membengal Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 6 minutes ago, spicoli said: but plays nowhere near as big. Ok? How do we know that, exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 5 hours ago, membengal said: Ok? How do we know that, exactly? watch the tape? Hill will run through people when he needs to, you’ll never see Waddle do that. Not saying he can’t be dynamic in the NFL but if you're gonna spend a top 10 pick on a little WR there’s a certain criteria that he has to meet IMO. Playing bigger than his size is at or near the top of that list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 4 hours ago, membengal said: He's bigger than 'Reke. Also, another take on Chase - this comp is fun... If he does that wearing a Bengals uniform, they’ll call him for holding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 On 2/20/2021 at 1:04 PM, Cricket said: Then sign him to a long-term deal. Franchise tag is a short-term “solution”. Unless things have changed, a second year of being franchised comes with AT LEAST a twenty percent increase in pay. A third year of being franchised is at the average pay of the top five contracts in the league, REGARDLESS OF POSITION, but must be at least another twenty percent increase. It may cost a few million more this season to use the franchise tag but the team would avoid having a large bonus paid up front. I assume a lot of teams will not want to do this given the state of cash flow, or lack there of, from no ticket sales, etc. But edge rushers are far harder to come by the corners (comparing to WJ III), so Lawson needs to be the top priority and he needs to be retained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 On 2/23/2021 at 1:10 PM, membengal said: Daniel Jermiah's latest top 50... https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-s-top-50-2021-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-2-0 Of note for many of our discussions in here: Chase 2 Pitts 3 Waddle 6 Slater 7 Smith8 Sewell 9 This is a guy just trying to be different. That board would be laughed at by 31 of 32 NFL GMs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 1 hour ago, SF2 said: That board would be laughed at by 31 of 32 NFL GMs. What do you think he got wrong? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 3 hours ago, spicoli said: What do you think he got wrong? Just curious. Its just off by most analysts.. I dont put Anthing into Ducky Brooks or Danny Boy Jehovah comments or predictions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 My new approach when I run a mock- won't entertain a trade offer that moves the Bengals back further than 10th in first round (should be one of Chase, Sewell, Waddle, Pitts, or Smith available at 10 - after that less certain I can get one of them). My latest pff mock yielded the usual trade-back with Denver at 9, trading 5 for 9, 40, and 71 and brought this result: First round Pick 9 overall, Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU Second round Pick 38 overall, Gregory Rousseau, Edge, UMiami Second round Pick 40 overall, Sam Cosmi, T, Texas Third round pick 69 overall, Aaron Robinson, CB, UCF Third round pick 71 overall, Marvin Wilson, IDL, Florida State Fourth round pick 111 overall, Quinn Meinerz, IOL, Wisc Whitewater Fifth round pick 150 overall, Jaylan Twyman, Edge/IDL, Pitt Sixth round pick 192 overall, Tommy Kraemer, IOL, Notre Dame Seventh round pick 231 overall, Marquez Stevenson, WR, Houston Seventh round pick 233 overall, JaCoby Stevens, S, LSU Done and done. Prob my favorite mock yet. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 2 hours ago, claptonrocks said: Its just off by most analysts.. I dont put Anthing into Ducky Brooks or Danny Boy Jehovah comments or predictions... Oh you're just mad because he doesn't like Sewell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 18 minutes ago, spicoli said: Oh you're just mad because he doesn't like Sewell I never get mad especially idiots.