Raiders @ Bengals ~ GameDey Thread (W9)

[|High School Harry|]

22 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

Thought he was on the injury report last week?

don't know.

maybe

[|BlackJesus|]

A N N I H I L A T I O N 

 

[|BlackJesus|]

More Trey  D O M I N A N C E 

 

[UncleEarl]

4 hours ago, High School Harry said:

Agree.  I said elsewhere that I never realized his lack of size before.

And I was surprised he even made the team.

 

On the two videos above posted by Uncle Earls and me showing Trayveon getting rick rolled on two plays

I watched, as I always do, The Melancholy Cordell.

On Earl's, not sure what was going on.  Seems to be some confusion and not sure if Cordel blocked the

wrong guy, as he will be blamed for whether it was his man or not but in the second one,

he had his guy pushed 10 yards off the line.

 

It seemed pretty obvious that Volson was taking number 5.  I’m not sure what the hell Williams was doing that play.  He didn’t even chip Brown’s guy.  
 

Bengals need a backup RB badly. 

[-GoBengals-]

On 11/3/2024 at 9:08 AM, T-Dub said:

 

Figure that ship sailed when they opened 0-3.   I don't know where Zac got the idea they could just turn it on later but it doesn't work so well.  They don't have that margin for error. Not sure any teams do, even if they went to a Super Bowl 3 years ago.

 

2 under .500 with road games against winning teams in Baltimore and LA before the bye.  I don't see it happening this year.

 

 

 

also went to AFC championship since then. but dont let me get in the way of your poopoo platter.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 9:50 AM, Griever said:

Can't embed tweets right now for some reason, screenshot it is

 

thats funny, when i pointed this out, everyone said i was dumb and taylor needed fired casue of playcalling or something... 

 

 

 

On 11/3/2024 at 9:51 AM, Griever said:

 

how kelsey conway gets money for what she does is amazing, shes a lazy social media troll who hasnt had an insightful or useful post in her life. i wholeheartedly believe she is just as worthless and annoying in her personal life.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 10:02 AM, T-Dub said:

 

Yes its unfathomable how a guy loaded with red flags would do the exact sort of thing the red flags indicated.  Shocking!

 

was there a different reg flag than smacking that bitch after the game who got in his face?

 

if not, what connectable dots are there between that and oversleeping?

 

like he PROBABLY wont smack another bitch in her face...

 

See last example: Joe mixon as far as i know, didnt punch ANY racist bitches while in cincinnati.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 10:02 AM, tibor75 said:

Tibor's newest nickname

 

Jermaine Carman.  Another worthless draft pick.  Rinse, and repeat.  

 

wow, cool man. thats really insightful, and most importantly, added value to the topic.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 10:02 AM, BlackJesus said:

I don't understand the Burton situation at all. 😡 

 

He's clearly the third best WR on the team. He gets wide open on go routes and stretches the field. I don't give a fuck if he's a head case in the locker room or sleeps in every meeting. Put him out there as we have to win! 

 

well there is a LOT you dont understand im starting to realize. he isnt a head case, he doesnt sleep in meetings, bro how do you just make up fictional scenarios in your head and pretend they are real and comment on them as if they are real to everyone?

 

i am genuinely getting concerned here.

 

he slept through the gameplan WALKTHROUGH the day before the game, and when he woke up he didnt call anyone or say anything. that gets you fired at most jobs. no-call no-show, he got a single game timeout against one of the worst teams in the league.

 

thats accountability. 

 

On 11/3/2024 at 10:04 AM, BlackJesus said:

With Carman the talent was not there. With Burton it is. I think he might even be the second best WR on the team (over Tee) if allowed to play. 

 

This feels like a Zac ego issue. The fans want wins. I don't care about behavior red flags. The Queefs are undefeated and full of criminals. 

 

better than Tee is fucking delusional. he has shown nothing in his career anywhere at any level to even hint he is better than tee higgins. 

