|High School Harry| Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 18 hours ago, Jamie_B said: Also tell me why Matt Lee looks like our poster @BlackJesus Wait... wot? Black Jesus is not only a real person but also exists and you have seen him? Unbelievable. Come to think about it... I feel much the same way about you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 21 minutes ago, High School Harry said: Wait... wot? Black Jesus is not only a real person but also exists and you have seen him? Many years ago, several of us met up in "CincifuckinJacksonville" (Go was there too). 😎 But I also met up with a few posters like Jamie and others in DC many years ago as well. Seems like several lifetimes ago though. 👴 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 4 hours ago, dex said: Plenty of rumors that the Stealers have already settled on Mims with pick 20 ... Nightmare scenario for me. Watching Mims potentially be a 8 time pro bowler for the piss hankies, knowing that he could have been a Bengal. 💔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 2 hours ago, texbengal said: If Latham is gone (my first choice), I'd be happy with Fautanu or Barton or Fuaga... Barton has been a multl-year starter at Duke, some at center and most at LT. Smart kid, versatile. Good athlete - moves well, so he'd upgrade the OL that way. From what I've read and heard, he's very well-regarded by NFL scouts/personnel weenies for his tenacity and his technique. Supposedly arms are shorter than ideal. But personally, I wouldn't mind that pick one bit. 6'5" 313lbs..arm..32 7/8". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 2 hours ago, BlackJesus said: That's my concern for Barton if he's playing anything other than center, where short arms might even be preferable. But on the outside at OT, short arms are a huge liability (see Jonah). In a year where there are 36" arms (Mims and Paul) and 35" arms (Latham) going for 32-33" just seems like a self-inflicted wound waiting to happen. Yes....34" should be the bare minimum for OTs.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, BlackJesus said: ... Nightmare scenario for me. Watching Mims potentially be a 8 time pro bowler for the piss hankies, knowing that he could have been a Bengal. 💔 Feel it too.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 14 hours ago, claptonrocks said: Feel it too.. As long as we get a good player that's all that matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 16 minutes ago, New Jersey Bengal said: As CB long as we get a good player that's all that matters 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 4 hours ago, claptonrocks said: Give me Mims pls. Fautanu is worthy. Graham Barton is getting more praise as time goes on... What u think about Barton here? Barton is expected to be an interior player, most likely at center. Karras is going into the final year of his contract. Trey Hill hasn't shown anything in 3 years and Max Scharping is currently still a free agent. So drafting a center at some point seems likely. But I doubt it's the first round and if we did take one, I'd think Jackson Powers-Jackson is more likely. This is a pretty good draft class for centers and we could always just extend Karras for a year or two, so it's not a high priority compared to RT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 One interesting aspect to me about this draft is there are players who I like at their primary position, but love them at their secondary or potential position. For instance, I like Latham and Fautanu at OT, but I love them both as guards. I like Darius Robinson as a DE, but I love him as a DT (even more than Newton tbh). I like Barton as a G, but I love him as a C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 33 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: For instance, I like Latham and Fautanu at OT, but I love them both as guards. If there is one area the Bengals should change…it’s the constant attempts to make natural tackles into guards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 34 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: If there is one area the Bengals should change…it’s the constant attempts to make natural tackles into guards. ... I would argue the Bengals do it in reverse. They took a short arm "natural guard" (Jonah) and tried to play him at tackle. To me body measurements, arm length, mobility, strength, athleticism, and weight distribution determine "natural" position in the NFL more than what someone played in college. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 It would be glorious if the Bengals took both Mims and Maason Smith in Rds 1-2 before the Squeelers could get either of them. 😆 The Bengals had both of them in for visits and they would both fill needs (OT, DT). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, BlackJesus said: ... I would argue the Bengals do it in reverse. They took a short arm "natural guard" (Jonah) and tried to play him at tackle. To me body measurements, arm length, mobility, strength, athleticism, and weight distribution determine "natural" position in the NFL more than what someone played in college. A lot depends, I suppose. But Jonah was a consensus All-American tackle at Alabama—with a throwing QB. Pass blocking was obviously comfortable for him. Carman was an anchor LT for Sunshine at Clemson. It’s what he played. Whitworth was a natural tackle at LSU. The Bengals tried to jam him at guard initially. It didn’t work. 1000 Whatabouts for all kinds of players. Not sure metrics always fit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 9 hours ago, Le Tigre said: A lot depends, I suppose. But Jonah was a consensus All-American tackle at Alabama—with a throwing QB. Pass blocking was obviously comfortable for him. Carman was an anchor LT for Sunshine at Clemson. It’s what he played. Whitworth was a natural tackle at LSU. The Bengals tried to jam him at guard initially. It didn’t work. 1000 Whatabouts for all kinds of players. Not sure metrics always fit agree with most - but I don’t on Whit. He was a really good guard…. Just provided more value at T, which is what he played at LSU. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 10 hours ago, BlackJesus said: It would be glorious if the Bengals took both Mims and Maason Smith in Rds 1-2 before the Squeelers could get either of them. 😆 The Bengals had both of them in for visits and they would both fill needs (OT, DT). maybe it’s me, but I don’t get what “more than more of them” means. Either predictive text got him, or “more than more” is some Pittsburgh slang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 13 hours ago, Le Tigre said: If there is one area the Bengals should change…it’s the constant attempts to make natural tackles into guards. If there was one area I would change it’s the constant picking of shit OL and trying to make them good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Is there a position in this draft that you want the Bengals to avoid? For me it is safety. They have taken one in the premium rounds in the last drafts, neither of which figures to start this year. They brought in Stone and Vonn Bell to be the starters. They have a special teams ace in Tycen Anderson. So that is already 5 safeties. This isn't even a good year for safeties. What prompted this rant was a local media draft that had the Bengals taking 2 safeties, including one in the 3rd round. NOPE, please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, texbengal said: maybe it’s me, but I don’t get what “more than more of them” means. Either predictive text got him, or “more than more” is some Pittsburgh slang. Probably meant to say “…more than one of them” and just didn’t bother to proofread it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 17 hours ago, Le Tigre said: If there is one area the Bengals should change…it’s the constant attempts to make natural tackles into guards. The league does it. Alot depends on their arm length as you know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 6 hours ago, texbengal said: maybe it’s me, but I don’t get what “more than more of them” means. Either predictive text got him, or “more than more” is some Pittsburgh slang. Inbreds talk a lil differently..😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 4 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: If there was one area I would change it’s the constant picking of shit OL and trying to make them good. They try .. Have you seen any linemen coached up under Pollack? I may be too hard on him and I don't know his teaching techniques but Damn! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 27 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: The league does it. Alot depends on their arm length as you know. Oh yes…arm length. So they can hold…err block better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gupps Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 5 hours ago, dex said: Is there a position in this draft that you want the Bengals to avoid? For me it is safety. They have taken one in the premium rounds in the last drafts, neither of which figures to start this year. They brought in Stone and Vonn Bell to be the starters. They have a special teams ace in Tycen Anderson. So that is already 5 safeties. This isn't even a good year for safeties. What prompted this rant was a local media draft that had the Bengals taking 2 safeties, including one in the 3rd round. NOPE, please. Safety followed by LB followed by WR (unless Tee is traded). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, gupps said: Safety followed by LB followed by WR (unless Tee is traded). Why wouldn't you want a WR? The draft is incredibly deep with them. The Bengals have to replace Boyd this year and likely Higgins next year. That to me is a double dip position, maybe a WR on Day Two and another one on Day Three. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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