membengal Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Tell you all what, I think Cincy fans take this shit more seriously than other fanbases. From living in Baltimore, ravens fans and org are collectively pretending the rice thing didn't happen. Frankly, I wish we bengals fans did the same. They just seem so much happier not focusing on such things, whereas we all circle jerk to shit like pacman from last offseason endlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Tell you all what, I think Cincy fans take this shit more seriously than other fanbases. From living in Baltimore, ravens fans and org are collectively pretending the rice thing didn't happen. Frankly, I wish we bengals fans did the same. They just seem so much happier not focusing on such things, whereas we all circle jerk to shit like pacman from last offseason endlessly. Well if Roger tosses Rice off of the team for life, they might take this more seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmanMunster Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Well if Roger tosses Rice off of the team for life, they might take this more seriously. why? they'd probably be better off with his cap hit gone and his carries eliminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearcat7777 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Shame. Once the cops are called in a domestic case someone has to be arrested. Since the wife called the cops Artrell was going to be arrested whether he did anything or not. So wait for the facts to come out before judging someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalBengalEd Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Shame. Once the cops are called in a domestic case someone has to be arrested. Since the wife called the cops Artrell was going to be arrested whether he did anything or not. So wait for the facts to come out before judging someone. That's not how it works. The police investigate the incident and see if there was an actual crime that occurred. If there is enough evidence that a crime occurred they then arrest the aggressor of the two. Females get arrested as many times as males in domestic violence cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 That's not how it works. The police investigate the incident and see if there was an actual crime that occurred. If there is enough evidence that a crime occurred they then arrest the aggressor of the two. Females get arrested as many times as males in domestic violence cases. Furthermore, if there is no proof of any physical act or any other witnesses, these things typically don't move forward. There always has to be some type of evidence or warrant to arrest someone LEGALLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 why? they'd probably be better off with his cap hit gone and his carries eliminated. Stupid post. Rice was hurt for a good part of the year and never had any kind of oline to speak of, he's still a good back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Stupid post. Rice was hurt for a good part of the year and never had any kind of oline to speak of, he's still a good back. He might be done, but the team won't assume so without proof. And it would cost them extra money to cut him over keeping him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 That's not how it works. The police investigate the incident and see if there was an actual crime that occurred. If there is enough evidence that a crime occurred they then arrest the aggressor of the two. Females get arrested as many times as males in domestic violence cases. Having worked with domestic cases almost every single day / week for about 7 years, I would say it is off-base. I need to pre-face this by stating this occurred on a military installation. By and large, with very few exceptions, the male was arrested / removed from the house. Even with overwhelming evidence to suggest otherwise. Having also talked with civilian enforcement, there is still a majority of males who do this and not usually the women. https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/usermanuals/domesticviolence/domesticviolencec.cfm An estimated 85 to 90 percent of domestic violence victims are female. Rennison, C. M., & Welchans, S. (2000). Intimate partner violence. (Special Report NCJ 178247). Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Justice; Tjaden, P., & Thoennes, N. (2000). Extent, nature and consequences of intimate partner violence: Findings from the National Violence Against Women Survey. (NCJ 181867). Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Justice; Rennison C. M. (2001). Intimate partner violence and age of victim, 1999. (Special Report NCJ 187635). Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmanMunster Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Stupid post. Rice was hurt for a good part of the year and never had any kind of oline to speak of, he's still a good back. he was healthy to start the year, blew balls, then got hurt and sucked after. he was horrendous when he started healthy. he has a big cap hit and his backup can provide what he provides at this point. I love Ray Rice, but he's on the major downside of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 he was healthy to start the year, blew balls, then got hurt and sucked after. he was horrendous when he started healthy. he has a big cap hit and his backup can provide what he provides at this point. I love Ray Rice, but he's on the major downside of his career. nothing about this post is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 he was healthy to start the year, blew balls, then got hurt and sucked after. he was horrendous when he started healthy. he has a big cap hit and his backup can provide what he provides at this point. I love Ray Rice, but he's on the major downside of his career. Mike & mike said the cap hit comes if he's released. The way his contract is worded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Mike & mike said the cap hit comes if he's released. The way his contract is worded. There is ZERO reason to release him other than public pressure. They will definitely pray that if he did knock her out (and police say they do have THAT video) Roger will step in and lower the boom. The Falcons took a $7 mil cap hit when they released Vick instead of letting it go thru the process. Its a tough call for them. There will be a lot of pressure to release him if this thing has legs and until Roger does something (I have to think this is a suspension regardless if it was a first offense) they will have to pay him. Glad its them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 There is ZERO reason to release him other than public pressure. They will definitely pray that if he did knock her out (and police say they do have THAT video) Roger will step in and lower the boom. The Falcons took a $7 mil cap hit when they released Vick instead of letting it go thru the process. Its a tough call for them. There will be a lot of pressure to release him if this thing has legs and until Roger does something (I have to think this is a suspension regardless if it was a first offense) they will have to pay him. Glad its them. Not sure about zero reason comment. Ravens claimed the reason he didnt play much vs us. Is he flat out refused to pick up the blitzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Not sure about zero reason comment. Ravens claimed the reason he didnt play much vs us. Is he flat out refused to pick up the blitzer Yeah I was commenting purely from an infraction perspective. If they guy won't do what he is told to, particularly something as pedestrian as picking up a blitzer (all RBs are expected to do this when necessary) its an entirely different discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Yeah I was commenting purely from a infraction perspective. If they guy won't do what he is told to, particularly something as pedestrian as picking up a blitzer (all RBs are expected to do this when necessary) its an entirely different discussion. Well, barring a timely suspension, the Ravens will either take a big hit this year or a lesser one now and a huge one next year, like 9 million, if they cut him. This might make the standard counselling track more tolerable even if he doesn't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Well, barring a timely suspension, the Ravens will either take a big hit this year or a lesser one now and a huge one next year, like 9 million, if they cut him. This might make the standard counselling track more tolerable even if he doesn't play. Obviously, the big difference is Cap money isn't real. Furthermore, paying him REAL money still counts for the some of that Cap figure. These owners are rich but not stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Obviously, the big difference is Cap money isn't real. Furthermore, paying him REAL money still counts for the some of that Cap figure. These owners are rich but not stupid. It's kind of real, in that they might have to cut other players in order to stay under the cap, or not improve the team as much as they could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Artrell Hawkins Jr. @artrellhawkins 2h Not Guilty!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Tell you all what, I think Cincy fans take this shit more seriously than other fanbases. From living in Baltimore, ravens fans and org are collectively pretending the rice thing didn't happen. Frankly, I wish we bengals fans did the same. They just seem so much happier not focusing on such things, whereas we all circle jerk to shit like pacman from last offseason endlessly. I don't know that it applies to Rice specifically, but in general I'm proud of the fact that the Bengals & the fans care about not having a team full of rancid dickbags. Also, like Oldcat mentioned, they'd probably care a lot more if their team had been the designated whipping boy for Goodell's egomaniacal "Conduct Policy" wankfest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Artrell Hawkins Jr. @artrellhawkins 2h Not Guilty!!! Cool. Not much info out there other than just that...not guilty. http://www.fox19.com/story/25214921/judge-rules-former-nfl-player-artrell-hawkins-not-guilty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwing Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 But will he work again? I hope so, he seemed to be doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 "Bitch slashed her own tires, your honor" :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble In the Jungle Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I'm glad. I like him a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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