 

what the fuckare you talking about.

 

youve lost it my friend, you think zach has an ego issue because he held a dumbass WR who doesnt get the playbook, doesnt ask qiestions, pretends he knows plays then fucks them up, then when he gets past all that, sleeps through a walkthrough..

 

and thats a zach taylor issue for you?

 

what the fuck drugs cause this?

 

On 11/3/2024 at 10:08 AM, T-Dub said:

 

 

Based on what, his 40 time?  There's more to playing WR in the NFL than running go routes.  This is wishful thinking.

 

the ONLY correct thing he said in 6 months on here is the thing you call out?

 

gotta be kidding me.... Burton is clearly the 3rd most skilled WR on the team.  thats not as much a boast of Burton as a knock on the rest. Iosivas is a 3 at best, and we dont have any other WR's worth talking about at all, which is why we are out here playing 3 TE sets and shit.

 

shit man, it was the only thing he said that didnt read like it was written on a bathroom stall in lexington kentucky.

 

 

[-GoBengals-]

On 11/3/2024 at 10:30 AM, tibor75 said:

I hope this team loses every game this year.  What a total shitshow.  

 

Burrow is not a poor man's Brady.  He's an imitation of Marino.  Make Super Bowl in second season - irrelevant the rest of his career.  

 

no one cares that YoU hoPE tHe TeAm lOsES eVEry Game THIs yEAr

 

why is your life like this?

 

On 11/3/2024 at 10:34 AM, T-Dub said:

 

 

Yeah that was all a bit much over a 3rd round WR everyone knew was a fuck-up going ahead and fucking up. 

 

yea, 3rd round WR's arent exactly prized commodities expected to produce.

 

From the same draft:

 

WR RomanWIlson - Steelers - hasnt recorded a stat.

WR Malachi Corley for the jets, drafted well above Burto,n has 1 catch for 4 yards

WR jalen McMillan has 10 catches for 109 yards 1 TD

WR Luke Mcaffery has 12 cathes for 111 tards. 

 

Burton has 2 catches for 88 yards...

 

so everyone in here all puffy chested and real mad over *adjusts glasses* 23 yards short of the best 3rd round pick production in the draft.

 

............. in a brief check of the previous year, the most production for the completed season for 2023 3rd round WR's was 411 yards and 3 TD.

 

i have no idea what yall are flicking your man beans over here.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 10:34 AM, tibor75 said:

 

yeah, I didn't mean it that way.  

 

But after the Super Bowl year, the only thing Marino did that anybody remembers is giving the Bears their only loss in 1986.  Empty statistics.  

 

yea winning championships is hard. the most success QB in nfl history with the most successful coach in nfl history, both alleged to be the goats of their professions, won 6-7 championsips in 20+ years. so even the combo of the bests ever failed 60% of the time.

 

almost 15% of the leagues teams have never even MADE the superbowl ...

 

but eveyone here is a loser becasue we are having a rough season getting people healthy with any consistency.

 

logical. realistic. rational. factual.

 

love to see it.

 

[-GoBengals-]

On 11/3/2024 at 10:44 AM, Jamie_B said:

 

Wild how much Jerry Jones hates Mike Brown, yet both are similar in how set in their ways they are.

 

lol, they are the same by one of them meddling in everything everyday, going on the radio and trashing host for not asking him fluff questions, going to the media daily, and overpaying mediocre players for 25 years?

 

that is the SAME as mike brown, whose involvment for the last 10 years includes putting on his short sleeved dress shirt and watching the game from the box and having no part in the business what so ever other than watching and loving his team and city?

 

those are the same?

 

im going to need more information.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 10:53 AM, High School Harry said:

This isn't a football team, its a soap opera.

 

it is in fact a football team.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:06 AM, T-Dub said:

 

Y'know..  Burton wouldn't even be much of a story if they didn't already pencil him in as WR2 next year

 

...With both their All-Pro starting WR's miffed about contracts

 

...and I guess sitting out of practices at their leisure

 

...before starting the season 0-3

 

how exactly was he pencilled in as the #2 next year? was it when he was third string all camp and preseason? was it his inactives to kick off the year?

