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17 hours ago, GoBengals said:

 

it literally can and it literally was blamed on the o-line, specifically by the OC, who even called out the two Olinemen who fucked it up and how they fucked it up.

 

but go off i guess.

 

we are still just going to ignore how the pass game the first 4 games specifically hurt the run game due to everything being short and underneath, so no room to run as everyone was at the line anyway cause joe wasnt gonna hold the ball for more than 2.0 seconds..

 

anyone watch williams and brown run the ball? Mixon is clearly the better runner and makes more out of less everytime in comparison. both the other two are first touch and down. 

 

this whole "if it isnt great, it sucks and needs replaced" mentality of this fanbase is exhausting. it really sucks that going into week 7 we are still working on consistency and expanding the offense, but thats where we are. the only glaring problem is Irv Smith, and he started with the trash offense, then got hurt, and has been bad for 2 weeks, bot frankly the offense has changed each week so much with joes health, he hasnt had a fair shake.

 

but this is the nfl, and not everyone gets  fair shake. so im down for a change, but im guessing he gets one more week like others said. but he is bad enough to risk, in the "cant be worse" thought process

 

Volson fucking sucks.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/breaking-down-reasons-why-bengals-023013925.html

 

"Running back Joe Mixon is averaging 3.8 yards per carry (No. 35 in the NFL) and has one touchdown through six games. According to Pro Football Focus, Mixon is averaging 2.39 yards after contact and that ranks No. 133 in the NFL."

 

How about letting Cordell Volson run the ball esp in short yardage situations.

He couldn't do any worse and could certainly move the pile rather than falling on

his ass after a loss and jumping up and pounding his chest.

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32 minutes ago, High School Harry said:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/breaking-down-reasons-why-bengals-023013925.html

 

"Running back Joe Mixon is averaging 3.8 yards per carry (No. 35 in the NFL) and has one touchdown through six games. According to Pro Football Focus, Mixon is averaging 2.39 yards after contact and that ranks No. 133 in the NFL."

 

How about letting Cordell Volson run the ball esp in short yardage situations.

He couldn't do any worse and could certainly move the pile rather than falling on

his ass after a loss and jumping up and pounding his chest.

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Cordell Volson move the pile? He's part of an Oline that can't get any push for the RB on the 1 yard line. 

 

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4 hours ago, Le Tigre said:

It’s easier to blame one part of the piece, as opposed to the whole piece. 

I like the quote but in football terms you have to start somewhere.

 

The stunt and blitz on the left side of our oline takes us out of plays over and over.

If Mixon's game is non blocking just screens or dumpings ok.

That leaves Volson on an island to guess which one to block.

 

Simple solution is install a blocking back to give JB that extra time to go thru his reads instead of unloading a couple yrd  to Chase in 1.9 ....

 

Yes there's a forest to discern but it's quite obvious what trees are rotten..

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https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2023/10/18/nfl-see-bye-week-grades-for-joe-burrow-cincinnati-bengals-jason-williams-column/

 

Williams: See bye-week grades for quarterback Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals

:pissing:1398199394000-jwilliams.jpg?width=48&heiJason Williams
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The Bengals aren't good. They're not bad, either. They are what their 3-3 recordindicates:

Average.

And average means they've underachieved so far. The first six games were supposed to be the easy part of the schedule for a team that entered the season with Super Bowl expectations.

 

Here is the annual bye-week report card:

Joe Burrow: C

Toughest grade to determine on this report. Some may say this is too high. Some may say it's too low. Fair enough. How do you grade a guy who's played hurt four of the six games? On one hand, you can appreciate his effort and toughness. You can say a partially healthy Burrow probably gives the Bengals a better chance to win than a fully healthy backup Jake Browning.

On the other hand, if Burrow is going to play, you expect better. His calf has been fine the last two games, and he turned in mixed results. He was the Joe Burrow everyone expects in the win vs. Arizona two weeks ago. His 63-yard touchdown bomb to Ja'Marr Chase was a thing of beauty − a sign at the time that things were starting to turn around. And then came the offensive dud against Seattle last Sunday, when Burrow and the offense were out of sync, failed to consistently sustain drives and didn't score a second-half touchdown.

Call this a teacher's pet grade. Burrow gets the benefit of the doubt with the Arizona performance and simply by what his presence means to the franchise.

Passing game: C

The statistics says this grade should be lower. The Bengals rank last in the NFL in passing yards per play. As Burrow goes, so goes the passing game. And it's not fair to give the passing game a lower grade than Burrow.

Chase is always open. He's doing his job. Slot receiver Tyler Boyd is doing his job. Tee Higgins has been hampered by a rib injury since Week 4. He had some costly drops before his injury.

The QB-receiver communication was a problem in the first few games, never more evident than when Burrow threw to an invisible receiver along the sideline in the season-opening loss in Cleveland.

The passing game is getting little help from tight end Irv Smith Jr. That's on the front office, though, after the Bengals didn't re-sign veteran Hayden Hurst, who would've helped in the short passing game as Burrow fought through the injury.

