Sea Ray 66 Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 7:27 PM, T-Dub said: PatternMaster (re: LSU having a better OL than the Bengals & that being a problem for JB) "Burrow was sacked a ton and had to scramble often." "There's plenty of things a team can do to cut down on the sacks allowed, having a mobile QB that has a great pocket presence is a start. " (Burrow would go on to become the most sacked rookie QB in NFL history) bfine: "JB is a case of a QB making an Oline look better than it really was. Some around here think that is not possible." "Joe Burrow loves for defenses to bring pressure against 5 man protection. He loves this because he prides himself on the presnap read and knowing where the pressure the opponent is bringing will create a lapse in coverage. He then manipulates the pocket to negate the pressure and take advantage of the coverage." Arguably the best interior olineman in the history of the NFL (Bruce Matthews) once said: An oline makes a RB better. A QB makes an Oline better. membengal twitter links to PFF grading him the "best QB outside the pocket" and "most pressured QB in the SEC" jackie treehorn I think Burrow could not only survive, but thrive with even a modestly improved O-Line instead of a totally revamped one. UncleEarl A QB that reads defenses faster certainly helps an OL. A QB who is mobile and can throw on the run certainly helps an OL. A QB that locks in on a receiver, holds the ball too long, and is inaccurrate on the run makes an OL look bad. Not really that hard to understand. _________________________________________________________________ Plenty of other examples in the still-active "Fixing the OL" thread. Pretty sure there was a "Blow for Joe" type thread around this time last year too, whenj we were trying to convince ourselves that losing is a strategy.. But this is tiresome, so let's just say it never happened because I've lost interest. Congrats, you win a Joe Burrow is on IR. I don't think those threads tell us much. I for one think O line is a far bigger need than WR but I still think Tee Higgins was the right pick. We are so talent starved I think BPA is pretty much the way to go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 467 Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 50 minutes ago, Sea Ray said: I don't think those threads tell us much. I for one think O line is a far bigger need than WR but I still think Tee Higgins was the right pick. We are so talent starved I think BPA is pretty much the way to go Higgins is the real deal. The bigger fail was the the OL coach - both the fact that is is clearly useless but then listening to him state our current roster at the position was fine. Ugg. A better OL coach could have at least gotten more out of the current group, which may have saved a knee or two. If I was a pissed off Bengal player, I would show Mikey that video of the Hart/Spain fail and say "That DL was like a Ferrari blowing past two Malibu's" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shebengal 156 Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Higgins is the real deal. The bigger fail was the the OL coach - both the fact that is is clearly useless but then listening to him state our current roster at the position was fine. Ugg. A better OL coach could have at least gotten more out of the current group, which may have saved a knee or two. If I was a pissed off Bengal player, I would show Mikey that video of the Hart/Spain fail and say "That DL was like a Ferrari blowing past two Luminas" Fixed it for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 467 Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Shebengal said: Fixed it for you. LOL, forgot it was the famous Lumina and not a Malibu. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Le Tigre 2,336 Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 This Lumina rubbish. What about the Vega? I triple dog dare anyone here to not only know what this vehicle was...but owned or drove one. #iconoclastsRus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shebengal 156 Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: This Lumina rubbish. What about the Vega? I triple dog dare anyone here to not only know what this vehicle was...but owned or drove one. #iconoclastsRus It was a compact car made by Chevrolet in the 70’s and I had a friend in high school who drove one. But if you really want to get bargain basement, what about the Chevette? (Which I owned a very base model of with a manual transmission and drove until I got pregnant). I loved that car. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 342 Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: This Lumina rubbish. What about the Vega? I triple dog dare anyone here to not only know what this vehicle was...but owned or drove one. #iconoclastsRus Chevy vega.. Didnt they install the gas tank all the way back close to rear bumper? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Le Tigre 2,336 Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 You may be thinking of the Pinto, however the Vega’s fuel tank location was beneath the rear trunk. Full disclosure: I owned two of these fabulously disastrously made machines. The first one predictably had the engine seize (a downside of its aluminum block engine) and the second destroyed by human error (weed and Jack Daniels—hey it was the ‘70’s). When right though, they had a nice little pep to them. Can still find them around online for sale—at about 20 times what they cost me new back then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 467 Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Chevy vega.. Didnt they install the gas tank all the way back close to rear bumper? Aluminum block engine that spewed more oil than exhaust. What a POS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|SF2| 4,180 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 58 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: and the second destroyed by human error (weed and Jack Daniels—hey it was the ‘70’s). 1. The Cosworth Vega was one of the first tiny ass engine high rpm cars tuners loved to tinker with. Twin overhead cams, super light engine. 2. Weed and Jack Daniels? There is no substitute. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 342 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, SF2 said: 1. The Cosworth Vega was one of the first tiny ass engine high rpm cars tuners loved to tinker with. Twin overhead cams, super light engine. 2. Weed and Jack Daniels? There is no substitute. Bullshit... Ceuvo or Beam ..around my fire pit..with good company into the late hours.. And let the weed burn... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UncleEarl 680 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Bullshit... Ceuvo or Beam ..around my fire pit..with good company into the late hours.. And let the weed burn... Cuervo? Beam? Jack Daniels? Y’all need to step your booze game up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Le Tigre 2,336 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, SF2 said: 1. The Cosworth Vega was one of the first tiny ass engine high rpm cars tuners loved to tinker with. Twin overhead cams, super light engine. 2. Weed and Jack Daniels? There is no substitute. The first one was a simple 1972 hatchback. Plain Jane as oatmeal, but it was wheels. Like I said, the engine didn’t last at all. Second one was a 1974 GT. Jazzed it up a bit, and it did have some pop under that tin foil engine. Only had it for 6 mos before the operator error ended its road days. So much for this VegaBengals moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|SF2| 4,180 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 25 minutes ago, UncleEarl said: Cuervo? Beam? Jack Daniels? Y’all need to step your booze game up! Sinatra drank Jack Daniels. All that new tight jean wearing yuppie shit is for the birds. I do like Johnny Walker Black as well when I have company. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PatternMaster 860 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Uncle Nearest 1856 or 1820 if you're lucky.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|SF2| 4,180 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Bullshit... Ceuvo or Beam ..around my fire pit..with good company into the late hours.. And let the weed burn... Tequila??? Are you crazy?? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 342 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, SF2 said: Tequila??? Are you crazy?? The warnings were hilarious!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|SF2| 4,180 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: The warnings were hilarious!! It may cause pregnancy and cause you to get your ass kicked! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 342 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, SF2 said: It may cause pregnancy and cause you to get your ass kicked! Not me lol..im too mellow most times.. I have seen old friends fallout by drinking it too fast .. Im a sipper of Ceuervo... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|SF2| 4,180 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, claptonrocks said: Not me lol..im too mellow most times.. I have seen old friends fallout by drinking it too fast .. Im a sipper of Ceuervo... Wild Turkey and Teaquila have caused me to wake up in strange places. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 342 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, SF2 said: Wild Turkey and Teaquila have caused me to wake up in strange places. Yes to the tequila.. Ive wakened to find i was a stranger in a strange land when i was younger.. Good times yes.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UncleEarl 680 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 hours ago, SF2 said: Sinatra drank Jack Daniels. All that new tight jean wearing yuppie shit is for the birds. I do like Johnny Walker Black as well when I have company. Yeah, there is yuppie shit out there. I’m not talking about that. Wild Turkey 101, Evan Williams Bottled in Bond, and any basic all agave tequila is worlds better than JD, Beam and Cuervo. All under $25. There are more. Sinatra didn’t have many choices. We do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 342 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, UncleEarl said: Yeah, there is yuppie shit out there. I’m not talking about that. Wild Turkey 101, Evan Williams Bottled in Bond, and any basic all agave tequila is worlds better than JD, Beam and Cuervo. All under $25. There are more. Sinatra didn’t have many choices. We do. Yes to that.. Some people havie their favorites and are good with that.. To each his own!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LostInDaJungle 1,093 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 hours ago, claptonrocks said: Yes to that.. Some people havie their favorites and are good with that.. To each his own!! Laphroaig and water. I learned to drink scotch in college. You never have to share. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|High School Harry| 3,080 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 9 hours ago, Le Tigre said: The first one was a simple 1972 hatchback. Plain Jane as oatmeal, but it was wheels. Like I said, the engine didn’t last at all. Second one was a 1974 GT. Jazzed it up a bit, and it did have some pop under that tin foil engine. Only had it for 6 mos before the operator error ended its road days. So much for this VegaBengals moment. I had a dark blue Vega panel truck. No kidding. Station wagon with nothing behind the driver and passenger seat and a solid panel where the rear windows would have been. Sold as a light delivery vehicle, florist shops, drug stores, etc. I threw a mattress in the back and used it for long trips sleeping in the thing. Slowly, to be sure, and had to use the transmission constantly to keep from stalling out on any sort of grade. But fun and fun on dates. Aluminum heads warped and the engine was useless after a short period of time. Body made with cheap Japanese steel and they became infamous for rusting while on the showroom floor. But I learned my lesson. Traded it in on a spiffy red Pontiac Astra station wagon. A Pontiac Vega. Same car but different trim. It did look nice but looked nice parked in front of my house because it never ran. My girlfriend at the time's father ran a garage and he spent more time in it than I did. Under the hood. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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