 

what are you talking about?

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:09 AM, BlackJesus said:

Mistake for the Bengals not to take the ball first. 

 

You know your defense is trash and that the Raiders are good at scoring first. 

 

for fucks sake.

 

the raiders score consistently regardless of if they get the ball first, their first drives are successful, not because they got the ball

 

and the fucking defense has to play regardless of if its first or second drive.

 

 

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:10 AM, BlackJesus said:

This DL is soft as fuck. Pathetic. 

 

which part was the softest? was is the 60 rushing yards they gave up the whole game or the most successful pressure numbers of the entire season?

 

which one specifically is the softest to you.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:11 AM, BlackJesus said:

Boo birds are already out. 

 

Worst defense in the NFL.

 

8th worst in PPG technically.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:12 AM, Arkansas Bengal said:

There goes our shut out

 

lolol, i say that to my kid everytime the other teams scores first and early. and sometimes at basketball games. 

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:12 AM, claptonrocks said:

We score last before half and get the ball to start 2nd.

Hopefully it works

 

waoh dont be letting billionaires data and strategy get in the way of a good bj rant of babble.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:12 AM, sois said:

They couldn't do the Saban style punishment and bench him for the first drive or quarter? Zac is punishing the while team, not Burton.

 

the raiders fucking suck, it was the safe move that proved a point. if they let him play and he dropped a pass or fucked up a play (like iosivas did for the pick 6) this whole place would be calling taylor names and yelling for not holding him accountable.

[-GoBengals-]

On 11/3/2024 at 11:15 AM, T-Dub said:

 

I mean.. it is a little weird when they were letting Ja'Marr & Tee show up if & when they felt like it coming out of camp.

 

its called the CBA, and its negotiation and rules set like everyonr 5-10 years, it has nothing to do with the organization, or coaches, what. so. ever.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:15 AM, BlackJesus said:

Lou has gone from a Wizard (with Jessie Bates) to the head Jester at a Clown College. 🤡

 

It is sad, as I liked his personality and he seems like a good dude. But his defense isn't working anymore. 

 

crazy what having way worse palyers available will do.

 

but the defense had an incredible game.

 

and you posted this because they gave up a single scoring drive..

 

they gave up 17 points in this game....

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:16 AM, claptonrocks said:

JB and Co gotta show out 

 

 

and that they did.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:17 AM, BlackJesus said:

We have to pass the entire game pretty much ... but only have 4 WR.

 

Should have played Burton. 

 

lol

 

none of this is true. thats fun.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:18 AM, BlackJesus said:

A loss today pretty much mathematically eliminates the Bengals 

 

Better figure this the fuck out. 

 

none of this is true either.

 

lololol

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:18 AM, HavePityPlease said:

 

To me this is the "real" problem, different rules for stars vs everyone else.  It's fair to argue "that's just modern sports" but when it's so glaring and not managed well it snowballs into a serious locker room chemistry problem IMO.

 

nope, same rules for everyone, stated by the NFLPA in the CBA with the teams. every team and player, same rules. 

 

why make stuff up?

 

what do YOU personally get out of making stuff up?

 

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:22 AM, High School Harry said:

OMG Burton sighting

 

sighted in that same hoodie at the casino playing them loose loose slots...

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:23 AM, HavePityPlease said:

Ok, trying to claim Ja'Marr isn't a complete receiver because "can't block" is kinda pathetic.  He's a great blocker, he just had a less than great play.

 

agreed.

