Retired Numbers

[KA14_HOF]

Currently, only Bob Johnson's #54 has been retired by the Bengals. With the roster now as bloated as it can possibly get, there are a total of 9 unused jersey numbers, including #13 (Riley), #14 (Anderson) and #78 (Munoz). Mims is wearing Willie Anderson's #71.

 

#13, #14 and #78 are generally left unused. Is there any consensus on whether other numbers should be retired? Or is this viewed as an impractical honor that isn't really necessary?

[|BlackJesus|]

My criteria would be that only the Hall of Fame merits a # retirement. So, only #78 and #13 for the moment. 

 

I was a little worried when Mims took #71 as Willie might get in Canton soon. Mims likely wanted his college #65, but Cappa already had it. 

[|High School Harry|]

JMHO... I vote for no more retired numbers.  OK with 54 but let's leave it at that.

OK with not reissuing some for the real regular season, simply do not officially retire them.

Wasn't there a team that retired so many numbers they had to un-retire and reissue some?

Dallas? maybe?

[Jason]

3 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

My criteria would be that only the Hall of Fame merits a # retirement. So, only #78 and #13 for the moment. 

 

I was a little worried when Mims took #71 as Willie might get in Canton soon. Mims likely wanted his college #65, but Cappa already had it. 

I think the team should decide whose number to retire, not some committee that doesn't like the Bengals.  But the criteria should be very high.  

[Bleeds Orange]

I still can't believe they let Dalton have 14.

[|BlackJesus|]

I think they will want to retire #9 in about 12 or so years. 😎 

[Le Tigre]

5 hours ago, Bleeds Orange said:

I still can't believe they let Dalton have 14.

Even though he finished right behind the guy who wore it previously in all-time passing? 

[Shebengal]

8 hours ago, Bleeds Orange said:

I still can't believe they let Dalton have 14.

Why not? They gave David Klingler #7. 😂

[KA14_HOF]

6 hours ago, Shebengal said:

Why not? They gave David Klingler #7. 😂

I was initially surprised they issued #14 to Dalton, but by comparison to #7, they were pretty restrained.

 

After Anderson and Dalton, only Jake Luton (2023 rookie camp) has worn it.

 

Once Klingler left, the #7 was used by Joe Germaine, Scott Rislov, Eric Meyer, Jeff Smith, Todd Boeckman, Bruce Gradkowski, Greg McElroy, Matt Linehan, Matt Barkley, Connor Cook, Jake Dolegala, Kevin Hogan, Drew Plitt, Reid Sinnett and Will Grier. All but Meyer could've worn #2, #10 or #12 instead.

 

I guess Mike Brown just wasn't very sentimental when it came to Boomer, at least initially.

[New Jersey Bengal]

6 hours ago, KA14_HOF said:

I was initially surprised they issued #14 to Dalton, but by comparison to #7, they were pretty restrained.

 

After Anderson and Dalton, only Jake Luton (2023 rookie camp) has worn it.

 

Once Klingler left, the #7 was used by Joe Germaine, Scott Rislov, Eric Meyer, Jeff Smith, Todd Boeckman, Bruce Gradkowski, Greg McElroy, Matt Linehan, Matt Barkley, Connor Cook, Jake Dolegala, Kevin Hogan, Drew Plitt, Reid Sinnett and Will Grier. All but Meyer could've worn #2, #10 or #12 instead.

 

I guess Mike Brown just wasn't very sentimental when it came to Boomer, at least initially.

This is some Harvard PHd equivalent work As for Michael Weston the Bengals should pay you for this!

[KA14_HOF]

2 hours ago, New Jersey Bengal said:

This is some Harvard PHd equivalent work As for Michael Weston the Bengals should pay you for this!

Ha! If only. I could use the work.

 

Still, I'd kill to have access to any of the Bengals official archives.

[Bleeds Orange]

On 8/6/2024 at 6:06 AM, Le Tigre said:

Even though he finished right behind the guy who wore it previously in all-time passing? 

 

But that's hindsight. They gave the number of a four-time passing champion, MVP-winning, Super Bowl participating, HOF-worthy quarterback to an unproven rookie.

[Le Tigre]

2 hours ago, Bleeds Orange said:

 

But that's hindsight. They gave the number of a four-time passing champion, MVP-winning, Super Bowl participating, HOF-worthy quarterback to an unproven rookie.

Well, they gave it first to Maurice Purify in 2009:

(He lasted 5 games) 

 

[Bleeds Orange]

14 hours ago, Le Tigre said:

Well, they gave it first to Maurice Purify in 2009:

(He lasted 5 games) 

 

 

I did not know that. Even worse. But despite all the praise I heaped on him, perhaps the franchise thought he was no longer worthy of uniform-number-exclusivity after this caper. I'm not even sure I disagree. It sucks when your favorite player pulls some unforgivable shit like this. There is no excuse.

