|BlackJesus| Posted November 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 The last time Burrow got injured the team left the draft with Chase and was in the Super Bowl that season. Time to find that gem that will help propel the Bengals into the SB next year in Joe & Ja'Marr's New Orleans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 26 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: Tigerjaw and I are in the Joe Goodberry chat. I am adamant that Browning wasn't the key to the loss. I am the minority. D and scheme in my mind. That dumb Browning pick deep in Stealers territory was a boig part of the momentum shift in the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted November 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 Plus we wasted the only orange jersey game of the year on that shitfest ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: Now we have to ask the question ... ??? how much of the offensive magic is Burrow changing the play on his own at the line, which Browning likely doesn't do. Not only is Burrow the team's best player, but he's the team's best coach as well. We're now missing both. I am confused by this and you are not the only one saying it......when has this offense been magic? Everything is hard. No one is running wide open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: That dumb Browning pick deep in Stealers territory was a boig part of the momentum shift in the game. Completely. But Burrow has done that....just did that a few weeks ago right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: The last time Burrow got injured the team left the draft with Chase and was in the Super Bowl that season. Time to find that gem that will help propel the Bengals into the SB next year in Joe & Ja'Marr's New Orleans. We should get a top ten draft pick and the last place schedule. Lets go! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sois Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 42 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: If I am Tee Higgins I would consider sitting out the rest of the season ... (could be what he's doing already) With a contract or tag coming up, no reason to hurt your value or get injured with Browning throwing you the ball. He's going to be a monster in KC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 So what did we learn? QB: Not sure. I don't think he was as bad as some say but it certainly didn't end all the questions as to whether we need a better backup (Ryan Tannehill I have my eyes on you) Browning completed a pass to 9 different guys. That's important. RB: Nothing. No one had a carry but Mixon and he only had 8. To 26 passes.... WR: While I don't think we need the best WR unit in the NFL you need more than 1 weapon. We don't seem to have that with Higgins out. (I still think we should let him go) TE: I think they were a success today. All 4 guys had catches, 1 scored, Just replace Irv Smith with a better weapon and the group is fine. OL: I frankly have no idea DL: Murphy got a sack, that was cool. LB: Were a step slow against the TEs. Could have a better guy to cover tight ends DB: How did battle do? Not sure we learned much. Hate games like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKOTA Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 39 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: The last time Burrow got injured the team left the draft with Chase and was in the Super Bowl that season. Time to find that gem that will help propel the Bengals into the SB next year in Joe & Ja'Marr's New Orleans. Marvin Harrison Jr? Probably an OT or DE though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: So what did we learn? QB: Not sure. I don't think he was as bad as some say but it certainly didn't end all the questions as to whether we need a better backup (Ryan Tannehill I have my eyes on you) Browning completed a pass to 9 different guys. That's important. RB: Nothing. No one had a carry but Mixon and he only had 8. To 26 passes.... WR: While I don't think we need the best WR unit in the NFL you need more than 1 weapon. We don't seem to have that with Higgins out. (I still think we should let him go) TE: I think they were a success today. All 4 guys had catches, 1 scored, Just replace Irv Smith with a better weapon and the group is fine. OL: I frankly have no idea DL: Murphy got a sack, that was cool. LB: Were a step slow against the TEs. Could have a better guy to cover tight ends DB: How did battle do? Not sure we learned much. Hate games like this. I'm not sure what anyone expected out of Browning, he showed who he was in the preseason and it's not a QB that belongs on an NFL team. You can't scheme out of that. What is more troubling to me is how much the defense has dropped off this year. I think alot of this can be fixed if we focus on both lines in the offseason. Get me 2 Olinemen, a RT and a G and and I would even take two DTs, a NT and a guy who can do what Ogunjob used to do here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 I dont believe in this coaching staff at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted November 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said: when has this offense been magic? Everything is hard. Bengals went to the Super Bowl (came back from 24-3 against Chiefs to go there), then made AFC Championship (dismantled Buffalo in the snow), then this year once Burrow had 2 legs they went 4-0 and were hitting their stride until the Houston trap game and Boyd's drop. Those long pass plays for TDs from Burrow to Chase, are those all Burrow improvising, or Zac