 

he was in a bitchy ass mood this game though.. bad body language and dropped a pass or two that were critical. i dont think he likes being the decoy after so much time he gets pissy... i could be wrong.. just how it felt watching his mood seem to slump as the team cranked it up.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:23 AM, Jamie_B said:

1-6 without Tee, and you have Burton who is a headcase

 

WR with the number 1 pick is not going to be out of the question this offseason

 

it is 100% out of the question. how many teams have 2x #1 caliber WR's? 2? 3? its not a thing you gotta have. KC never had it ever, got a gang of rings, patriots just picked white guys in the 5th round and got more rings than fingers. 

 

there is below a 0% change we pick a WR.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:24 AM, claptonrocks said:

Tanner Hudson in the house!!!

First and goal

 

in the house, and finally out of the dog house.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:25 AM, claptonrocks said:

Keep pounding Brown.

 

 

lol

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:26 AM, BlackJesus said:

Right call to go for it on 4th down. 

 

Zac showing some balls as he knows the season is on the line. 

 

we go for it on 4th down all the fucking time.

 

why do you just lie to make a fake point? theyve gone for it 7 times in 9 games. 

 

and converted more than half of them.

 

 

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:26 AM, Arkansas Bengal said:

I don’t blame them for going for it on fourth down. Money Mac hasn’t been money this year.

 

had 2 missed a felt sketched out by, then the bad hold, then one barely missed and was 55 or 57 yards which is just how it goes sometimes.

 

not a single kicker is perfect this year, couple guys with 5/6 misses, 6 guys with 4 like McPherson, so he IS in the top 25% of the league in misses. if you take the bad hold off his plate, 3 misses would be top 50%. hopefully he can finish the season with some consistency.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:27 AM, High School Harry said:

and maybe his job

 

lmfao. his job has 0% risk. maybe negative % chance of being lost. if he said he quick theyd try to talkhim out of it.

 

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:29 AM, sois said:

It's a good thing Burrow is HOF quality

 

he's pretty damn good, what was he 15/15 or something at one point?

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:29 AM, sois said:

Or else I would kill myself

 

we loved through the dalton years. can live through anything.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:31 AM, T-Dub said:

Really making me question why he's been splitting time with Moss..

 

Gotta be Volson's fault 

 

technically browns fault, brown cant block and isnt likely built to hold up being a 25+ carry back, considering he is on the injury report for getting too bruised up in this game.

 

but with moss having to be on volsond pocket, if volson COULD block brown would get more snaps.. so your joke is probably technically correct.

 

ask Joe. he knows. 

 

 

 

[-GoBengals-]

On 11/3/2024 at 11:37 AM, Kingspoint said:

22 games (if we expect to get to the Super Bowl) and 600+ touches by our backs.  It's necessary these days.

 

hell yeah, logic in this mf. i like it.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:38 AM, claptonrocks said:

Bowers is really good

 

he is pretty good, 

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:40 AM, claptonrocks said:

When have we ever stopped a good one?

I'll wait

 

the wait is over.

 

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:43 AM, Jamie_B said:

They are pretty much going to Bowers again and again and again. Can we put an extra body on him?

 

no. you can change the package, but ther eis certainly no "use 2 guys in man coverage to cover the TE" packages or sets.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:45 AM, High School Harry said:

Come on Joe.  We need to win by 8.

At least 

 

lol

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:45 AM, BlackJesus said:

Nice play by Battle to break up Bowers. 

 

Battle should have been starting all year. One of many Lou mistakes. 

 

ah yea it was lous mistake that Battle showed up unprepared.  FUCKING LOU!!!!11111

 

for as wildly and outlandishly opinionated as you are, youd think youd watch the very few interviews the staff gives, they typically get asked and explain these things.

 

but i guess it works for whatever psychotic agenda you have to make up scenarios that dont exist so you can post like they do...

 

hows that going by the way? is that going good?

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:45 AM, T-Dub said:

Battle can play, not sure why he's barely getting on the field

 

Lou said he was unprepared, seems his head wasnt in the palybook in the offseason he came in not knowing it perfectly (like burton but he isnt a rookie) i dont recall if he was also slightly out of shape as well, it was a month or two ago he did the interview.

