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Think I saw where Kent Lee Platt - the guy doing all of the RAS stuff - said it just breaks down for true NT. The formulas just break down for them since they are lumped in with all DTs.

Having dived deeper to the draft thing than ever before via a million articles and podcasts, I think the Bengals went BPA from the 5th round round...so the final half of the picks. The first 2 rounds were always going to be for Big Bodies in the trenches, one on each side of the ball. I believe their realistic Plan A targets in the 1st round was Latham and Murphy. Latham never made it even close to pick 18 and Murphy went right where he himself thought he would go...to Seattle at 16. I think the top Plan B targets in the first were Fuaga and Mims. We may never know which one they would've taken if both had been available, of course only Mims was. Once the OT was taken in the 1st round, then it was always going to be a DT in the 2nd round. Many of them went off the board early, most of them undersized 3Ts with promising pass rushing traits even if the college production was somewhat lacking. Jonny Newton never had a chance to reach the Bengals pick at 49, but I'm wondering if Anarumo thought Sweat might make it to the pick. Would the Bengals have taken Sweat if he had been available at 49? Considering that the Bengals felt they had no choice but to take Jackson at 97, I'm guessing they probably would have. We know that they really liked Sweat, had him in for a Top 30 visit. But once Sweat was off the board, then they became hyper-focused on Jenkins, who is a great run stopper in a 3T body. So of course they were relieved when Jenkins fell to them at 49. I believe the Bengals were planning to go WR in round 3 all along. Seems pretty obvious that both Troy Walters and Dan Pitcher loved Burton's tape. They even seemed to make sure that particular Top 30 visit didn't leak out. Once they became fixated on Burton's tape, then the deep background check happened. Once they decided they could live with his profile, he became a big focus for round 3. Even though there was a big run on WRs in round 2, only 2 were taken before the Bengals pick at 80 in round 3. Even though the Bengals beat writers were caught off guard by the pick, everything seems to indicate Burton was the big receiver focus all along. So they took their guy exactly when they planned to. I think Burton will be the game one starter with Chase/Higgins in September. James Casey is one of the most respected position coaches on the team, but they had failed to give him even one rookie TE to develop in quite a few years. Casey was the one who settled on Sam Laporta as the best TE in the deep '23 class, even though two or three others were rated ahead of Laporta by most evaluators leading up the draft. Still early, but it looks like none will end up being better than Laporta. This year Bowers was easily the top TE in the class, and there was no consensus on who the next best TE was. Casey knew he wasn't likely to finally get a TE to develop until the 4th or 5th round, but it seems like Erick All was his TE2 because of his versatile skill set. Once the doctors okayed the medicals, then All became a mid round target just behind Burton in terms of adding weapons for Burrow.

Congrats @sparky151, even though I lost by tie breaker, the team getting Mims is enough of a win for me. 😁

LOL. that was weird. They hook up to remotes world wide without a hitch and Tomlin had no audio on the first attempt either. 😆

An added bonus of getting Mims was stealing him from the Squeelers ...

Gotta say it and know I will get flamed and trashed to Hell and back... On these days of the 2024 draft, I would much rather see Joe Burrow involved with the incoming rookies than hanging around with the jack off trash of the NFL. And Machine Gun Kelly, Trippy Red (who I never heard of) and someone should tell Joe his bud, Kid Cuddly (whatever) cancelled his Cincinnati concert. Please don't tell me Joe is trying to recruit this fuck wit cancer. I would much rather see in eating cheese coneys with Mims.

