|High School Harry| Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 On 3/11/2023 at 1:47 PM, sparky151 said: This is a good TE draft. Bengals should at least re-sign Hurst. We can and should upgrade from Sample and Wilcox. In the mock offseason, We re-signed Hurst for about 8 mil per, later added Robert Tonyan for about 4.5 and later added Mycole Pruitt as the blocker for about 2 mil. We also ended up re-signing Sample and Wilcox to take to camp for minimum salaries. There were lots of vet TEs available who were cheap and upgrades from Sample and Wilcox before getting to the rookie class. I like Sample but think our best thing might be to let him walk and hopefully getting a comp pick next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 Players have to sign for a significant price to earn a comp pick. There's a limit of 32 comp picks per year (for losing players). Sample won't be signing one of the top 32 or so contracts in the league this offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted March 14 Author Report Share Posted March 14 If Hurst goes. I would pay Jordan Akins to be the starter and pair him with a Rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted Wednesday at 01:50 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 01:50 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted Wednesday at 01:55 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 01:55 PM 5 minutes ago, spicoli said: Wonder what the numbers were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted Wednesday at 01:57 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 01:57 PM Just now, Jamie_B said: Wonder what the numbers were. Don’t know but there’s no way the Bengals were giving him a 3 year deal. Nor should they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted Wednesday at 01:59 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 01:59 PM 1 minute ago, spicoli said: Don’t know but there’s no way the Bengals were giving him a 3 year deal. Nor should they have. What is Hurst 27? I'd be on the fence about 3 years for him depending on the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Posted Wednesday at 02:01 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:01 PM 2 minutes ago, spicoli said: Don’t know but there’s no way the Bengals were giving him a 3 year deal. Nor should they have. Why not? They would only have guaranteed the first year anyway. But of course that is why Hurst's agent would have declined it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted Wednesday at 02:03 PM Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:03 PM 4 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: What is Hurst 27? I'd be on the fence about 3 years for him depending on the money. He will be 30 this year. Played baseball first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted Wednesday at 02:04 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:04 PM Just now, MichaelWeston said: He will be 30 this year. Played baseball first. Oh yeah no chance we should give him 3 years at that age. Good for him for getting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted Wednesday at 02:05 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:05 PM I would look to Mike Gesicki to give him a deal like Hurst got with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted Wednesday at 02:18 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:18 PM 15 minutes ago, dex said: Why not? He’ll be 33 at the end of the deal. That’s just not the Bengals mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HavePityPlease Posted Wednesday at 02:41 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:41 PM 35 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: I would look to Mike Gesicki to give him a deal like Hurst got with us. Gesicki has been one of the worst blocking TEs in the league. Last year the Dolphins tried to make him into one, I'm not sure how that turned out but I'd be pretty nervous if they brought that guy in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted Wednesday at 02:46 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:46 PM 2 minutes ago, HavePityPlease said: Gesicki has been one of the worst blocking TEs in the league. Last year the Dolphins tried to make him into one, I'm not sure how that turned out but I'd be pretty nervous if they brought that guy in. Hurst wasn't exactly a great blocker either. I'd be looking at Gesicki to fill a 1 year roll as a pass catcher while still looking at the draft, but I was on board for drafting a TE if we kept Hurst too. I'm thinking that getting a vet in that spot will not force us to have to take one early unless the value is there. But this is a deep TE class and we should be able to find a guy I'm guessing in the first 3 rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted Wednesday at 02:47 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:47 PM I'd also feel out a potential 1 year prove-it deal for Drew Sample to come back and block again. He is coming off an injury and should be pretty cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted