1 minute ago, TigerJ@w said:

My comment was more towards this team not caring to win, then the signing of players. 

Gotcha makes sense

5 minutes ago, stan said:

I agree with claptonrocks.The Bengals won't fire Taylor,with years left on his deal.Remember how long they kept David Shula around?

Good ole Mediocre Marv says Hello.

17 minutes ago, UncleEarl said:

It was more than that.  The Commanders had a great game plan to abuse the Bengals zone defense, and they did.  When the Bengals went man they abused both corners in man to man.  Vonn Bell may know the calls and reads, but can’t cover squat.  
 

Anuromo can game plan the hell out of the Super Bowl champions, but can’t do shit against Washington?

 

I was thinking about this after the last game, let alone this one... I was remembering Joe's off-season quote "we're built to beat the Chiefs".  It honestly feels like they believe they ONLY need to beat the Chiefs, and perhaps that's all they really prepared for.

1 hour ago, Shebengal said:

But who replaces him?

I would say Nick Saban but, he is probably too old. 

12 minutes ago, UncleEarl said:

It was more than that.  The Commanders had a great game plan to abuse the Bengals zone defense, and they did.  When the Bengals went man they abused both corners in man to man.  Vonn Bell may know the calls and reads, but can’t cover squat.  
 

Anuromo can game plan the hell out of the Super Bowl champions, but can’t do shit against Washington?

x1 million.
 

And I’ll add that Geno Stone hasn’t done isht, along with Vonn. And Ossai and Hubbard have truly been hot garbage so far. 

54 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

Next week is now a must win. Or the season is over. 

 

Could the season be ended by the Ginger Water Pistol? 😳 

 

 

We can probably count on Andy for at least one TO but Chuba Hubbard comes in averaging 5.2ypc with a receiving TD on top.  That's a must-start for the fantasy nerds.

27 minutes ago, UncleEarl said:

It was more than that.  The Commanders had a great game plan to abuse the Bengals zone defense, and they did.  When the Bengals went man they abused both corners in man to man.  Vonn Bell may know the calls and reads, but can’t cover squat.  
 

Anuromo can game plan the hell out of the Super Bowl champions, but can’t do shit against Washington?

Maybe the backers and backfield would look better if they didn't have to cover for 3 or 4 seconds

 

Sauce Gardner would look bad back there 

15 minutes ago, HavePityPlease said:

 

I was thinking about this after the last game, let alone this one... I was remembering Joe's off-season quote "we're built to beat the Chiefs".  It honestly feels like they believe they ONLY need to beat the Chiefs, and perhaps that's all they really prepared for.

Their dline is totally banged up and what's left is what we watched.

 Corners can't hang with receivers all day.

Pass rush aside from,Trey is Non Existent 

1 hour ago, Griever said:

C

 

Can he play defensive tackle?

1 hour ago, Griever said:

the vibe of this team is just off

 

Well of the 3 main pillars ... They tagged one who wanted a trade, and refused to extend the other one. 🤔 Oh and their best defensive player also wanted a trade after he felt underpaid. 

12 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

 

Well of the 3 main pillars ... They tagged one who wanted a trade, and refused to extend the other one. 🤔 Oh and their best defensive player also wanted a trade after he felt underpaid. 

 

 

I'm coming around to the idea they should be signing both Tee & Ja'Marr.  I think they could make the money & cap work if they truly wanted to spend it that way instead of expecting a small market team to support their entire lineage indefinitely.

The team has some tough questions to ask itself. I know Pollack gets alot of heat around here, but maybe it's time we start holding some of our defensive coaches accountable? Who has Marrion Hobby developed? Who has Charles Burkes developed? Who has Jordan Kovaks developed?

 

What player have we drafted on the defense that has been a difference maker?

 

I think Lou is a good D Coordinator when he has good players, but he's pretty below average when he has even average ones.

 

I know we were down to 3rd string DTs, but we couldnt even get one stop? One?

They may want to win, but ownership that will never fire anyone = soft.

They've brought in some key free agents, but a front office not insisting the coaches get the most from them = soft.

3 years after Apple needlessly poked the sleeping bear that was the Rams with a stick before giving up the game winner and losing the Super Bowl. 2 years after the Burrowhead nonsense and losing the AFC Championship. After 2 weeks straight of immature, elementary school level trash talk from CTB. Zac finally says "that's not who we are"!  Really? Since when? But Zac can lose every game in any excruciatingly stupid way he wants and there's no danger of any recourse? We suck now, but even when we were better his calls were atrocious at times. Finally establishing the run, he'd kill drives with gadget plays. And why are we always in a very soft zone defense on gotta have a stop to win the game plays? If the opponent needs 7 yards to stay alive, we concede 9. If they need 12 yards to stay alive, we concede 15. It's maddening.

Coaches held to no accountability = soft.

I'd never call an NFL player soft, but the mindset has infected the play on the field. Burrow took a sack on 1st and goal tonight, and it's far from the first time. He is definitely not the problem though. He is still a generational talent at the toughest position in sport, quarterback. And because he is, it feels like something has got to give sooner than later. The world is watching the Bengals now because we have Joe Burrow, and yet we suck more by the minute. It doesn't add up, and I'm not sure how the franchise can continue to evade accountability with excuses and more pollyanna bullshit about "seeing some good things out there, it's not time to panic, some guys are injured, like the direction we're heading..."

 

Anyway, will be interesting to see what happens. I've never seem them in a hole like this with a healthy Joe Burrow.

8 hours ago, Catfish Bob said:

Alright strap on your tinfoil hat because I'm going to take what you said way further.   I think the NFL is licking their chops waiting for the opportunity to move the Bengals, Panthers/Jags or maybe all three and another one to offshore.  I don't think that they were anomalies but I definitely think this franchise is battling  more than meets the eye. 

7 hours ago, TigerJ@w said:

Good ole Mediocre Marv says Hello.

Mike Brown was the GM then, I think Katie and company are more pragmatic.  I think the D coordinator would go first though. 

 

 

It feels like we are in year 2006 of the Carson Burrow experiment.  Our hero comes back from an injury and the offense plays well only to see the defense play like utter crap for 2 years.  So figure 2026 is when Burrow gets his next season ending injury and Ryan Fitzpatrick comes out of retirement.  

 

From goodberry, good question... 🤔 

 

 

Bengals defensive draft picks since 2020 -- How Many Hits?

 

1st - Dax Hill, Myles Murphy

2nd - Cam Taylor-Britt, DJ Turner, Kris Jenkins

3rd - Logan Wilson, Joseph Ossai, Zach Carter, Jordan Battle, McKinnley Jackson 

4th - Akeem Davis-Gaither, Tyler Shelvin, Cam Sample, 

5th - Khalid Kareem, Tycen Anderson, Josh Newton

6th - Cedric Johnson

7th - Markus Bailey, Wyatt Hubert, Jeff Gunter, DJ Ivey, Daijahn Anthony

 

⬆️ 

 

Maybe three?? Not how you can draft after paying your QB and (hopefully) WR1

7 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

 

Well of the 3 main pillars ... They tagged one who wanted a trade, and refused to extend the other one. 🤔 Oh and their best defensive player also wanted a trade after he felt underpaid. 

 

 

If they keep losing they should trade Higgins and hendrickson.  Then resign chase to long term deal.  

 

8 hours ago, stan said:

I agree with claptonrocks.The Bengals won't fire Taylor,with years left on his deal.Remember how long they kept David Shula around?

Anyone who lived through the 90s knows fully well how the Browns operate. Taylor is never getting fired with years on his contract.