 

[|High School Harry|]

31 minutes ago, Bleeds Orange said:

 

I did not know that. Even worse. But despite all the praise I heaped on him, perhaps the franchise thought he was no longer worthy of uniform-number-exclusivity after this caper. I'm not even sure I disagree. It sucks when your favorite player pulls some unforgivable shit like this. There is no excuse.

 

Add to it...    Willie Anderson the Raven

[claptonrocks]

17 minutes ago, High School Harry said:

Add to it...    Willie Anderson the Raven

No more talk on Trent Brown being overweight.

Brown looks to be in better shape than Willie ever was.

Now if he can play this season like Willie did more many years is the question.

 

[Cricket]

3 hours ago, Bleeds Orange said:

 

I did not know that. Even worse. But despite all the praise I heaped on him, perhaps the franchise thought he was no longer worthy of uniform-number-exclusivity after this caper. I'm not even sure I disagree. It sucks when your favorite player pulls some unforgivable shit like this. There is no excuse.

 

He probably figured that was the only way to keep his head on straight. 🥷

 

[HereSince68]

On 8/6/2024 at 3:01 PM, KA14_HOF said:

 

 

Once Klingler left, the #7 was used by Joe Germaine, Scott Rislov, Eric Meyer, Jeff Smith, Todd Boeckman, Bruce Gradkowski, Greg McElroy, Matt Linehan, Matt Barkley, Connor Cook, Jake Dolegala, Kevin Hogan, Drew Plitt, Reid Sinnett and Will Grier. All but Meyer could've worn #2, #10 or #12 instead.

 

 

Who? 🤔

[Le Tigre]

1 hour ago, Cricket said:

He probably figured that was the only way to keep his head on straight. 🥷

 

I was at that game. Even from the upper red deck at Riverfront, you could see that head twist. 
 

I thought Gary had killed him…he didn’t move for a long while. 

[KA14_HOF]

1 hour ago, HereSince68 said:

Who? 🤔

Lots of guys who participated in training camp but were eventually released without making the opening day roster, or guys who only made the practice squad, or in the cases of Dolegala, Hogan and Sinnett, actually were on the roster, but didn't manage to get into a game. All, though, were issued the #7 jersey.

 

They'll all show up in my QB history thread. Only at 1981 right now, though.

[KA14_HOF]

2 hours ago, Cricket said:

He probably figured that was the only way to keep his head on straight. 🥷

 

 

That was sickening. For a moment, I thought he'd actually broken Kenny's neck. Later in the game, Gary was flagged for a late hit on Turk Schonert. Hey, 2 honest mistakes any scumbag could make.

 

           

 

 

[Le Tigre]

The third photo was exactly the angle I saw it from upstairs (Section 326). 
 

I seriously thought Gary killed him. 

[-GoBengals-]

its tough with so few numbers, say roster settle at 65, there are 100 numbers (or 101?) with 0 and 00(i think) available. so i guess a team could in theory retire 35 numbers for regular season.. but it may get messy with position specific number groups running out, like if you retire 8 linemen numbers youre fucked.

so i think not retiring numbers makes sense. or maybe add extra criteria, like a hall of famer + superbowl winner on your team can be retired? would leave teams with no SB wins with no retired numbers though.

 

 

Now some andy dalton hate and some ken anderson polite slander....

 

Andy dalton is a fucking clown that personally held back a franchise from several playoff wins.

 

and ken anderson is before my time, but lit it up in a non-passing era. if i recall he averaged less than 14 completions per game. and roughly 23 attempts. barely a TD per game, and nearly a 1:1 TD:INT ratio. and 171 yards per game.

 

he stopped playing when i was about 3 years old so i dont have person watching experience to lean on here. but that leads me to not really care about ken anderson... right or wrong, im fine with those who adore him, just not something that went down in my lifetime and its not impressive on paper stats wise. 

 

andy still has never won a playoff game. he is a bum.

 

 

[-GoBengals-]

i think doing a hallf of fame bust statue for ring of honor members would be awesome. put it on display somewhere common in the stadium. 

[Bleeds Orange]

10 hours ago, GoBengals said:

and ken anderson is before my time, but lit it up in a non-passing era. if i recall he averaged less than 14 completions per game. and roughly 23 attempts. barely a TD per game, and nearly a 1:1 TD:INT ratio. and 171 yards per game.

 

he stopped playing when i was about 3 years old so i dont have person watching experience to lean on here. but that leads me to not really care about ken anderson... right or wrong, im fine with those who adore him, just not something that went down in my lifetime and its not impressive on paper stats wise. 

 

 

Yeah, as has been said many times, it's hard to compare players from different eras. They were playing a different game back then. But we can compare them to those who played at the same time, and Anderson was one of the best passers of his era. More physical talent than Hall of Famer Terry Bradshaw, but perhaps without the leadership abilities or swagger that led to winning teams. Then again, ol' Terry had some of the best players in history around him every year and they shot steroids into each other's asses, so. 

 

Ricky Cobb put it this way: