|High School Harry| Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 13 hours ago, Le Tigre said: Should Chase the Young plant Super Joe a few times—and generally harass him—in the Championship Game, will that sway anybody? Not in a championship game but since the 2020 opponents were announced there is a good chance of seeing Chase Young Chase Joe all over the field. Then the board will go wild with "we should have drafted Chase" posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 37 minutes ago, Jason said: Superman and the Avengers say “hi!” (Joel Klatt’s nickname for the Ohio State defense in case you don’t remember.) Yeah this year that’s probably accurate. Young/Okuda/Wade all first rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker57 Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 18 hours ago, membengal said: Burrow is a 23-year-old fifth year who graduated college in three years and in a pro-style offense. The value in rookie QB contracts is immediate - but they have to play. Making him sit behind anyone is a waste of time. just curious 5th year college player that graduated in 3 years? what did he do the other 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spicoli Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 16 hours ago, SF2 said: I love Joe Burrow but he reminds me of Jake Locker, Christian Ponder and Blaine Gabbert If those guys would have had Burrows moxie and feel for the game, they all would have been pro-bowlers. That’s the difference between Burrow and everyone else. He simply has a feel for the game and natural instincts for the position that can’t be taught. Not to mention he’s a 4.0 student that could have been in med school right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, High School Harry said: Not in a championship game but since the 2020 opponents were announced there is a good chance of seeing Chase Young Chase Joe all over the field. Then the board will go wild with "we should have drafted Chase" posts. I would expect the should have reactions, regardless of which one gets taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 minute ago, spicoli said: If those guys would have had Burrows moxie and feel for the game, they all would have been pro-bowlers. That’s the difference between Burrow and everyone else. He simply has a feel for the game and natural instincts for the position that can’t be taught. Not to mention he’s a 4.0 student that could have been in med school right now. I agree with this. There are QB's with the 'it' that simply lack talent and can't pull it off and there are QB's with talent but not the 'it' and simply dont seem to make it either. The Athletic had an article on the CP pick and there were scouts at the time concerned he was not really a leader, a bit of a wallflower, etc. CP never struck me as 'driven' so to speak to succeed. Burrow seems to be in this mode, Tua is as well really to bad about his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: I would expect the should have reactions, regardless of which one gets taken. Wait for the reaction when we select neither LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Mo Egger article in the Athletic today starts with this... Over the last 3 1/2 decades since I decided as a very young boy to pledge my allegiance to the Cincinnati Bengals, I’ve come to realize that being a fan of this franchise comes with just one guarantee. It’s that there’s no such thing as rock bottom..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, spicoli said: If those guys would have had Burrows moxie and feel for the game, they all would have been pro-bowlers. That’s the difference between Burrow and everyone else. He simply has a feel for the game and natural instincts for the position that can’t be taught. Not to mention he’s a 4.0 student that could have been in med school right now. This. I'm a member of an OSU website that is based largely on recruiting. and has inside sources with OSU. People around Burrow were saying he had the "it factor" from early in his OSU career. Had Ryan Day been head coach 3 or 4 years ago Burrow might have started over Barrett. Meyer loved JT, and was loyal to him, even after he had made it clear he was not a very good passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, stryker57 said: just curious 5th year college player that graduated in 3 years? what did he do the other 2? Play for LSU. Work on an advanced degree? He was a graduate transfer when he left OSU, which is why he was able to play immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Problem remains - the Inbreds will turn the 'it' into the Clown from IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Problem remains - the Inbreds will turn the 'it' into the Clown from IT. Wouldn't that be laid at the feet of the useless coaching staff--or is everything one and the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 54 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Problem remains - the Inbreds will turn the 'it' into the Clown from IT. New slogan: The Cincinnati Bengals Turning "it" to "shit" since 1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 3 hours ago, SF2 said: Well if Tua has not gotten hurt I would agree. Definitely no to Fromme. I like Justin Herbert more than Burrow but not at 1. I could not disagree more on your assessment of Herbert over Burrow. Nothing more to talk about if that is where you are at. whether or not Burrow ever becomes a franchise qb, who knows, but he has that skill set worth taking a swing on. Passing on that possibility to hope for a Fromme or Love is to repeat the 2011 draft and the decade of dalton again. I want to try for another Palmer type (hopefully without the knee assignation this time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 hours ago, stryker57 said: just curious 5th year college player that graduated in 3 years? what did he do the other 2? Started his Masters at LSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Wait for the reaction when we select neither LOL I would not be surprised if the Bengals use the number one pick to select a wide receiver. 1/2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|OneHeartBeat| Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 hours ago, spicoli said: If those guys would have had Burrows moxie and feel for the game, they all would have been pro-bowlers. That’s the difference between Burrow and everyone else. He simply has a feel for the game and natural instincts for the position that can’t be taught. Not to mention he’s a 4.0 student that could have been in med school right now. We're just going to have to disagree on our assessment of Burrow. I'm not using the #1 pick on a guy with moxie, and the "it" factor (which many on hear claimed Dalton had back in the day) and one outstanding season. Those who have compared his skill set to CP must not be watching the same quarterback I am. Again, I could be totally wrong and I'm going to be on board if he's the pick I love that he's from SE Ohio and that he seems like a great character guy. If it were me, I'm aggressive in FA, I'm taking Young #1 and I'm trading back in to the 1st and getting Tua. Everything I've read is that he's expected to make a full recovery, and he's been dominant since he took the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 hours ago, OneHeartBeat said: Everything I've read is that he's expected to make a full recovery, and he's been dominant since he took the field. Yeah, when he hasn't been hurt. Why would you expect someone to stay consistently healthy in the pros though when he's never done it in college? It'll all be moot anyways once he goes back to school for another year so I guess it doesn't really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Le Tigre said: Wouldn't that be laid at the feet of the useless coaching staff--or is everything one and the same? It all starts and ends at the top. We know it, coaches would know and players would know it. This concept seems to be lost on many but it is a proven truth of any organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 The bengals taking a first round pick with medical flags, when has that ever gone wrong for them? lol to THAT idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: It all starts and ends at the top. We know it, coaches would know and players would know it. This concept seems to be lost on many but it is a proven truth of any organization. That is a cop out. Don’t make this out of their element Coaching staff so blameless. They are not androids or children. I know your default setting is eternally stuck, but do try and deviate just a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Let's not discount Fromm just yet - think of what his mot - er, I mean, he could contribute to the city... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Le Tigre said: That is a cop out. Don’t make this out of their element Coaching staff so blameless. They are not androids or children. I know your default setting is eternally stuck, but do try and deviate just a little. Who hired the coaches? And who will also refuse to admit the mistake and not fire them? Good leaders accept responsibility, plain and simple. Everything this team is and everything it does comes from Mike Brown and the Inbreds. I would like to see this group come out and say they made mistakes and they have not provided the organization the opportunity to succeed. But that will never happen. And the culture of this team will never change until changes are made at the top. I am not being stubborn about this, it is simply how organizations function. It is human nature. Most of not all the coaches right now are trash but good luck finding better ones with the loser cultural this team has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 The bottomline is this team will forever be at a disadvantage because ownership refuses to spend the dough on the resources needed to keep them on equal footing with the rest of the league. Towels, gatorade, jock straps, scouts, FA's, indoor practice field, etc...if the rest of the league is doing it and you are not, you are absolutely at a disadvantage. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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