Running game: F

The Bengals rank dead last in the NFL in rushing yards per game. It shouldn’t surprise anyone after the Bengals were one of the worst rushing teams last season, and the front office did nothing in the offseason to fix it.

Plenty of good running backs were available, and the Bengals had money to spend. Instead, Joe Mixon took a pay cut. And the Bengals are now paying the price for going cheap.

Mixon continues to show he’s no longer a top-level starting running back.:whistle: His limited touches show the coaching staff doesn’t trust him to carry the offense. A lack of a reliable running game really hurt the Bengals as Burrow battled the injury.

Don’t expect this grade to improve much, if at all, the rest of the season.

Offensive line: D

Maybe the biggest disappointment on the team, given the Bengals have invested $117 million the last two few years in three free-agent linemen. You can get down a rabbit hole quickly when looking at advanced stats on offensive lines. Just know this: By every measure, the Bengals rank in the bottom third in the NFL in both pass and run protection. And most of the teams close to the Bengals in these rankings haven't spent nearly as much on offensive line salaries as Cincinnati has. Bottom line: The offense would be better if the line was better.

Offense overall: D+

Burrow & Co. have been nothing short of a disappoint. Cincinnati ranks No. 27 in the NFL in points scored. The Bengals rank last in total yards per game. Unacceptable for a team that has the highest-paid player in NFL history at quarterback and has invested so much money in its offensive line.

Defense: B-

Bolstered by underrated defensive end Trey Hendrickson, the defense has shown up in the Bengals' three wins. It particularly bailed out the inept offense in wins over the Los Angeles Rams and Seattle. A pick-six changed the momentum in the must-win against Arizona.

The defense has had to overcome the loss of starting safeties and team leaders Jesse Bates and Vonn Bell, both of whom left in the offseason as free agents. The Bengals have struggled to tackle, but that shouldn't be too hard to fix for highly respected defensive coordinator Lou Anarumo.

Special teams: B

Evan McPherson's four field goals spared the Bengals from embarrassment on Monday Night Football vs. the Rams in Week 3. He's 10-for-12 on field goals, with both misses from beyond 50 yards. The Bengals used a draft pick on punter Brad Robbins, and he needs to improve down the stretch. His 44.3-yards-per-punt average ranks 27th in the league. Rookie punt returner Charlie Jones showed promise in the first three games before getting hurt. He has one of the three punts returned for a touchdown in the league this season.

Coaching: C-

The Bengals mishandled the Burrow injury situation at the start of the season. He should've sat out the first game or two to get healthy. As such, the Bengals made minimal game-plan adjustments to find a way to work around Burrow's bum leg. The team wasn't ready to play in the first four games. Once again, Taylor's take-it-easy approach in training camp led to the slow start. It's left little margin for error as the Bengals head into the tough part of their schedule, starting Oct. 29 at San Francisco.

 

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1 hour ago, Dautcom08 said:

STOCK DOWN - 52 Week Low:

 

Jason Williams and The Cincinnati Enquirer

 

1 hour ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

 

Seriously

 

1 hour ago, spicoli said:


100%. What a moron. 

OK... we've established that Jason Williams is a dick head debbie downer.  And I agree.

But what in the article do you/any of us disagree with and why?:popcorn:

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OK... we've established that Jason Williams is a dick head debbie downer.  And I agree.

But what in the article do you/any of us disagree with and why?:popcorn:

 

 

Well he, and you, are wrong about Mixon. Every single time there has been a hole to run through he has hit it. In the passing game other than one dropped pass last week he has done his job. 

 

He, and you, simply do not recognize that nobody else on the team has done anything in the running game when given the chance, to include Jamar Chase, who had a few plays where he got the ball in the back field and was stopped. 

 

You can argue that we dont have a RB (we do) on the roster that can get yards, but are you going to make that argument about Jamar Chase? Somehow I think not.

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OK... we've established that Jason Williams is a dick head debbie downer.  And I agree.

But what in the article do you/any of us disagree with and why?:popcorn:

 

I disagree with his (and The Enquirer) always negative BS slant against the Bengals.  He breaks down every positional group of the offense to give them a piss poor grade and then blankets the defense together so he can give them a half ass B- as a negative?  Why not highlight some of the great things the defense has done so far in the first half?  Mentions Bates and Bell, but no mention of how awesome Dax, CTB and DJ Turner have been or how the defense and the pass rush has come on as of late.

 

And on the RB front Mixon is as good as any of the "plenty of good running backs were available - but the Bengals went cheap" that were free agents that he mentioned.  Off the top of my head I think every free agent RB that was signed this past offseason is either in a committee or a backup with the exception of Montgomery who has really only been a product of Detroit's VERY good OL.  Is he grouping the likes of Cook, Elliott, Hunt et al as good because they had "names" at one point in the NFL?  I hope not, because they're not good anymore.

