36 minutes ago, schotzee said: Trade market was basically non existent for him as per bleacher report. Correct. First, he would have had to sign his franchise tag before the Stealers could have made any move with him involved, and Bell never signed it. So their hands were tied either way. But, if even if Bell had signed, then at best, he would have been a loaner until the end of the season when his tag expired and he became a free agent all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, schotzee said: Bell will miss rest of season. Must be nice to BE ABLE TO turn your back on 14 mil. fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 And that was 14 mil guaranteed, right? It's going to be interesting to see what kind of contract he ends up signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, Cricket said: fixed Haha . Thanks, that's actually what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, T-Dub said: Why didn't they try to trade him this season? That brings up an interesting parallel that I just came up with. How different is this from our quitter situation and how the orgs were viewed by the media? I know the specifics are different, but if Mikey didn't sign Bell and held him to the franchise tag, like he didn't give the quitter what he wanted, how demonized would he be? I know, the stealers probably deserve more of the benefit of a doubt since they win more, but I'm a fan of objectivity and against just pure discriminatory hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Hooky said: ...but I'm...against just pure discriminatory hate. ...so you hate hate. me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 Browns want to interview Condoleeza Rice for hc gig ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, schotzee said: Browns want to interview Condoleeza Rice for hc gig ?! I wanted her for commissioner but I guess she didn't have enough Integrities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, T-Dub said: I wanted her for commissioner but I guess she didn't have enough Integrities. Lol. I forgot about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 16 hours ago, Montana Bengal said: Come home Adam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 3 hours ago, schotzee said: Come hone Adam! I agree and no ninja. He and Burfict were the only two guys on this team with any enthusiasm and this year Burf seems like he's tranquilized. Except when he stepped on Yabda's handa. And got spit on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 10 hours ago, High School Harry said: I agree and no ninja. He and Burfict were the only two guys on this team with any enthusiasm and this year Burf seems like he's tranquilized. Except when he stepped on Yabda's handa. And got spit on. Yep, and I was being pretty much serious too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 I'd have no problem with him coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 Dang, that's a tough one. Is the leadership of a drunken angry manchild with no self-control better than the empty chair we have now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, T-Dub said: Dang, that's a tough one. Is the leadership of a drunken angry manchild with no self-control better than the empty chair we have now? "Empty Chairs do not make tackles" ~ Bruce Lee: Enter the Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, T-Dub said: Dang, that's a tough one. Is the leadership of a drunken angry manchild with no self-control better than the empty chair we have now? This team needs a pulse. I'd bring him back. Really can't hurt at this point. Rick also says to come home Adam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 Might as well have a team captain best known for spitting at people and shooting up "scrip cubs", not like this franchise has any standards anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 We do have standards. We don't put up with guys that run their route too short one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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