draws them up that way. I imagine its the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: WR: While I don't think we need the best WR unit in the NFL you need more than 1 weapon. We don't seem to have that with Higgins out. (I still think we should let him go) The observation began accurately, the admission that Tee should be jettisoned makes the total Pretzel Logic. It will be—as we have seen the last 3 weeks—Uno and hope-to-God. Boyd is capable—but limited. Andrei Whatzit has a flash or two, but is really just a guy. Charlie Fizzle is far beyond unknown. I suppose the wet dream of Harrison Jr can warm one at night, but he is still 1 season minimum from developing. And, again, when a fully developed product is on one’s roster, what is the need? And saving money to pay Uno brings the full circle return to 1 great player and a bunch of guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 30 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: I dont believe in this coaching staff at all. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ@w Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 hour ago, UncleEarl said: Someone in the national media sees it. He forgot about pushing the RB for around 15 yards with their hands and arms with no flag that led to a FG too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 28 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: The observation began accurately, the admission that Tee should be jettisoned makes the total Pretzel Logic. It will be—as we have seen the last 3 weeks—Uno and hope-to-God. Boyd is capable—but limited. Andrei Whatzit has a flash or two, but is really just a guy. Charlie Fizzle is far beyond unknown. I suppose the wet dream of Harrison Jr can warm one at night, but he is still 1 season minimum from developing. And, again, when a fully developed product is on one’s roster, what is the need? And saving money to pay Uno brings the full circle return to 1 great player and a bunch of guys. You can have weapons without paying 2 guys like top 10 wideouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted November 26, 2023 Report Share Posted November 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: You can have weapons without paying 2 guys like top 10 wideouts Theoretically. However my point regarding development—and who the other guys are—is still there. And if the intent is to buy an FA receiver…is this not dog-chasing-tail also? Money out the door for a hope. I dunno. It’s all musing anyway. Hot Stove League stuff..even though the season has 6 games left in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Bengal Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Now we know why Joe played the first couple of games on one leg… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said: I dont believe in this coaching staff at all. Too often feel like Burrow wins games despite them. Like he's playing against his own OL and play calling as well as the opposite team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Some coaching changes on the offensive side have to happen this offseason. Can’t roll out this same crew. OL and OC would be on my list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Some coaching changes on the offensive side have to happen this offseason. Can’t roll out this same crew. OL and OC would be on my list Unfortunate side effect of losing Burrow is that they have an excuse. Of course that doesn't excuse not drafting a single OL prospect or shoehorning Jonah into the RT spot but.. Again a lack of accountability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Some coaching changes on the offensive side have to happen this offseason. Can’t roll out this same crew. OL and OC would be on my list I'd like to see us let Pollack go and hire Roy Istvan the assistant Oline coach for the Eagles. The I would like to see them let Calahan go and hire a O coord that calls plays and lets Zach just be a head coach. Zach has done wonders here creating a culture. I thnk he is a great head coach but the play calling and play design has to get better. Get an actual O Coordinator. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 hours ago, BlackJesus said: Got that right. JB was an excellent BB player.(PG/SG) Believe he was good at baseball as well. Pure athlete.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ@w Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: Completely. But Burrow has done that....just did that a few weeks ago right? Did you forget about the other three, where two luckily bounced into our WRs hands, and one was dropped. Unless my memory is failing me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 hours ago, BlackJesus said: This defense is designed to play with the lead, as they assumed the team should usually have the lead with a top 3 QB in the NFL. That's why the DL does so well in the 4th QT when they have the lead and can tee off on people. But when they are down, this defense gets exposed ... can't tackle, can't cover TEs and over reliant on turnovers. Lou's genius is scheming how to stop opponents who are dropping back to pass 40 times and throwing outside the numbers. But when they go old school and run it and dump off to the TE, he has no solution. Yes .yes. Even the Wizard cant solve everything. But how in the hell do you place your safeties 15 yrds back in passing downs? Friermuth destroyed the open field ... Inbreds don't have speed like Miami so that huge cushion cost us bigtime Love Lou but he ain't perfect.😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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