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Cleveland knew he was a creep but chose to overlook it. I hope that decision continues to haunt them for years to come.

This thread is goofy. I guess some of y'all are newer here but if you see a post from @soisyou should automatically assume you're being trolled. 😆 No offense, I am amused.

When a returning coach gets fired early in a season, it shows the owner probably thought he should have made the move at the end of the prior season. I doubt the flag badge had anything to do with the firing, if he'd won the game he would still be the coach.

Maybe Watson is the father?

As one of my friends mentioned, if the Bengals’ offense was playing against the Bengals’ defense each week, we’d be putting up over 60 points a game. 🤨

Natural Selection perhaps?

In Cleveland and Pittsburgh? It’s common.

Let’s pervert some little kid’s brain with this depravity. Is this natural?

and Kayvon Thibodeaux being out for the NYG is a bonus too. Giants still strong up front but he can bring it on the pass rush.

Watson is one of the strangest cases I can think of as far as a promising QB ending up as a total bust/failure. I use the term despite him likely reaching around $300 million in career earnings. His first 4 seasons put him on a trajectory to be an MVP candidate. He made the playoffs twice and was a legitimate dual threat QB. Then everything began to unravel. He demanded a trade, sat out an entire season, was traded, was given the richest contract of all time, and then was sued dozens of times for sexual improprieties. A suspension followed and the combination of rust and injury has turned Watson into an albatross that neither he nor the Browns can escape from. Nobody deserves sympathy less than him, except possibly Cleveland for rewarding and enabling him. I still find it somewhat shocking to see him play so poorly after what he did in college and early in his NFL career.

Yeah, the NFL has no power to compel the cooperation of the woman. The local police didn't file charges in her case so the league can't get info that way. They can ask Watson what's in the settlement but if he's smart his attorney has the document. Meanwhile Cleveland still has to pay him, though not play him. If they release him, all the guaranteed money accelerates to the year he's cut (or half of it if after June 1). They can't afford that so they can't even just tell him to stay away while they send him checks. It will be misery for them for a couple more years.

Why does it matter if he wants to play? If he is on the 53 and they are paying him his salary, can’t they tell him to stay away?? Only 48 are active on game day.

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Too early in the season. That would be sign of throwing in the towel. I don't think anyone is ready to just give up yet after 5 games. Not every team has Lamar Jackson. So if they continue to play as well as they did we are going to win a lot more games over the remainder of the season. I think this is the first game where they really started to click on offense. Now its off to the races.

Who came to this thread hoping to see some cock juggling? No Diddy!

If Watson doesn't mind, they can send him off on vacation. But if Watson wants to play, the team has limited options. They can suspend him no more than 4 games for conduct detrimental to the team. And even that can be challenged in a grievance which the team would probably lose. The part I forgot is that they have restructured his contract a couple times to push money down the road. Thus his 73 mil cap hit for 2025. But it's only about 80 mil if they cut him with the post-June 1 designation. Then another 80 mil in 2026. So, if at the end of this season, they have abandoned all hope of turning him around, cutting him becomes thinkable.

Past two years we have 3. We need at least two more imo. And that's assuming Murphy Jenkins and Jackson all work out. (Still need another 3 Tech that is good at pass rush, since Jenkins is more a run stopper type, another DE to complement Muphy as well)

OL is playing well and just like magic, Burrow and Co is killing it. Gee Zac, only took 4 years. Now focus in the g*d damn DL - yes I know we had 2 higher picks this past drfat but keep that coming.

Offense against pressure

Is that the offense or what the defense is allowing?

The Cleveland Father of the Year 2024. And... let me put it this way... "King of the Hill"... Dale Gribble and his son, Joseph...

Never feel sorry for the Browns.

And all of the fans that thought he was a saviour knew he was a creep and defended him and were willing to overlook it. Then the CFT did baker wrong (not that I like baker). They deserve it too!

Maybe….but Aaron Rodgers.

for sure early, but last week they played a lot better. Granted, the Stealers aren’t gonna strike the fear out of (most) teams defensively, but the Dallas D was short-handed a lot, and they still stepped up in Pitt. Detroit and SF coming up will be telling. After that, their two best defensive players, Parsons and Lawrence, as well as a starting CB (DaRon Bland) should be back and that’ll help. And the good thing for Dallas is that they have some athletic young guys who may be short on experience, but they still made plays in starters’ absence. Which is more than you can say for the Bengals’ backups.

And struggling there

At some point they have to play Winston. As much as I dislike the Clowns, they can’t keep trotting this guy out and expect their fans to be ok with it. Also, can’t they send him home but pay him and keep him on the roster? Not sure what the rule is.

Salah wears a Lebanese flag on his shirt and….a few hours later…..fired. Woody Johnson, I’m sure has zero connections to Blackock and Vanguard; nope, none at all. Who fires a coach at 2-3? Woody Johnson had NEVER fired a coach in season before. Until Salah.

He had his best statistics in 2020 after Hopkins left so I don’t think that’s a valid point. The team went 4-12 but Watson set career highs in completion percentage, yards, and TDs while throwing the fewest interceptions. He’s only played in 17 games since 2020.

Not sure why this has not been posted yet but a big plus for us. Was waiting for the Giants week thread and will probably repost there... Both listed as FP, Full Practice

I actually dont think it's that strange. First I think he is somewhat of a product of Hopkins being his WR. When Hopkins left Watson's numbers went down. But more than that I think if you look players, especially at the QB position, guys that are out for more than 1 year consecutively do not do well coming back. Watson sat out a year in Hou then was suspended for almost another one his first year in Cle. Recipe for not being successful right there.

They sold their souls to the devil so this is their payback

I want to see the 230lb RB in there. Guy had impressive tape from Georgia.

I read where 45% of his passes to Amari Cooper have been uncatchable.