 

His reasoning for the Coaching grade is laughable at best as well.  Cherry picking a headline that Burrow should have sat "the first game or two".  They started 0-2 and that wasn't improving without Burrow (could even argue they "should" have beaten the Ravens as they had their chances).  Also, they weren't starting better than 3-3 without him regardless of how the offense looked.  I'm not knocking the coaching grade but give a reasoning like play calling or how the offense has functioned schematically as opposed to that nonsense.

 

Jason "I'm Too Old For a Fauxhawk" Williams analysis is always a predictable LOL.

 

I'm sure since we're headed into a bye week Monday's article will be reminding everyone about the evil Mike Brown's stadium lease.

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42 minutes ago, Dautcom08 said:

 

I disagree with his (and The Enquirer) always negative BS slant against the Bengals.  He breaks down every positional group of the offense to give them a piss poor grade and then blankets the defense together so he can give them a half ass B- as a negative?  Why not highlight some of the great things the defense has done so far in the first half?  Mentions Bates and Bell, but no mention of how awesome Dax, CTB and DJ Turner have been or how the defense and the pass rush has come on as of late.

 

And on the RB front Mixon is as good as any of the "plenty of good running backs were available - but the Bengals went cheap" that were free agents that he mentioned.  Off the top of my head I think every free agent RB that was signed this past offseason is either in a committee or a backup with the exception of Montgomery who has really only been a product of Detroit's VERY good OL.  Is he grouping the likes of Cook, Elliott, Hunt et al as good because they had "names" at one point in the NFL?  I hope not, because they're not good anymore.

 

His reasoning for the Coaching grade is laughable at best as well.  Cherry picking a headline that Burrow should have sat "the first game or two".  They started 0-2 and that wasn't improving without Burrow (could even argue they "should" have beaten the Ravens as they had their chances).  Also, they weren't starting better than 3-3 without him regardless of how the offense looked.  I'm not knocking the coaching grade but give a reasoning like play calling or how the offense has functioned schematically as opposed to that nonsense.

 

Jason "I'm Too Old For a Fauxhawk" Williams analysis is always a predictable LOL.

 

I'm sure since we're headed into a bye week Monday's article will be reminding everyone about the evil Mike Brown's stadium lease.

Well said and thank you.

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On 10/18/2023 at 8:20 PM, stryker57 said:

that and they pass to fucking much ,  and  want to run out of the shotgun.  and their running plays are predictable.  pretty much teams run blitz fill the holes and if its a pass they know right where Burrow is going to be standing.   

 

That was definitely the case in the first 4 weeks of the season, now that he's more mobile he can get to different spots and extend plays in passing situations and we are 2-0 because he can move around much better than the first month of the season. 

 

Hopefully, the offense figures out how to run the ball effectively and they aren't dead last in running the ball by week 10. 

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Cincinnati Bengals

 

Don’t look now, but following Sunday’s 17-13 victory over the Seahawks, the Bengals have won three of their past four and Joe Burrow is starting to do stuff like this:

 

 

Burrow, who’s been trying to shake a nagging calf injury since early in training camp, got up over 18 mph on that scramble, according to Next Gen Stats’s tracking data. That’s a sign that his calf is getting healthier, and thanks to another valiant effort by Lou Anarumo’s defense, Cincinnati is still within a game of first place in the AFC North. It’s starting to feel like the Bengals are back.

 

If you want to hold on to that optimism, just skip ahead to the next team right now. Oh, and don’t look at Sunday’s box score, this week’s film, or really any season-long stats—whether they’re counting stats or rate stats. While it ultimately ended in a W, the Seahawks game may have been the most concerning performance yet for the Bengals offense. The offense averaged minus-0.05 expected points added per play. Burrow averaged 4.4 yards per dropback—despite looking at his best physically for the first time this season—and the run game managed just 46 yards on 15 carries. After two early touchdown drives, the Bengals couldn’t do much of anything.

 

While I’m usually quick to blame Zac Taylor whenever this highly-powered offense stalls out, Sunday’s ugly performance falls more on Burrow. While he made more plays with his legs, he didn’t throw the ball well. There were several misplaced passes leading to incompletions, he didn’t let plays develop nearly enough—too eager to check the ball down—and he kept Seattle in the game with a poorly thrown interception.

 

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Fortunately for Cincinnati, Anarumo pitched a near-perfect game against a red-hot Geno Smith. The Seahawks quarterback completed 66 percent of his passes, but his expected completion percentage—which is based on pressure, depth of throw, and receiver separation—was just 58.1 percent, per Next Gen Stats. The game was decided by the throws Smith couldn’t get off. Anarumo tossed some nice changeups at Geno and got him to hold the ball long enough for the pass rush to get home. In Geno’s defense, he did not have a lot of options downfield:

 

 

Anarumo’s defense is coming up big in high-leverage situations, and Burrow is getting healthier. But the vibes are still off, and with a tough schedule ahead, Cincinnati could rapidly fall behind the top teams in the conference.

 

 

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2023/10/16/23919423/cincinnati-bengals-los-angeles-rams-new-york-jets-houston-texans-nfl-teams-trending-up-down

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