 

[-GoBengals-]

On 11/3/2024 at 11:52 AM, High School Harry said:

getting too predictable... be careful

 

id love to know what part of the game this was..

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:53 AM, Kingspoint said:

Everyone could see 3 games ago that Brown was taking over.  There's no question anymore who will be the bell-cow.

 

lost me.  he isnt built for that. he is an accent back. got too banged up in this game. sadly williams played like dog shit so we are making some calls, Hopefully moss isnt done for the season.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:53 AM, BlackJesus said:

If Erick All is lost as well ... this offense is really lacking weapons. 

 

They are going to be triple covering Ja'Marr soon. 

 

lol what.

 

 

 

On 11/3/2024 at 11:55 AM, BlackJesus said:

Cody Ford is holding up nicely on the left side. Pleasantly surprised.  

 

 

 

well snowden fucking sucks. he is the 70th rated DE, there are 64 starting DE's

 

he is the volson of DE's.

 

 

[-GoBengals-]

On 11/3/2024 at 12:07 PM, T-Dub said:

 

 

Pretty sure it's been Rehkow gumming up the works that's mostly to blame

 

1 of the misses for sure, been some iffy snaps as well. 

 

On 11/3/2024 at 12:07 PM, Jamie_B said:

Jackson/Jenkins the rookies played really well on that

 

run stopping by them has been really promising, pass rush has been average and occasionally above average, wouldnt HATE a pressure DT in the draft, we can walk away from rankins this offseason if we wish.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 12:09 PM, BlackJesus said:

Jackson & Jenkins both collapsed the pocket and we looked like a real DL for once on that sack. 😲 

 

but wait, when the starters were out and these guys were hurt.. Lou needed to be fired.....remember?

 

tell me more about how that works.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 12:11 PM, T-Dub said:

 

Need at least one of them to show out.  If they both can play that'd be a big relief as far as needs go for next year.

 

both are great prospects with great pedigree, hoping for the best out of them.

 

[-GoBengals-]

On 11/3/2024 at 12:22 PM, BlackJesus said:

Burton is on the sideline congratulating Yoshi ... But should be in uniform. 

 

no he shouldnt, why would he be? he dropped the ball and let the team, coaches and teammates down? why would he be in uniform?

 

On 11/3/2024 at 12:22 PM, claptonrocks said:

Beastly in the RedZone 

 

and thats about it...  which is fine.. but im not sure he is even a #3 on a good WR team.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 12:24 PM, Jamie_B said:

 

It will be interesting to hear what is said about him post-game. I'm not in favor of rewarding guys for bad behavior. We did that with Marvin and eventually, everything fell apart. Nip this in the bud now against a bad Raiders team and see if Burton gets the message. We need all hands on deck Thursday.

 

yea thats not what happened.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 12:24 PM, BlackJesus said:

I swear if our shit defense allows a TD in 30 seconds ... 

 

wtf are you talking about?

 

they didnt give up 3 TD's the whole fucking game.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 12:27 PM, Jamie_B said:

ADG is playing well as well. This idea that we don't have good LBs is nonsense. Everything else around the D needs work but the LBs are fine.

 

he is such a fringe guy, he can be the worst LB and get it done, makes smart plays, does his job, coaches love him, when he is even a little banged up, he slips to mediocre quick. which can be said about a lot of guys.. 

 

On 11/3/2024 at 12:28 PM, T-Dub said:

 

Ideally he learns from it and goes on to have a great NFL career.  He's 23 years old and just got handed a million dollar signing bonus.  In all fairness I can't imagine how stupid I would've gone with that in my pocket at his age.

 

What they can't do is let the locker room think there are different rules for the stars.  Marvin talked about that when he got here but never really had the authority to fix it.

 

no one thinks there are different rules?

 

what different rules?

 

what are you talking about and why have you said it like 5 times?

 

what is going on.

 

just make another volson joke post or something.. at least those are accidentally correct.