Shelby Dermer, Cincinnati Enquirer Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 9:21 PM CDT·3 min read The Cincinnati Bengals 2024 draft class is set. The Bengals opened the draft on Thursday with the selection of Georgia offensive tackle Amarius Mims 18th overall, then finished the event Saturday with six picks. How well did the Bengals do? Here's what the national pundits think about the Bengals latest draft haul. Cincinnati Bengals 2024 draft grades Pro Football Focus: B+ USA Today: B Sports Illustrated: B- Pro Football Network: B- Sporting News: A The Score: B Grade breakdown: There's a general consensus surrounding the Bengals' draft as an overall boom-or-bust class. Whether it be from injuries or off-the-field concerns, Cincinnati picked multiple prospects that could be long-term producers for a franchise with Super Bowl aspirations or could not fail to pan out. Amarius Mims joins the Bengals, speaking at a press conference at Paycor Stadium on Friday April 26, 2024. It started right away with the first-round selection of Mims at No. 18. Mims fits into a Bengals' group of tackles that rivals some college basketball frontcourts with its height. Mims was borderline elite at Georgia in pass protection (six quarterback pressures in 402 pass-blocking snaps), but the best ability is availability and he only has eight college starts under his belt after needing season-ending ankle surgery in 2023. Some experts liked that Mims won't have to start right away and has a year to develop behind veteran Trent Brown, who inked a one-year deal in March. Others question if Cincinnati should've drafted someone who could help right away on a team in win-now mode. The Cincinnati Bengals drafted Alabama wide receiver Jermaine Burton in the third round of the draft. The Bengals added three pass-catchers in the draft. All were picked with some precaution of national pundits. There's an overall belief that third-round pick Jermaine Burton could be a franchise-changing wide receiver as an over-the-top threat if he can shed the maturity question marks that caused him to fall to the 80th overall pick. "The best value pick of the draft," Pro Football Network's Cam Mellor said of the pick. "(Burton) enters the league with some character issues but immense production upside with his explosive vertical skill set." At the tight end spot, Iowa's Erick All, a Fairfield High School product, is coming off a torn ACL a year after needing spinal surgery. Arizona's Tanner McLachlan needed core muscle surgery after his pro day and slid into the sixth round. 'You ready to come home?': Fairfield's Erick All gets call from Bengals' Zac Taylor Feb 29, 2024; Indianapolis, IN, USA; Michigan defensive lineman Kris Jenkins (DL13) works out during the 2024 NFL Combine at Lucas Oil Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports Which pick did experts like? The Bengals ultimately didn't trade up in the second round despite a run on defensive tackles and eventually landed with Michigan product Kris Jenkins with the 49th overall pick. Jenkins, a team captain on the national-champion Wolverines in 2023, is the son of Kris Jenkins Sr., a three-time All-Pro defensive tackle. "He has a P.H.D. in playing defensive tackle from his father," NFL Network Analyst Daniel Jeremiah said Friday after the pick. Pro Football Focus called Jenkins the "pound-for-pound the strongest player in the draft," who excelled against the run last season. That's a good sign for a defensive line that lost D.J. Reader and is in a division with Derrick Henry, Nick Chubb and Najee Harris. On the offensive trenches, draft analysts liked the Bengals seventh-round snag of Miami center Matt Lee, who didn't allow a sack on over 400 pass-blocking snaps last season. Feb 29, 2024; Indianapolis, IN, USA; Texas A&M defensive lineman McKinnley Jackson (DL11) works out during the 2024 NFL Combine at Lucas Oil Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports Which pick did experts dislike? Multiple pundits agree the Bengals reached with their third-round compensatory selection of Texas A&M defensive tackle McKinnley Jackson. "Jackson feels like a reach at this point given his inconsistent play," USA Today's Michael Middlehurst-Schwartz said of the pick Friday night. NFL.com ranks Jackson as the No. 22 defensive tackle in this year's class. Draft Analyst Lance Zierlein projected Jackson to be a sixth-round pick as a prospect who has solid strength overall but needs to develop his hands to shed blockers more efficiently. https://sports.yahoo.com/well-did-bengals-draft-heres-022106666.html

He weighed 288 at the East-West Shrine game and then bulked up to 301 for the combine. I'm sure teams were assuming he was too small for what they want.

There are two things I see as a "theme" 1. Guys that came in for their 30 visit 2. Big Swing on picks, meaning a few guys have boom or bust potential. Seems like this draft will be talked about how good it is or how we can't draft in a couple of years. Not a lot of in the middle Now we wait and see on these guys.

The guy with the back injury was TE Erick All, but the medical reports on that are considered excellent. It's the ACL surgery that he's recovering from now. He had the surgery in October, so he might not be cleared to practice by the start of training camp. I definitely don't think it has to be a redshirt year for All, as speculated above. He may be a big contributor to the offense by the second half of the season.

Because everyone goes from unknown to Superman once drafted. These online draft experts can always come up with their “secret grades”. Been watching some other teams’ fan sites. Amazing how amazing each pick is “rated”. My time-honored expression: Everyone Wins On Draft Day.

Psycho...lol I wouldn't sign off on back injuries. Seems their was one we drafted that had Major surgery can't recall but I'd have passed on him. Bengals know more about their health than I do so lets go with this group and see who pans out.

TBH…his best strength at UM was slot defender anyway. Always thought he was a reach at FS

Love the McNamara signing

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Burton and McLaughlan were steals

I think at this point with them drafting two tight ends and having Sample and Hudson on the roster as well - I would consider Gesicki more of an offensive weapon or receiver at this point. He’s not going to be lining up with his hand in the dirt much at all, if he does ever.

Why was he still available? Reading all of this praise, you’d think he would have gone in the top 100.

That's my point. You can start at a small school, but only scrubs mostly now end their college career at one.

I do like that they all come from big programs. Not a fan of small school players in the age of the transfer portal.

Coach-speak for “Yes he’s likely a psycho, but with medication, we hope to reduce his bad days.”

After reading the “home runs/doubles” theories in the threads, it did dawn on me that they may actually be doing that for the first time I can recall. Baseball comparisons can be done: if a player hits .300 and gets on base frequently, he goes farther than .250 hitter who doesn’t. And either way, it means that 70% of the time they fail to hit safely. It is apparent that they are going to the 3-out-of-10 approach for both FA and draft. Get 3 who can actually play at NFL level, and accept that the other 7 will bomb. Of course, those 3 should be at critical areas such as offensive/defensive lines—and the 7 likely will include psycho wide receivers and major injury recovering types.

That long neck reminds me of Michael Johnson, Bengals DE from several years back.

This plus some LBs

Was coming in to post this. What a frustrating pick

Higher rated than JPJ ! 😲

Calling it now: no interior OL was a mistake.

Sounds like he'll make the team as a gunner/special teams guy at least. Simmons had lost a couple of his vets & they've done pretty well drafting DBs.

Right, it should create some competition if he can participate in camp but that sounded uncertain.

Congrats Sparky. Jason, thank you for adding a fun wrinkle to draft weekend once again this year...always look forward to it.

You're damn right we did 😎

Thanks Jason! I like Cricket's idea of donating the item to a youngster. If you know someone like that, give them a treat. If not, I know a 4 year old whose father is a Browns fan and who should be led back to the path of righteousness.

You’re welcome. And thank you.

Cosign on all above...love this idea!

A frog.

Yeah - so sick of him.