Wednesday at 02:47 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:47 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HavePityPlease Posted Wednesday at 02:52 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:52 PM 3 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Hurst wasn't exactly a great blocker either. I'd be looking at Gesicki to fill a 1 year roll as a pass catcher while still looking at the draft, but I was on board for drafting a TE if we kept Hurst too. I'm thinking that getting a vet in that spot will not force us to have to take one early unless the value is there. But this is a deep TE class and we should be able to find a guy I'm guessing in the first 3 rounds. Well I didn't say 'not great" I said WORST. The only reason Gesicki climbed the charts (on PFF anyway) this season was because again, the Dolphins tried to squeeze it out of him. From the interviews I read it sounded like he wasn't too happy with it. I totally agree he's a great pass catcher, maybe in the top tier, but unfortunately we don't have the luxury of having unwilling blockers on our line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothD Posted Wednesday at 02:56 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:56 PM Loved Hurst attitude and physical toughness. However, this is the best TE class in recent memory. The Bengals will probably grab a decent one in the 3rd round. If I'm not mistaken, Hurst is from the Carolinas, so he will be closer to home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HavePityPlease Posted Wednesday at 02:57 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:57 PM 7 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: I hope this is at least partially true, but I'm in a "I'll believe it when I see it" stance on this at the moment. Hurst also said he wanted to stay here and that didn't pan out so, what are prospective FA's supposed to think about that? Do we want guys to come in here "just" for a salary bump elsewhere? That's a shitty way to run a team IMO. It also smells like old-school Mikey "Redemption Station" behaviour. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted Wednesday at 02:58 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:58 PM Just now, HavePityPlease said: I hope this is at least partially true, but I'm in a "I'll believe it when I see it" stance on this at the moment. Hurst also said he wanted to stay here and that didn't pan out so, what are prospective FA's supposed to think about that? Do we want guys to come in here "just" for a salary bump elsewhere? That's a shitty way to run a team IMO. It also smells like old-school Mikey "Redemption Station" behaviour. That's how the Eagles made the Superbowl last year, they had a number of 1-year deal guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted Wednesday at 03:00 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 03:00 PM I’m pretty sure that they’ve known all along that they were going to be drafting a TE early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted Wednesday at 03:05 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 03:05 PM 4 minutes ago, spicoli said: I’m pretty sure that they’ve known all along that they were going to be drafting a TE early. They tried to draft one last year, but the value wasn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HavePityPlease Posted Wednesday at 03:09 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 03:09 PM 9 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: That's how the Eagles made the Superbowl last year, they had a number of 1-year deal guys. Hey if we can sign a safety who has never done anything for $2M for one year and he has a Pro Bowl season, I'm all for it. Other than that I think you're going out on a limb here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted Wednesday at 03:11 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 03:11 PM 1 minute ago, HavePityPlease said: Hey if we can sign a safety who has never done anything for $2M for one year and he has a Pro Bowl season, I'm all for it. Other than that I think you're going out on a limb here. Or a DT that still plays at a pretty high end level and already has a ring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted Wednesday at 04:30 PM Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 04:30 PM I was sure Hurst was coming back so I didn't really expect to need to look at this top group. 1 of these guys MUST be signed because we can't rely on the draft for a starter. Starters 4 Hooper-Titans 29 68.8 74.6 24.2 46.7 525 2/59 41-444-2 Schultz-Cowboys 27 68.3 67.8 51.1 65.9 938 15/51 57-577-5 7 Moreau-Raiders 26 61.1 69.7 72 40.8 745 14/34 33-420-2 Gesicki-Dolphins 28 60.5 62.2 54.9 42.3 505 1/31 32-362-5 Tonyan-Pacs 29 57.7 60.5 35.3 46.3 591 3/18 53-470-2 Possible Starters 2 Akins-Texans 31 72.4 74.3 61.3 51.6 406 3/26 37-495-5 Walters-2017 Smith-Vikings 25 56.4 56.4 44.4 56.2 289 1/15 25-182-2 2 Howard-Texans 28 56.2 62.6 47.5 49.4 310 10/56 10-145-2 CC Brate-Bucs 32 53.2 54.4 79.1 51.1 374 1/33 20-174-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.