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 29 minutes ago, membengal said: My new approach when I run a mock- won't entertain a trade offer that moves the Bengals back further than 10th in first round (should be one of Chase, Sewell, Waddle, Pitts, or Smith available at 10 - after that less certain I can get one of them). My latest pff mock yielded the usual trade-back with Denver at 9, trading 5 for 9, 40, and 71 and brought this result: First round Pick 9 overall, Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU Second round Pick 38 overall, Gregory Rousseau, Edge, UMiami Second round Pick 40 overall, Sam Cosmi, T, Texas Third round pick 69 overall, Aaron Robinson, CB, UCF Third round pick 71 overall, Marvin Wilson, IDL, Florida State Fourth round pick 111 overall, Quinn Meinerz, IOL, Wisc Whitewater Fifth round pick 150 overall, Jaylan Twyman, Edge/IDL, Pitt Sixth round pick 192 overall, Tommy Kraemer, IOL, Notre Dame Seventh round pick 231 overall, Marquez Stevenson, WR, Houston Seventh round pick 233 overall, JaCoby Stevens, S, LSU Done and done. Prob my favorite mock yet. You really think Chase will be there at 9?? Hell your on his bandwagon so why would you put him at 9?? You know Rousseau wont be at 38 with everyone wanting pass rushers.. Know nothing of Roibinson.. Rest looks good.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 This time he was. One of chase, Sewell, smith, waddle or pitts will be. In this mock Sewell, smith, and pitts were gone along with four qbs. A cb went and I had chase or waddle. It’s a mock. I played the hand I was dealt. And someone on the defensive line will fall. Might be Rousseau. Might be barrmore. Took what fell to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 6 hours ago, spicoli said: What do you think he got wrong? Just curious. The 3 wide receivers in the top 10 for a start. It is by far the most overrated position in football. 6 WRs were drafted in the first round last year, none of their teams went to the playoffs. The best receivers in the 2019 draft were drafted round 2 plus. Trying to get cute with the QB choices (other than Lawrence) is another issue. Hell, Kiper is now talking Mack Jones to Panthers at 8 or 9? LOL, these guys are just talking to hear their own voice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 4 minutes ago, membengal said: This time he was. One of chase, Sewell, smith, waddle or pitts will be. In this mock Sewell, smith, and pitts were gone along with four qbs. A cb went and I had chase or waddle. It’s a mock. I played the hand I was dealt. And someone on the defensive line will fall. Might be Rousseau. Might be barrmore. Took what fell to me. Good job...interestng and who knows how it will play out really.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 29 minutes ago, SF2 said: The 3 wide receivers in the top 10 for a start. It is by far the most overrated position in football. 6 WRs were drafted in the first round last year, none of their teams went to the playoffs. The best receivers in the 2019 draft were drafted round 2 plus. Trying to get cute with the QB choices (other than Lawrence) is another issue. Hell, Kiper is now talking Mack Jones to Panthers at 8 or 9? LOL, these guys are just talking to hear their own voice. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 Matt Miller has updated his top 50 after a chance to spend more time with film. Here's his top 10: 1. QB Trevor Lawrence, Clemson Previous Rank: 1 Details: QB1 — 6'5 5/8"— 213 lbs NFL Comparison: Andrew Luck 2. WR Ja'Marr Chase, LSU Previous Rank: 5 Details: WR1—6'0 1/4"—208 NFL Comparison: Michael Thomas (but faster) 3. TE Kyle Pitts, Florida Previous Rank: 6 Details: TE1—6'5 1/4"—246 NFL Comparison: Mike Evans + Darren Waller 4. OT Penei Sewell, Oregon Previous Rank: 2 Details: OT1—6'5 1/8"—330 NFL Comparison: Jason Peters 5. QB Justin Fields, Ohio State Previous Rank: 9 Details: QB2—6'2 5/8"—228 NFL Comparison: Dak Prescott 6. LB Micah Parsons, Penn State Previous Rank: 8 Details: LB1—6'2 1/8"—245 NFL Comparison: Jaylon Smith 7. OT Rashawn Slater, Northwestern Previous Rank: 3 Details: OT2—6'2 5/8"—314 NFL Comparison: Joe Staley 8. QB Zach Wilson, BYU Previous Rank: 11 Details: QB3—6'2 3/8"—210 NFL Comparison: Kyler Murray 9. WR DeVonta Smith, Alabama Previous Rank: 4 Details: WR2—6'0 5/8"—175 NFL Comparison: Reggie Wayne 10. WR Jaylen Waddle, Alabama Previous Rank: 7 Details: WR3—5'9 3/4"—182 NFL Comparison: Tyreek Hill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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membengal Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 Quote According to Dr. Matt Rhea, Alabama’s Director of Performance Science, Landon Dickerson showed impressive athleticism working split squats while moving his knee. The 6-foot-6, 325-pounder displayed explosiveness in his movements, and he has strongly