ThurmanMunster Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I don't see them signing both MJ and Fairley but I'd be down for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatPurdue Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I bet I've refreshed this page 100 times in the last hour. I'm super productive at work right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hopeful Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I don't see them signing both MJ and Fairley but I'd be down for it. I thought that they could but some media types think it is too much $$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 MJ93 knows our system. I can only see him coming back to us or going to play for Zimmer Anyway, if we don't sign Fairley I think we get Sheard and MJ93.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Well hadnt clicked on the MJ thread, before my last post. So if we Sign MJ and NF, I'd assume they go elsewhere in the draft. regardless I think we go OT in 1 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 regardless I think we go OT in 1 anyway. Hopefully L'el Collins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Our first picks in the last three years were basically all taken at positions with an established starter in front of them, and spent most of that season in a backup capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Hopefully L'el Collins... Or Clemmings who might have more upside at LT. But I'll take either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Hopefully L'el Collins... Which side of the bench do you see him sitting on next year? Personally I see him as a right side of the bench kind of guy but I know some think he could step right in and sit on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Or Clemmings who might have more upside at LT. But I'll take either. Pat Kirwan said on Sirius NFL Radio the other day that Collins is by far and away the better of the two at this point but he thinks Clemmings will go in the 1st round because he has got potential .. I would rather have Collins at this point but if he's not there Clemmings is not a bad second choice.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I bet I've refreshed this page 100 times in the last hour. I'm super productive at work right now. good thing I don't have to pay Twitter for refreshes today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalBengalEd Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Oh cool . I'm not the only one refreshing thus page every minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Fair enough, but with no other visits set up and no other teams actively publicly courting him before the tweets today, it just seems unlikely to me that you would go on the 2nd day of free agency to a place you least want to play for. 2 weeks from now if you have nothing in the range you want, then maybe that makes sense. if everything is at face value, i would agree.. but fairley isnt Suh, he isnt Murray, he isnt a prime inside scoop kinda guy that the media is clamouring for, especailly with the graham, revis, foles, etc things going down, plus the retirements... the media only has so many stories to care about and probe... so i am assuming he has 3-5 teams interested... and more than one visit set up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Which side of the bench do you see him sitting on next year? Personally I see him as a right side of the bench kind of guy but I know some think he could step right in and sit on the left. My argument for Collins took a major hit the moment we re-signed Boling. I still think he'd be an instant upgrade, but it doesn't make as much sense if we're looking for instant impact. BTW, Hair, have you ever head of the Waldo forumla? Some guy through it together a few years ago and it's proven staggering accuate at predicting edge rusher success. He evaluates risk level, and the two least risk categories are divided into guys who score high in "twitch" or "explosion" Dupree hasn't tested in the drills that make him elible for twitch, but he's got the highest explosion number ever. I just wished I saw more on tape with him. The other guys who are lowest risk this year (in order)? EXPLOSION Owa Davis Hull Frank Clark AGILITY Vic Beasley Gregory This guy's formula basically predicted Justin Houston, etc. http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=439601 Here's the breakdown someone did for this year: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NR_IK6Qum7uIKX2PaXihE76FXy7VkEgsjUaShTfBIK8/edit?pli=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Tigers Johnson| Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Which side of the bench do you see him sitting on next year? Personally I see him as a right side of the bench kind of guy but I know some think he could step right in and sit on the left. Sometimes you are a pain in the ass and sometimes you physically make me laugh out loud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 My argument for Collins took a major hit the moment we re-signed Boling. Yes it did, although to perfectly fair the only scenario I could fathom where the Bengals were to take an OL early in the draft was based upon losing Boling, either by choice or if he left in FA. As mentioned before I'm not a big Boling fan and I too had some hope that the Bengals would look to upgrade his spot, but it always felt like bringing him back was the smarter play. Bengals to-do list was long enough. BTW, Hair, have you ever head of the Waldo forumla? No, I've never seen that before. I'm not sure I understand the formula very well but at first glance let me say in my best Mike Mayoch voice..."I may need to go back and watch more tape on Frank Clark." BTW, I wish that 2015 spreadsheet was more complete and had fewer errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 No, I've never seen that before. I'm not sure I understand the formula very well but at first glance let me say in my best Mike Mayoch voice..."I may need to go back and watch more tape on Frank Clark." BTW, I wish that 2015 spreadsheet was more complete and had fewer errors. I've actually been working on fixing it haha. Randy Gregory immediately jumped out as big time twitch guy, for instance. I can't guarantee that I'm catching some of the internal spreadsheet forumal errors... There's also the issue of apples to pears comparison by using guys pro day numbers... But, for interest, I plugged our last three DEs in: Michael Johnson is mid-low risk because he registers with a 1.1 on twitch and a 1.0 for explosion. Hunt and Clarke are both High Risk, which is pretty damning when you look at the success rate for guys on his historical list for High Risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 What's also notable is that his low risk list under explosion only has a single solitary player who wasn't a double digit sack guy: Dontay Moch! That's pretty damned accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Coley Harvey @ColeyHarvey 2m2 minutes ago Since I keep getting the same question, here's my answer ... No, I can't see #Bengals signing both Michael Johnson and Nick Fairley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalBengalEd Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I heard he left . Fuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatPurdue Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FulcherVulcher33 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Gonna fuck around and not sign either one watch fairly will go to rams and johnson to the Vikings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hopeful Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I don't understand why we feel the need to go after MJ when we drafted Hunt and Clarke. I get it that they haven't stepped up yet but I would expect them to this year. This is just stupid. How can you not sign both MJ and Fairley. I like Peko so I am not for cutting him but I am for cutting/restructuring Hall and then you get both. Why is this so hard?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hopeful Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 So far we have signed Hawk and our guys and that's it and it already feels like we are out of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I heard he left . Fuk From where did you hear that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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