BlackBengal Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 A guy on KFFL.com does a thing every year where he goes through all of the FA signings in the previous season and predicts the compensatroy picks about a month before the NFL officially releases them. He is pretty accurate. Anyway he predicts that the Bengals will recieve 3rd and a 6th round comp picks in this years draft. Basically, we get a 3rd round pick for Justin Smith and a 6th round pick for Landon Johnson. The Antwan Odom signing cancelled out the loss of Madieu Williams because they recieved similar sized contracts. We would have recieved a 4th round pick for Madieu if we didnt sign Odom. You can read his post here: [url="http://forums.kffl.com/showthread.php?t=247418"]http://forums.kffl.com/showthread.php?t=247418[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 if true, sweet. I would have been happy with just the 3rd I expected us to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsdave985 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 We could actually also get a 7th if Stepanovich qualifies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I'll take 'em ! We should find out what we really get here in a couple more weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 yea, wanna say March 27th for the official announcement? I know its late March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 [quote name='Bengals1181' post='755168' date='Mar 11 2009, 07:52 AM']yea, wanna say March 27th for the official announcement? I know its late March.[/quote] As far as I know, no actual date has been announced. Just late March is all I have heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 They will be announced during the annual meeting. I predict March 23rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 These would all be at the end of a particular round, correct? If so, what is the normal order of the ones receiving picks (e.g. Pissburgh, Cincinnati, etc.)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I've read this guy's projections the past few years and he's got a pretty decent track record. He's had some misses (Patrick Kearney comes to mind) but he's been very accurate as far as the Bengals have been concerned. I'd feel better if he didn't hedge himself with the 3rd round compensatory pick possibly being a 4th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 [quote name='Le Tigre' post='755178' date='Mar 11 2009, 09:22 AM']These would all be at the end of a particular round, correct? If so, what is the normal order of the ones receiving picks (e.g. Pissburgh, Cincinnati, etc.)?[/quote] It's in Adam's KFFL post, but the order for the comp picks is the value of the players lost so Faneca comes ahead of Smith. I've been following his projections for several years and Adam does a great job of deducing the secret formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 [quote name='Jason' post='755177' date='Mar 11 2009, 08:20 AM']They will be announced during the annual meeting. I predict March 23rd.[/quote] March 23rd is a good prediction. March 22–25 NFL Annual Owners Meeting, Dana Point, CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredtoast Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I think the Landon Johnson pick will onlt be a 7th rounder. He got a good contract ($10+ million), but he didn't play very much. And I don't see any way we don't get a third for Justin based on his contract and level of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Looks like we might get a 7 too, or maybe two seven's instead of the 6. [quote]Here are the projected picks for 2009, along with the compensatory player, their average contract value, their games played, their games started and other notes (I’ve also noted the nine picks that fall near a cutoff point and could end up in a different round) – THIRD ROUND New England (Asante Samuel, $9.3567 million per season, 15 GP/15 GS, Pro Bowl) Pittsburgh (Alan Faneca, $7.8 million, 16/16, Pro Bowl) [b]Cincinnati [/b](Justin Smith, $7 million, 16/16) – possibly a fourth-round pick FOURTH ROUND Chicago (Bernard Berrian, $6.9 million, 16/13) – possibly a third-round pick N.Y. Giants (Gibril Wilson, $6.5008 million, 16/15) – possibly a third-round pick San Diego (Michael Turner, $5.75 million, 16/16, Pro Bowl) – possibly a third-round pick San Diego (Drayton Florence, $5.9333 million, 15/8) Tennessee (Antwan Odom, $5.9 million, 12/8) Indianapolis (Jake Scott, $4.8 million, 16/16) – possibly a fifth-round pick FIFTH ROUND San Francisco (Kwame Harris, $4.6667 million, 14/11) New England (Donte Stallworth, $4.5393 million, 11/7) Dallas (Jacques Reeves, $4 million, 16/16) – possibly a sixth-round pick Tennessee (Travis LaBoy, $4.4 million, 13/12) – possibly a sixth-round pick SIXTH ROUND Tennessee (Randy Starks, $3.885 million, 16/4) New England (Randall Gay, $3.3125 million, 14/13) Dallas (Julius Jones, $2.9 million, 15/10) [b]Cincinnati [/b](Landon Johnson, $2.733 million, 15/0) – possibly a seventh-round pick San Francisco (Marques Douglas, $2.525 million, 16/0) – possibly a seventh-round pick SEVENTH ROUND Tennessee (Ben Hartsock, $2.25 million, 11/11) Washington (Mark Brunell, $1.755 million, 2/0) Seattle (Chuck Darby, $1.467 million, 15/15) Seattle (Ellis Wyms, $1.4 million, 16/0) Chicago (John Gilmore, $1.333 million, 16/10) Seattle (Kevin Bentley, $1.3 million, 16/7) Chicago (Brendon Ayanbadejo, $1.223 million, 16/0, Pro Bowl) [b]Cincinnati [/b](Bryan Robinson, $1.2125 million, 16/15) Seattle (D.J. Hackett, $1.2 million, 9/2) Jacksonville (Terry Cousin, $1.115 million, 16/0) Detroit (net-value comp pick, lost three for $10.721 million, 38/22; signed three