attacked every process of his rehab. He will have an opportunity on March 23 to turn in a marquee performance at his pro day at Alabama. https://tdalabamamag.com/2021/02/25/...recovery-knee/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 11 hours ago, membengal said: 6. LB Micah Parsons, Penn State Previous Rank: 8 Details: LB1—6'2 1/8"—245 NFL Comparison: Jaylon Smith Man if I thought the Bengals valued LB enough to take one top 5, I'd be all about taking Parsons if they could fix that OL in FA. They're in dire need of difference makers on that defense and frankly that kid checks a lot of boxes. Tone-setter, coverage, pass rusher...he's the total package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundstreamer Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 2 hours ago, spicoli said: Man if I thought the Bengals valued LB enough to take one top 5, I'd be all about taking Parsons if they could fix that OL in FA. They're in dire need of difference makers on that defense and frankly that kid checks a lot of boxes. Tone-setter, coverage, pass rusher...he's the total package. Outside of Sewell this is the guy I keep thinking about as well but I just don't know if he would be put in a position to succeed with the Bengals. He seems like a great pass rusher which they need and can cover some as well. If he is what the draft reviews say he could be a game changer that the defense really needs. After Oline a great defensive player is much more valuable than a WR or TE for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 2 hours ago, spicoli said: Man if I thought the Bengals valued LB enough to take one top 5, I'd be all about taking Parsons if they could fix that OL in FA. They're in dire need of difference makers on that defense and frankly that kid checks a lot of boxes. Tone-setter, coverage, pass rusher...he's the total package. Love to have him but they may feel they have a young group that they can feel ok with this coming year.. Pratt needs to learn to wrap and roll on tackles. Wilson got enough snaps to know ehere his weaknesses were.. Davis-Gaither really improved in all areas the final 5 weeks.. We have to acquire olinemen that are good at pass protection first but can help in run blocking. JBs knees will allways come first in protection.. Pollack is a teacher in technique which should benefit all of them after Turners stay.. You want a playoff team? Build the Oline to be respectable.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 10 minutes ago, soundstreamer said: I just don't know if he would be put in a position to succeed with the Bengals. Could say that about anyone though, can't you? Kind of have to assume they will make the most of whatever talent is available, else they may as well just stuff all the jerseys with straw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundstreamer Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 13 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Could say that about anyone though, can't you? Kind of have to assume they will make the most of whatever talent is available, else they may as well just stuff all the jerseys with straw. I agree with that. But I was saying that based on their recent inability to develop a LB into a quality NFL player. Plus I don't have much faith in Golden. Parsons on paper seems like exactly what the defense needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 10 hours ago, claptonrocks said: You want a playoff team? Build the Oline to be respectable.. You don't have to draft Penei Sewell to accomplish that though. They can take Parson or Chase or Pitts and STILL fix the OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 12 hours ago, claptonrocks said: Love to have him but they may feel they have a young group that they can feel ok with this coming year.. Pratt needs to learn to wrap and roll on tackles. Wilson got enough snaps to know ehere his weaknesses were.. Davis-Gaither really improved in all areas the final 5 weeks.. We have to acquire olinemen that are good at pass protection first but can help in run blocking. JBs knees will allways come first in protection.. Pollack is a teacher in technique which should benefit all of them after Turners stay.. You want a playoff team? Build the Oline to be respectable.. Yep. There is like Chase blindness going on or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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