 

absolutely no one is being treated with any favortism.

 

no one. anywhere on the team, not a single person.

 

what is going on?

 

 

On 11/3/2024 at 12:30 PM, Kingspoint said:

I'll take a 7-pt halftime lead, especially with us getting the ball to start the 2nd Half.

 

woah dont let BJ see this, he said it was a HUGE MISTAKE to kick the ball first, he even put it in bold and stuff.. thats how you know he means business.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 12:31 PM, Kingspoint said:

Watch out for tight-asshole Zac in the 2nd Half.  Run-run-run-punt.

 

this has never happened ever..

 

On 11/3/2024 at 12:32 PM, Jamie_B said:

 

It's been said on this board.

 

It's matchup problems, the last time we were good at coving TEs was when the oversized Trey Flowers was here and was basically a specialist at doing that. But Flowers was a CB.

 

flowers did a solid job in that, but we also had like 4 good DB's around him and good linebacker play... which we have almost none of these days. Dax Hill should be a WAY better flowers in that role if healthy.

 

[-GoBengals-]

On 11/3/2024 at 12:55 PM, Kingspoint said:

I've yet to see Zac Taylor NOT GO INTO "play not to lose mode" when up by 14 this season.

 

so i mean bad oline with 2 starters went down and a terrible LG, and a slew of WR roatating issues, not really in a place to be a smart move to be gunslinging with a lead.

 

like the pick 6 with one of our mediocre WR blowing a block assignment giving up a pick 6.

 

that kinda thing.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 12:55 PM, HavePityPlease said:

The way Raiders players keep coming up hurt you'd think our team is some kind of goon squad

 

no Bj said they were soft as fuck and sucked, he put it in bold so i know it was true...

 

On 11/3/2024 at 12:55 PM, Jungletiger said:

At least we are winning.  I hope this is the turn around, and hope some of the trade rumors are true and work out.

 

would be nice, its SO HARD to pull off mid season trades, so few suiters with assets you need for a value you want and are willing to deal with you, gotta think bottom feeder NFC teams are likely candidates, panthers, saints, giants. 

 

On 11/3/2024 at 1:06 PM, BlackJesus said:

4 TDs ... It's Joevember

 

i dunno seems like bad playcalling or whatwever you keep saying.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 1:16 PM, HavePityPlease said:

Jeezus Volson you have two gaps

 

the way he blocks im pretty sure he has 3 

 

On 11/3/2024 at 1:16 PM, KA14_HOF said:

Volson just blocked air and let #41 get right in on Joe, blowing up any chance of converting. SMH

 

he sucks. in case i have not mentioned it to this point.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 1:20 PM, High School Harry said:

Looks like a Marvin Lewis coached team.

 

well he isnt the coach in any way so thats wierd.

 

looks like a team with terrible players.

 

dont worry they fired a bunch of coaches for not making terrible players be good.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 1:21 PM, Kingspoint said:

Glad to see Irwin playing after that hit.

 

he got ROCKED.

 

On 11/3/2024 at 1:24 PM, Jamie_B said:

Treyvon Willams is not good

 

he had a terrible game.. i cant imagine he will be back next year unless something bad happens roster wise.

[HavePityPlease]

6 hours ago, GoBengals said:

 

nope, same rules for everyone, stated by the NFLPA in the CBA with the teams. every team and player, same rules. 

 

why make stuff up?

 

what do YOU personally get out of making stuff up?

 

I was talking about team rules, but I'm pretty sure you knew that.

[T-Dub]

Burton was slated to be the replacement for Higgins next year.  With Higgins out Sunday, Burton was supposed to be featured.  Think it's clear Burton is intended to be his replacement, or at least was intended.

 

Higgins and Chase both sat out a lot of practices while healthy, seemingly at their discretion.  I think it's possible that an undisciplined rookie might see that and get the wrong idea.