for $7.134 million, 42/31) Arizona (net-value comp pick, lost three for $9.45 million, 46/42; signed three for $6.9625 million, 40/27) Detroit (non-compensatory pick) Kansas City (non-compensatory pick)[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Man an extra 3rd would be really nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrlnutz Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 [quote name='akiliMVP' post='755369' date='Mar 11 2009, 07:56 PM']Man an extra 3rd would be really nice[/quote] So would an extra 1st. Could add a lot of talent to both sides of the ball with that many picks in the first 3 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 [quote name='Squirrlnutz' post='755381' date='Mar 11 2009, 08:17 PM']So would an extra 1st. Could add a lot of talent to both sides of the ball with that many picks in the first 3 rounds.[/quote] How about a compensatory third-rounder AND a first-rounder/early second-rounder obtained by trading Chad? Five picks in the top 100 would be really, really nice. We could fill most of our needs with just those picks (OT, C, RB, LB/DE, CB). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 No way in hell they get a third for Bustin Smith.... fourth round and feel lucky they got that plus the fact his ass isnt here anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 [quote name='claptonrocks' post='755410' date='Mar 11 2009, 10:29 PM']No way in hell they get a third for Bustin Smith.... fourth round and feel lucky they got that plus the fact his ass isnt here anymore.[/quote] do you understand how the formula works? Simply thinking Justin was a bust doesn't factor into the formula. In fact, nothing he did as a Bengal is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 [quote name='Bengals1181' post='755412' date='Mar 11 2009, 10:36 PM']do you understand how the formula works? Simply thinking Justin was a bust doesn't factor into the formula. In fact, nothing he did as a Bengal is important.[/quote] based on contract, playing time, post season awards and how much a team loses and gains in free agency...theyre very secretive about it.. But you wouild know all about it wouldnt you now???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 It's pretty hard to figure all this stuff out, but it seems to be based about 90% on contract. Michael Turner will be an interesting one to watch, because his contract was only decent but he had by far the best year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 [quote name='claptonrocks' post='755413' date='Mar 11 2009, 10:41 PM']based on contract, playing time, post season awards and how much a team loses and gains in free agency...theyre very secretive about it.. But you wouild know all about it wouldnt you now???? [/quote] right, so when someone who does this on a yearly basis and has a pretty damn good track record at it say's we'll get a 3rd, what compels you to say "they're's no way in hell we're getting one"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 [quote][b]March 23:[/b] During the Monday afternoon session of the meetings, the NFL usually releases the compensatory draft picks. With the Bengals having a net loss of five players in 2008 unrestricted free agency (Justin Smith, Madieu Williams, Landon Johnson, Bryan Robinson and Alex Stepanovich) on top of signing Antwan Odom, the Bengals could get as many as the maximum of four. Best-case scenario? A third-rounder, sixth-rounder and two seventh-rounders. Worst case? A fourth and a seventh. It all depends on a byzantine formula that takes into consideration playing time, pay and postseason awards. Because Smith signed such a big deal, all indications are the Bengals will get a third-rounder for him. It would be a bit fitting they would get a compensatory for Johnson even if it is just a sixth. The Bengals took him with the extra third-rounder (No. 96 in 2004) they got for losing Takeo Spikes in 2003.[/quote] [url="http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=7561"]http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=7561[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 4 comp picks? If they think they could get that many, then they shouldn't be signing anymore FAs. That would be 11 new faces fighting for roster spots and if they trade Chad it could be up to 13. No way to do I go for FA role players like FB with that many picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 [quote name='scharm' post='756536' date='Mar 17 2009, 10:48 AM']4 comp picks? If they think they could get that many, then they shouldn't be signing anymore FAs. That would be 11 new faces fighting for roster spots and if they trade Chad it could be up to 13. No way to do I go for FA role players like FB with that many picks.[/quote] I think you can sign a FB with a low cap value and always cut him in camp if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigfox09 Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 [quote name='Inigo Montoya' post='755393' date='Mar 11 2009, 11:27 PM']How about a compensatory third-rounder AND a first-rounder/early second-rounder obtained by trading Chad? Five picks in the top 100 would be really, really nice. We could fill most of our needs with just those picks (OT, C, RB, LB/DE, CB).[/quote] Draft picks dont necessarily mean that a whole will be filled. Really outside of your first round pick you cant really count on a guy to step in and start. With that being said this season I think we will have two rookies starting on our O-line, which is a big concern, but should go along way to building a solid O-line for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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