[Randle P McMurphy]

13 hours ago, GoBengals said:

which part was the softest? was is the 60 rushing yards they gave up the whole game or the most successful pressure numbers of the entire season?

 

which one specifically is the softest to you.

 

The Raiders are 32nd, (DEAD LAST), in rushing yards per game and were down to their 3rd string LT by halftime so it took a 

"worst case scenario," from our opponent for the Bengals to have their most successful pressure numbers of the entire season!  

 

 

 

 

 

[UncleEarl]

2 hours ago, T-Dub said:

Burton was slated to be the replacement for Higgins next year.  With Higgins out Sunday, Burton was supposed to be featured.  Think it's clear Burton is intended to be his replacement, or at least was intended.

 

Higgins and Chase both sat out a lot of practices while healthy, seemingly at their discretion.  I think it's possible that an undisciplined rookie might see that and get the wrong idea.

 

If he doesn't know the difference between a "star" sitting out practice and a rookie  not showing up at all, he's got some serious issues.

[Griever]

[T-Dub]

20 hours ago, UncleEarl said:

 

If he doesn't know the difference between a "star" sitting out practice and a rookie  not showing up at all, he's got some serious issues.

 

Consider the possibility that he does, in fact, got some serious issues.  That is why he was still on the board in the 3rd round, and no-showed a walkthrough the day before what should have been his breakout game. The thing he's seemingly worked half his life for, worth potentially tens of millions, his opportunity to step onto the NFL stage.. and he can't set an alarm?

 

Sounds like some issues to me, IDK.

[claptonrocks]

2 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

Consider the possibility that he does, in fact, got some serious issues.  That is why he was still on the board in the 3rd round, and no-showed a walkthrough the day before what should have been his breakout game. The thing he's seemingly worked half his life for, worth potentially tens of millions, his opportunity to step onto the NFL stage.. and he can't set an alarm?

 

Sounds like some issues to me, IDK.

Does he have issues?

Most certainly...

He's very immature and hopefully he grows into a vital part of the offense.

It's up to him.

[T-Dub]

41 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

Does he have issues?

Most certainly...

He's very immature and hopefully he grows into a vital part of the offense.

It's up to him.

 

Like I said before, he's a really young dude that's probably used to being treated a certain way for his athletic ability.  Now he's a pro athlete where that ability only gets you in the door.  He just got handed a million dollar check.  For some guys (eg., Jackson Carman perhaps) that's the finish line & they're happy with that.

 

As a newly-minted 23 year old millionaire obviously there's going to be some growing pains.  Up to him, as you said.

 

The issue for me isn't him at all but rather this idea that we can just draft a replacement for an All-Pro caliber receiver and everything will be smooth sailing.  Even for a 1st round blue chip prospect that's not guaranteed, for a dude that should've been a first rounder but dropped into the 3rd because of known character concerns, it's more like wishful thinking. 

 

In other words, as far as the needs of Bengals football, it's not really Burton that's to blame here.

[New Jersey Bengal]

31 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

Like I said before, he's a really young dude that's probably used to being treated a certain way for his athletic ability.  Now he's a pro athlete where that ability only gets you in the door.  He just got handed a million dollar check.  For some guys (eg., Jackson Carman perhaps) that's the finish line & they're happy with that.

 

As a newly-minted 23 year old millionaire obviously there's going to be some growing pains.  Up to him, as you said.

 

The issue for me isn't him at all but rather this idea that we can just draft a replacement for an All-Pro caliber receiver and everything will be smooth sailing.  Even for a 1st round blue chip prospect that's not guaranteed, for a dude that should've been a first rounder but dropped into the 3rd because of known character concerns, it's more like wishful thinking. 

 

In other words, as far as the needs of Bengals football, it's not really Burton that's to blame here.

I do hope he straightens out though

[T-Dub]

1 minute ago, New Jersey Bengal said:

I do hope he straightens out though

 

Absolutely, me too.  He screwed up and it cost him, hopefully he learns from it.